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sarna said:
Word is going round that Jim Shooter died. 73, he'd had throat cancer for a few years.

I feel like in the internet era he's been able to give a pretty good account of himself in the face of the criticism he'd gotten over the years. And it's hard to argue with the output from Marvel when he was the boss.
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He was so good for Marvel. Basically everything from the '80s is amazing. I think if he had continued he may have led to a bad path (since he basically kickstarted the gigantic crossover event stuff that Marvel became obsessed with), but what he oversaw while active was probably the best era Marvel ever had. RIP.
 
Nick Obre said:
The man managed to herd a bunch of "artistic" cats and actually got them to do the work.

I salute you, acne scar-man
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RIP to a real one.

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Nick Obre said:
The man managed to herd a bunch of "artistic" cats and actually got them to do the work.

I salute you, acne scar-man
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I would say that is mostly true. Those he couldn't wrangle (like Marv Wolfman, Len Wein, Gerry Conway) jumped to DC and John Byrne hated him so much that he went to reboot Superman and only returned to Marvel after Shooter was fired. That said. Shooter was a titan and someone made the industry stronger. He was also not afraid to be the boss when he needed to be and was able to make the hard decisions. The Dark Phoenix Saga wouldn't have had nearly as much impact if he mandated that Jean Grey die for annihilating that planet.

I was fortunate enough to meet him one year at the Calgary Expo where I told him that Karate Kid was my favorite Legionnaire. He told me that he created the character because he wanted a more physical character as most of the Legionnaires abilities only required them to point at an opponent from afar. Throughout our conversation he came across as a friendly and genuine person who loved the medium.

Oh, and my mom has a copy of his first published comic (Adventure Comics #346) and it's in pretty good condition despite my constant reading of it as a kid.
 
Jetpack Himmler said:
I would say that is mostly true. Those he couldn't wrangle (like Marv Wolfman, Len Wein, Gerry Conway) jumped to DC and John Byrne hated him so much that he went to reboot Superman and only returned to Marvel after Shooter was fired. That said. Shooter was a titan and someone made the industry stronger. He was also not afraid to be the boss when he needed to be and was able to make the hard decisions. The Dark Phoenix Saga wouldn't have had nearly as much impact if he mandated that Jean Grey die for annihilating that planet.

I was fortunate enough to meet him one year at the Calgary Expo where I told him that Karate Kid was my favorite Legionnaire. He told me that he created the character because he wanted a more physical character as most of the Legionnaires abilities only required them to point at an opponent from afar. Throughout our conversation he came across as a friendly and genuine person who loved the medium.

Oh, and my mom has a copy of his first published comic (Adventure Comics #346) and it's in pretty good condition despite my constant reading of it as a kid.
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Don't forget all the pettiness everyone else had for Shooter that they eventually sabotaged the New Universe project by having the premier character nuke Pittsburg (Shooter's hometown).
 
Old King Koaleamos said:
Don't forget all the pettiness everyone else had for Shooter that they eventually sabotaged the New Universe project by having the premier character nuke Pittsburg (Shooter's hometown).
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I believe that was also John Byrne. He also created the character Sunspot as a stand-in for Starbrand/Shooter for DC's Legends event whom he had Guy Gardner (of all people) utterly humiliate.

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I’ve been reading the 2000AD stuff with the Dark Judges and I love those four retards. “The Fall of Deadworld” is a good read, even independent of the greater Judge Dredd mythos, the art is good, the characters are good and the actual book is hardback and quality.
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Obviously Death is the star but I really like the two shorts that focused on Fire, he’s the “little brother” of the group and contrasts excellently with the utterly inhuman Fear and the mature and slow-paced Mortis. He’s evil Johnny Storm and the most human-like of the four, retroactively making his design, the most human-like of them all the more fitting.

Also, in Judge Death’s “Life and Death” collection, him going on a road trip to Vegas was a fever dream story, casually referencing “Natural Born Killers,” “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” and “Pale Rider,” at one point all on the same page. Fucking insane and awesome.
 
BetterFuckChuck said:



gail simone lost an argument about jk rowlng to some infamous autistic black terf and sent her fanbase to her. the replies are fucking glorious
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To her credit, in the vast collection of 'online feminist who blackmailed an industry into giving her a job,' Gail at least understands her industry. Her superhero comics are still comics, which is more than you can say about Mariko Tamaki or Zoe Quinn's comic efforts.

She's still s huge piece of shit, though.
 
BetterFuckChuck said:



gail simone lost an argument about jk rowlng to some infamous autistic black terf and sent her fanbase to her. the replies are fucking glorious
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I've heard the phrase "vomiting up hate" before, but I never really got it as a concept until I discovered BlueSky. There really is no other way to describe that place than people puking metaphorical bile with every keystroke. It just shoots out in a 360 spray and everyone gets hit with it in all directions. And just like puke, it triggers a chain reaction of similar reactions.
 
