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ChampFantana said:
Goran Parlov's art is pretty bad
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I like Goran Parlovs art therefore I take your statement as a personal insult.

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For the longest time I have dismissed the Boys after reading two issues. It just seemed overly crude and the Amazon show's big push did little to make me interested. I finally finished all 72 issues and I liked it. Once you learn to roll with the humor and have a laugh you find that there is actually an interesting story hidden under here.
 
Arthur Morgan said:
It's remained in my top 10 ever since I got into it and it's easily Ennis' best work. It's a shame that Leandro Fernandez couldn't have drawn the whole book but there was some good art on there. I loved how Ennis didn't shy away from the fact that Frank is a monster who just happens to go after the right targets, but gave him enough humanity to not alienate the audience without making him too soft. Makes me wish that instead of something like The Boys or Crossed, he could just stick with serious, gritty crime dramas because when he's not trying to be offensive, he can make some pretty good stories.

Speaking of Ennis, The Pro is still to me the biggest waste of potential ever made. A hooker gets powers and instead of being a superhero she goes out to make as much cash as she can servicing johns? That could have been good. And instead he spends more times pissing on the Justice League than doing anything all that entertaining.
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Ennis badly needs someone to rein him in. He can't write good books without a hands-on editor or a co-writer. He has some interesting ideas, but his crutches and holdups prevent them from being developed to their full potential. Boys is an easy example of that. It has potential of a good satire in vein of Robocop. Ennis instead squanders it on cheap humor, shock value, and contempt for superheroes. Story has very little depth of any kind, and the ending makes it feel even more lackluster.

I did not care much for Preacher but like Punisher a lot. Boys was the next book I read. I was disappointed, and thought that maybe Boys was just a stumble and Preacher didn't gel with me. Next comic of his I picked up was Gravel. It's about an ex-SAS veteran William Gravel who is also a mage, and he combines military and arcane to do his job. That sounded very interesting. The book had some entertaining visuals too, like Gravel's pocket dimension with his orchard of trees that grow guns and ammo. Then I started reading the book. It squandered all potential by being another story about a badass with guns and black coat who kills a series of boring characters. His enemies just use magic and he does too sometimes.

I skipped Crossed, but gave some of Ennis' "War Stories" a chance. They are alright but nowhere near his Punisher, and not good enough to make me want to read them all. No badasses in trench coats there, and you can tell that Ennis enjoys writing these. I don't like them as much as Punisher, but they deserve more acclaim than Boys and Preacher.


Cool kitties club said:
For the longest time I have dismissed the Boys after reading two issues. It just seemed overly crude and the Amazon show's big push did little to make me interested. I finally finished all 72 issues and I liked it. Once you learn to roll with the humor and have a laugh you find that there is actually an interesting story hidden under here.
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I thought that the ending was very meh. I did not like that the government had weapons that could kill supes all along and they never stepped in earlier. Twist with the the clone being the one all along was pretty odd, almost as it was simply done for the sake of itself. With some parodies Ennis just goes for the lowest hanging fruit. I share his sentiment on superhero comics holding the medium back but he has too much loathing for capes and love for crude jokes. X-Men parody is a good example. Going for Xavier being a kiddy diddler is pretty lazy. He could have done something a little more creative. Going after X-Men's melodrama, angst, ridiculous story lines, even more ridiculous origin stories of characters like Cable, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much to lampoon, and Ennis went with the most obvious joke.
 
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I thought that the ending was very meh. I did not like that the government had weapons that could kill supes all along and they never stepped in earlier. Twist with the the clone being the one all along was pretty odd, almost as it was simply done for the sake of itself. . With some parodies Ennis just goes for the lowest hanging fruit. I share his sentiment on superhero comics holding the medium back but he has too much loathing for capes and love for crude jokes. X-Men parody is a good example. Going for Xavier being a kiddy diddler is pretty lazy. He could have done something a little more creative. Going after X-Men's melodrama, angst, ridiculous story lines, even more ridiculous origin stories of characters like Cable, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. There is so much to lampoon, and Ennis went with the most obvious joke.
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I believe the government was not aware of the strategy Butcher used to home in on the altered neural pathways created by V users, that was something he picked up in Russia and kept it to himself.
 
@MirrorNoir
As for Ennis and Punisher, I prefer to only acknowledge the original 12 issue mini (Welcome Back Frank) and the follow up mini, Punisher War Zone that came out in the late 00s. Ennis had no fucking clue what he was doing after the original mini and Detective Soap trauma conga line got tired real quick.
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I think you're thinking of the Marvel Knights Punisher series because the weird "lol soap fucked his mom lolololol" crap wasn't in what people refer to as Punisher MAX. The 2001 MK series was dumb and goofy (though there were still a handful of good stories in it), the 2004 MAX series was far more grounded and serious and also by far Ennis' best work and some of my favorite comics.
 
