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I'm so out of the loop with funnybooks these days I have no idea if this article makes even the remotest sense. Curious what those more interest think about this. Nothing about shops closing, nothing about Diamond impoding, but also claims revenue is increasing.


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I also got a chuckle out of the shop owners they talked to:
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Also not sure why they veered off into children's books about halfway through, but there it is.
 
Elwood P. Dowd said:
Also not sure why they veered off into children's books about halfway through, but there it is.
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Because the comics industry is in shambles. The big 2 exist only as IP farms for the movies, and indie comics are there just for aspiring TV writers to disguise their pitches as books, in hopes they can sell them to a studio later.
And the only things that actually sell are children's books (Dogman, Raina Telgemeier books, things like that) and manga (because comic sales are so shit, they're counting them too).
 
Commander X said:
Came across a copy of a Chuck Dixon project I picked up a while back, a 48-pager published by Marvel's Epic line; working with the Argentinian artist Jorge Zaffino who he'd collabed with on the mini-eries Winter World they came up with Seven Block. Inmates John Tanner and Jilly Martinez are both faced with situations where signing up to be subjects for medical experiments to get them out of general population seems to be the best option. Just simple medical experiments, no surgery involved. Nevermind the other, previous subject, Dwayne who is kept in his cell all day now. Occasionally, he's heard giggling "hee hee hee hee" which isn't creepy at all.

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IDW re-relased the GN in black and white back in 2004 and copies can be a bit pricey, which is a shame on account of Zaffino's art for this book looking better in stark B&W - the only posted examples I've been able to find over the years are of Spanish translations.

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A shame it's not anywhere online. I loved the B/W version of Winter World they printed, the man's brush work is gorgeous and looks so much better when it's allowed to stand on its own.
 
Nick Obre said:
Allow me to sperg for a moment.
On a whim, I put on a video on the background while I worked, about comparing the League of Extraordinary Gentlement comic to the movie. Not a great subject but just for noise, you know.
First thing I see is the guy wears his fingernails painted black. Bad sign.

Couple minutes in, and he's disraught at how racist O'Neill's drawings of Arabs and Chinese are. He actually said, out loud, that fucking faggot cliché of "What - and I cannot stress this enough - the fuck?".
-For one: it's a world made from old victorian literature, meant to reflect that, what the fuck does he want it to be made with the sensitivities of today? He even dismays about how "this was made in 1999, how did he think this was OK???".
-For another: Did you see how he draws the British? The French? How ugly and grotesque most characters are? Do Campion Bond's facial fat folds not immediately communicate that this style is not intended to be flattering?

And the comments, everyone panicking about Moore's penchant to include rape "SA" in his stories. How it's uncomfortable to see it. Yeah sit down on your fainting couch, you baby, it's not meant to be comfortable. Are opium dens comfortable to you? Cannibalism? You're not crying about those being portrayed, why only cry about rape, an element much more frequent both in world literature and world history than pretty much anything else other than murder.

I swear to god, and it's not news to anyone here but these people are the concerned Christian moms of today.
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if u wanna complain about LXG complain about the third volume christ
ChampFantana said:
I recently read Neonomicon by Alan Moore with art by Jacen Burrows. Could have done without the pornographic aspects of the story, but I may have missed the point that Moore was going for in the first place. Overall it was ok, but I don't see myself going for a re-read anytime soon.

I also read A Walk Through Hell by Ennis, and can confidently say that it is utter shit from start to finish. The story is an incoherent, disjointed mess coupled with shitty art and retard-tier political sperging. I guess Ennis finally lost his touch, which was bound to happen eventually. But I still appreciate his earlier work.

The Old Man Logan story arc written by Mark Millar was pretty good, but once Brian Micheal Bendis took over it became unreadable. The change in artists doesn't help either.
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finally? lmao. maybe the elements are satirical but ennis is a weird breed of lefty. hates superheroes and rightoids but absolutely sucks off the military at every point
 
The last Englehart Fantastic Four Epic trade drops this week, which includes the infamous "Dream Saga" that was the very first Fantastic Four story I ever read.

Sadly it's missing Web of Spider-Man's 1989 Annual, which is a Fantastic Four/Spider-Man team-up as part of the Atlantis Attacks crossover and sets up Sue's abduction as part of the AA saga and features the actual Atlantis Invasion of NYC. Instead, we get Triumph and Torment, which was already reprinted in the Dr Strange Epic line in a trade that IIRC was only just recently reprinted.

Also, in terms of "you got to be shitting me" department, the new printing of the second Fantastic Four by John Byrne omnibus is censored as fuck as all instances of "nigger" are blacked out in the Hatemonger arc. Makes me fucking dread the release of Uncanny X-Men Omnibus v5, since this and New Mutants Omnibus 2 being censored makes me fear Kitty calling a black anti-mutant bigot a nigger will be censored too. And what this means for the next Fantastic Four Masterwork (which will have the Hatemonger arc) and the very last New Mutant Epic, which will have New Mutants #45 (which was the censored story in the New Mutants Omnibus).
 
BetterFuckChuck said:
lol his name is literally hatemonger and libs think itll come off an endorsement
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For what it's worth, the Byrne Hatemonger was the first of the Hatemongers who explicitly stoke racial hatred on BOTH sides of the racial/political spectrum; with the plot point that Psycho-Man (Hatemonger's master) having Hatemonger (a shape shifting Microverse monster machine) change from white guy to black woman and other ethnic identities to basically make all of the races and men/women to hate each other.

Fabian Nicieza continued this trend with the third Hatemonger being a literal psychic vampire who fed on hate/negative emotions and after using his power to mindrape a bunch of cops who beat up a black kid into becoming the new Sons of Serpents (another Marvel hate group which has a history of being a front of bad guys stroking racial animus on both sides to profit from it) then shapeshifted into a black guy urging black people to start killing cops at the end of the story.
 