Stab You in the Back said:
To her credit, in the vast collection of 'online feminist who blackmailed an industry into giving her a job,' Gail at least understands her industry. Her superhero comics are still comics, which is more than you can say about Mariko Tamaki or Zoe Quinn's comic efforts.

She's still s huge piece of shit, though.
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Maybe up to the late 2000's. Her work in the last 15 years has been fucking trash.
 
I still think of when noted pussy Andy Richter posted verbatim "Yes, BlueSky is an echo chamber, and I LIKE IT" and you had all these BlueSky people agreeing with him. Its like a combination insane asylum for crazed progressives and a retirement home for people born in 1985. BlueSky is where mildly wonky George W. Bush-era progressives have gone to transform into batshit screeching 2020 DSA-cels.

The people who would go "Heh, just build your own website" when people complained about deplatforming that had an obvious bias went to their own even gayer version of Gab overnight.
 
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Commander X said:
I still think of when noted pussy Andy Richter posted verbatim "Yes, BlueSky is an echo chamber, and I LIKE IT" and you had all these BlueSky people agreeing with him. Its like a combination insane asylum for crazed progressives and a retirement home for people born in 1985. BlueSky is where mildly wonky George W. Bush-era progressives have gone to transform into batshit screeching 2020 DSA-cels.

The people who would go "Heh, just build your own website" when people complained about deplatforming that had an obvious bias went to their own even gayer version of Gab overnight.
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Actual facebook-tier brainrot
 
Commander X said:
I still think of when noted pussy Andy Richter posted verbatim "Yes, BlueSky is an echo chamber, and I LIKE IT" and you had all these BlueSky people agreeing with him. Its like a combination insane asylum for crazed progressives and a retirement home for people born in 1985. BlueSky is where mildly wonky George W. Bush-era progressives have gone to transform into batshit screeching 2020 DSA-cels.

The people who would go "Heh, just build your own website" when people complained about deplatforming that had an obvious bias went to their own even gayer version of Gab overnight.
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As a guy born in '85, it pains me to hear that! But it really is the worst of millennial-become-boomer, facebook brainrot as BetterFuckChuck said above. That kind of tone, humor, and policing was already tiring and aggravating a good fifteen-to-twenty years ago when it began to crop up, and to see it revive on even one small part of the internet again is an unwelcome blast from the past.
 
BetterFuckChuck said:



gail simone lost an argument about jk rowlng to some infamous autistic black terf and sent her fanbase to her. the replies are fucking glorious
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I love how in those replies, no one actually refutes the points made, they just all seethe at the fact that someone dared go against the narrative, especially to dare say Mommy Gail is incorrect. Because they have no counter argument.

Gail did recently write a Red Sonja prose novel, but I doubt it did anywhere near Rowling's numbers, or even her books under the name Galbraith. So the jealousy comment probably hit the nail on the head.
 
I've been reading Crossed lately and I read The Boys a while ago. While I think Garth Ennis' Punisher comics are great, any time I read anything else by the guy it's just:

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I know this isn't an original opinion but this is how Ennis' writing feels.
 
LolRaccoon said:
I've been reading Crossed lately and I read The Boys a while ago. While I think Garth Ennis' Punisher comics are great, any time I read anything else by the guy it's just:

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I know this isn't an original opinion but this is how Ennis' writing feels.
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Funny how if you read his old stuff it's "superheroes hecking suck! corporate stooges" and then something new like jimmy's bastards is "corporate idpol is hecking wholesome! if you hate superhero media you're a bigot!"
 
Arthur Morgan said:
The eighties was when things got darker for Batman and the idea had been floated around before, but A Serious House on a Serious Earth was I think the one that made it a plot point.

I'm also a fan of it, I do love painted graphic novels and Dave McKean's work is great. I remember liking the Black Orchid mini series he did with Neil Gaiman, though I don't remember much about it. I think Batman had a cameo in that too but I may be misremembering.
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I've made numerous attempts to read AA but the art is just vomit and the lettering even worse and Morrison does totally random shit like establish Black Mask as a major figure in the story but then does jack shit with him, not even giving him armchair psychology profiling...

If there ever was a story needing redoing from scratch it's Arkham Asylum.

Fleetwood said:
Those comics held up, pretty good stuff for X-Slop. I re-read some a few years ago. All the artists were running away from marvel to image back then so it's a shame Larry Stroman was only on the first few. His art is really wild on those All New All Different X-Factor and he never quite had that same style again on later work. David also wrote a shitload of Star Trek novels if you're into that. RIP
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Disagree. Stromam's art sucked and the book was a huge hit in spite of him.

It also made me realize, having recently picked up the latest Xfactor Epic trade, that post O5 Xfactor pretty much lived and died on the strength of the Alex/Lorna relationship. The second they were broken up and Alex condemned to a bullshit villain arc, the book died HARD. And was why the revival was so meandering and bad, as Havok and Polaris were the heart and souls of the PAD run.
 
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