Tor Lugosi said:
@MirrorNoir


I think you're thinking of the Marvel Knights Punisher series because the weird "lol soap fucked his mom lolololol" crap wasn't in what people refer to as Punisher MAX. The 2001 MK series was dumb and goofy (though there were still a handful of good stories in it), the 2004 MAX series was far more grounded and serious and also by far Ennis' best work and some of my favorite comics.
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Oh yeah, like Hitman is was basically PG Preacher. I noped out when the Russian came back with giant tits complaining about the issue where Frank chains up Daredevil and lectures him. I think going over to Marvel was a good step for Ennis, it got him out of his creative rut and forced him to branch out. Sure, Fury (The 2001 mini he did with Darrick Robertson) and Punisher had a lot of similar tropes and dumb jokes, but we also got some interesting stories.

Unfortunately Mark Millar did the same thing, but he got worse. Though I did like Wolverine Enemy of the State.
 
PeggieBigCock said:
Who has read Skydoll, I like Barbucci and am an unironic W.I.T.C.H fan
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I did but found it kind of meh. Pretty disappointing based on the praise it got and the marketing push I saw in Europe when I visited around the time book came out. It starts out interesting but it is Barbucci's art that carries the book in the end. You can see the tinges of Juan Gimenez's influence show up in Barbucci's Sky Doll art style. He somehow manages to tweak his style to make it distinct for every project but you can still tell it's Barbucci.
Ekho is Barbucci's peak so far. Just look at this. His art carries the book again but I find Arleston's writing there far more palatable than Canepa's in Sky Doll. At least for the first five albums before the mediocre six to nine. Things get better in ten however, but the story has built up a lot of loose threads that are kind of negelected.

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Anon88 said:
Judging by the pictures of the comics in the video it just looks like more capeshit. The only thing it has going for it in the pile of other superhero comics is that it's creator is "non woke" which isn't going to be enough to get people to actually buy the comics.
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Supposedly they have already made $1.7-$2 million in sales, presumably pre-orders given that the first issue launches in August.

I'm not an industry expert, so I have no idea how much that is on the scale of things for individual issue sales.
 
Millar's Enemy of the State was god-awful, especially since Millar shat on Baron Strucker and killed him off, even though he was heavily being featured in Thunderbolts before and during the run and forced a bullshit retcon that the Strucker in EotS was an imposture paid to pretend to be his wife's super pathetic cuck even though Millar had explicitly featured Strucker's internal dialogue in the arc.

Also, he explicitly ripped off a rather famous canceled Claremont storyline with the arc and didn't even give us the planned payoff (Jean Grey as evil Wolverine's Queen of the Night prisoner).

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Eternals attack Krakoa and the Mars colony of Otherworld mutants, wiping out the later and the entire cast save for Nightcrawler (who has Cable, not Storm or Magneto as the top priority for immediate resurrection when the later three are massacred off panel) and failing miserably in their goal with the former; which was assassinating the Five so mutants can't resurrect. They kill Butterball (Bendis's fat fuck who could create gold balls that Hickman retconned as embryos) and nearly kill Hope before Wolverine intervenes. And Butterball comes back same issue as he by luck, excused himself from a volleyball game earlier in the issue before the attack, so he could make some spare eggs which lets him and Cable come back ASAP.

Also, several of the gender flipped Eternals rescue Sinister off-panel from the other Eternals for Sersi who the Avengers have taken hostage so they can try and stop the Eternals from attacking the X-Men preemptively.

Oh and the preview lied: the Uni-Mind doesn't one shot KO the X-Men telepaths as instead it zaps them and leads to an off-camera telepathic battle above the city as the invasion force invades to give cover for the murder of the Five.

Sersi ultimately states that the only way to de-escalate shit with the Eternals declaring holy war on mutants (and announcing their plans to do so, complete with their new Evangelion sized giant robots helping them) is to get a Celestial to tell the Eternals to back the fuck down and the only way to get a Celestial to do that is to revive the Celestial who's corpse that the Avengers are currently squatting inside of.

Also, "New Mutants Epic Collection: the End of the Beginning" finally came out. Good volume though I'm kind of miffed that they omitted the Warlock and Mirage solo stories from Marvel Comics Present. The former is a nice "lost" story with Warlock that gives him a better final send-off than what he got in Xtinction Agenda and the later explains why Mirage got kicked out of Asgard.
 
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Earth One: Green Lantern is phenomenal, it’s a standalone love-letter to Alien, 2001: A Space Odyssey and a bit of Blade Runner.