MirrorNoir said:
For what it's worth, the Byrne Hatemonger was the first of the Hatemongers who explicitly stoke racial hatred on BOTH sides of the racial/political spectrum; with the plot point that Psycho-Man (Hatemonger's master) having Hatemonger (a shape shifting Microverse monster machine) change from white guy to black woman and other ethnic identities to basically make all of the races and men/women to hate each other.

Fabian Nicieza continued this trend with the third Hatemonger being a literal psychic vampire who fed on hate/negative emotions and after using his power to mindrape a bunch of cops who beat up a black kid into becoming the new Sons of Serpents (another Marvel hate group which has a history of being a front of bad guys stroking racial animus on both sides to profit from it) then shapeshifted into a black guy urging black people to start killing cops at the end of the story.
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Hatemonger go on Cumtown
 
MirrorNoir said:
The last Englehart Fantastic Four Epic trade drops this week, which includes the infamous "Dream Saga" that was the very first Fantastic Four story I ever read.

Sadly it's missing Web of Spider-Man's 1989 Annual, which is a Fantastic Four/Spider-Man team-up as part of the Atlantis Attacks crossover and sets up Sue's abduction as part of the AA saga and features the actual Atlantis Invasion of NYC. Instead, we get Triumph and Torment, which was already reprinted in the Dr Strange Epic line in a trade that IIRC was only just recently reprinted.

Also, in terms of "you got to be shitting me" department, the new printing of the second Fantastic Four by John Byrne omnibus is censored as fuck as all instances of "nigger" are blacked out in the Hatemonger arc. Makes me fucking dread the release of Uncanny X-Men Omnibus v5, since this and New Mutants Omnibus 2 being censored makes me fear Kitty calling a black anti-mutant bigot a nigger will be censored too. And what this means for the next Fantastic Four Masterwork (which will have the Hatemonger arc) and the very last New Mutant Epic, which will have New Mutants #45 (which was the censored story in the New Mutants Omnibus).
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It can't be helped with the state of the companies.

I'll add that the collections from both major companies are fucked to hell. We've gotten some good omnibus reprints, FM Daredevil and the ongoing UXM series. But Marvel has more or less stuck to a systemic pattern of Kirby/Lee 60s era, anything Byrne, haphazard collections of connected creators, and newfag garbage. The only thing that seems to disrupt this is television. She-hulk? Well, let's reprint a shit ton of everything She-hulk.

DC is somehow even worse. With the exception of Watchman and DKR, DC basically goes Geoff Johns>Prestige 80s 90s books like Preacher and Sandman> NewFag garbage.

Collections may finally be dying, which is unfortunate because they present the opportunity to showcase and highlight little known gems and runs.

Glowie Hunter Art Bell said:
Any good Cyberpunk/Bladerunner/Judge Dredd style comics that are a bit off the radar?
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Ellis and has several Cyberpunk/Balderunner comics. Frank Miller Hard Boiled.

Rai of Valiant comics might count as this though it's not edgy like all the above. Also there is Vampi, an Amerianime Cyberpunk reboot of Vampirella from the turn of the Century. These are more cheesy.
 
Commander X said:
Came across a copy of a Chuck Dixon project I picked up a while back, a 48-pager published by Marvel's Epic line; working with the Argentinian artist Jorge Zaffino who he'd collabed with on the mini-eries Winter World they came up with Seven Block. Inmates John Tanner and Jilly Martinez are both faced with situations where signing up to be subjects for medical experiments to get them out of general population seems to be the best option. Just simple medical experiments, no surgery involved. Nevermind the other, previous subject, Dwayne who is kept in his cell all day now. Occasionally, he's heard giggling "hee hee hee hee" which isn't creepy at all.

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IDW re-relased the GN in black and white back in 2004 and copies can be a bit pricey, which is a shame on account of Zaffino's art for this book looking better in stark B&W - the only posted examples I've been able to find over the years are of Spanish translations.

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Outstanding artwork, shame i probably won't get to read it as @Arthur Morgan states it can't be found online. The pencils in that b/w page are amazing.
Dean Pentel said:
I thought the guy was a genius when I read Preacher back in the 90s.
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Same, i still have a huge soft spot for that comic and i wager to guess that Preacher is the one series Ennis poured all his heartblood into, a lot of emotion in it for a work that also has some of the most over-the-top gore and violence. I love the character arcs and its conclusion wasn't even half bad, also probably the best pencils Steve "Sameface King" Dillon (RIP) ever did.
Dean Pentel said:
Same with The Boys
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Never cared for that comic and actually preferred the show's first season over its source material, though it shit the bed unbelievably badly around the middle of s02 and became unwatchable garbage after. Last season was a travesty.
 
CowPox said:
Has anyone read "Just a pilgrim" by Ennis? Is it good?
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Depends on what you like. It's definitely far down the ridiculous/gross end of the Ennis scale. Personally, I find a pirate king with two eyepatches, hook hands and peg-legs to be hilarious, but your milage may vary.
 
CowPox said:
Has anyone read "Just a pilgrim" by Ennis? Is it good?
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I love the first one, very fun. The Garden of Eden undoes all the character development from the first story and shits on religion because Ennis is an edgelord moron who never matured out of his edgy internet atheist phase.
 
(Closest thread i could find for this since combic book related subject|) i have this book


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Right next to me right next to me right now and had another one with the Hulk and Doctor Doom in it. does anyone know how many were made (this one is from 1996)

Unrelated to the above but are there comic books still worth reading these days? All those i know about went to shit or died years ago (not just big two but IDW, Dark Horse and that tier of comic books making companies) and i don't know so many of what is out there now
 
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