For more modern comparisons I’d compare it to Dead Space or Mass Effect, especially the former as our protagonist is a clinically-depressed wagie who works for a mining company.

Set in a distant future where man has a successful form of space travel and immense mining operations have begun on our solar system. Ferris Galactic employee Harold “Hal” Jordan finds the first sign of exterrestrial life…….

In a world without “other heroes” Green Lantern is allowed to shine and his mythos take centre-stage on the galactic scale, there’s some clever twists to the usual cast and an underlying message of hope at the end.
 
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Earth One: Green Lantern is phenomenal, it’s a standalone love-letter to Alien, 2001: A Space Odyssey and a bit of Blade Runner.

For more modern comparisons I’d compare it to Dead Space or Mass Effect, especially the former as our protagonist is a clinically-depressed wagie who works for a mining company.

Set in a distant future where man has a successful form of space travel and immense mining operations have begun on our solar system. Ferris Galactic employee Harold “Hal” Jordan finds the first sign of exterrestrial life…….

In a world without “other heroes” Green Lantern is allowed to shine and his mythos take centre-stage on the galactic scale, there’s some clever twists to the usual cast and an underlying message of hope at the end.
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You have no idea how much I wish Superman: Earth One had more books, I really enjoyed that take on clark
 
Grumpy Pickle Rick said:
Why is it always white college women who make characters and comics like this?
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I've always assumed they were girls who were ignored by males in highschool only to find a niche of nerdy comic type men in college who simp for them, and because they're 10 years behind in experience having simps compared to most women their age They cultivate a more rabid type of cult that leads to them becoming queen of the bugmen and getting easily promoted in their niche.

Tor Lugosi said:
@MirrorNoir


I think you're thinking of the Marvel Knights Punisher series because the weird "lol soap fucked his mom lolololol" crap wasn't in what people refer to as Punisher MAX. The 2001 MK series was dumb and goofy (though there were still a handful of good stories in it), the 2004 MAX series was far more grounded and serious and also by far Ennis' best work and some of my favorite comics.
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Have you read Platoon? I found it rather forgettable...
 
Finally got Red Room Trigger Warnings #4 (local comic shop forgot to order it and finally got their copy in this week). After reading it and it's plot (which includes a zinger that explicitly states Steven Spielberg is a sick fuck who pays cryptocurrency to watch people murder other people on the Dark Web) I wonder how long until Piskor gets canceled due to the fact that he's going hard on the whole "the elites are sick fucks who use their money to finance the murder of poor people for their amusement" angle with Red Room.
 
Registration said:
You have no idea how much I wish Superman: Earth One had more books, I really enjoyed that take on clark
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Earth One: Superman was pretty good, most of the imprint is actually recommended.

With the obvious exceptions of Wonder Woman and Teen Titans.

Superman is pretty much what Sneeder attempted…….. but competent and grounded, Batman is a return to basic crime fighting and has actually been used as inspiration for modern stuff like Battinson and Telltale.


Earth One: Wonder Woman is what happens when you let a writer do whatever he wants because of past merits.
 
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Earth One: Superman was pretty good, most of the imprint is actually recommended.

With the obvious exceptions of Wonder Woman and Teen Titans.

Superman is pretty much what Sneeder attempted…….. but competent and grounded, Batman is a return to basic crime fighting and has actually been used as inspiration for modern stuff like Battinson and Telltale.


Earth One: Wonder Woman is what happens when you let a writer do whatever he wants because of past merits.
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I kinda like reading Batman one because bruce is treated like a retard with a dream. He clearly have no clue about what to do but still does anyway.
I really like the cat part in Superman Earth one. And unusual opinion but I will say regardless: Krypton being blown up by someone is way fucking better than just being natural explosion, it just doesn't make sense with the idea that krypton was a super-science populated country to happen naturally.
 
The Earth One books are garbage incarnate and it's shitty as fuck they've been permanently given the Earth 1 designation (the regular DCU is now "Earth Zero") even though A. None of the books lines are compatible with each other canon wise (to the point Multiversity had to pull out their asses that "Earth 1 Universe is still forming and is unstable" to explain the glaring contradictions in the various lines and how none of the books can be taking place in the same shared universe) and B. Each book line is a glorified fucking vanity project with ZERO redeeming social value.

Hell, just fucking put Geoff Johns on Batman or Detective Comics. Or Grant Morrison on Wonder Woman. Would actually fucking SELL and actually make money instead of these dumpster fire fuel books that end up getting dumped at Ollies (where my local Ollies has an entire shelf of unsold Wonder Woman and Superman Earth One books no one wanted).

It goes to show how up DC's asses DC Comics is that they can't even do their own version of the Ultimate Line right, unless it's a cartoon tie-in book for kids.
 
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