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[DaBigBopper]

So that Miles Morales as hood nigger Thor is hilariously out-dated and mildly racist, but the absolute best part is that it's by a Mexican Jew. And get this, seriously take a seat... his name is Yehudi Mercado. It literally means Jewish Merchant and he' some Jew obsessed with crack ghetto aesthetics.

His hammer has fucking graffiti on it. The Frost Giants are Ghetto niggers. I'm not even joking when I say it's like if pre-2016 or 2016 /pol/ made a comic.

 

[Ser Prize]

This, the activist fag shit is annoying. People liked Jon because he was a perfectly written child character, had wholesome stories and like his dad, brought out the best in people.
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This is what it was all about.

He also had a great dynamic with Damian, who was a Robin that people struggled with.

 

[Kup]

He also had a great dynamic with Damian, who was a Robin that people struggled with.
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The adventures of little Bruce and Clark were great, it fixed Damian and did the “legacy” aspect properly and with respect.

“Legacy” characters are kinda cringe ngl, but Super Sons really nailed it. Reading it you could see that the two were their own characters but at their cores, you could see the future Batman and Superman.

Shame that fat faggot ruined it.

 

[SpergPatrol]

Comic book writers are gay and I would not have sex with them

 

[Ser Prize]

The adventures of little Bruce and Clark were great, it fixed Damian and did the “legacy” aspect properly and with respect.

“Legacy” characters are kinda cringe ngl, but Super Sons really nailed it. Reading it you could see that the two were their own characters but at their cores, you could see the future Batman and Superman.

Shame that fat faggot ruined it.

I'm not opposed to mantles per say, or rather I didn't used to be. These days it's all pretty shitty and done terribly. But with Supersons it was different.

Damian and Jon were similar enough to their dads that you could see the future in them while still having their own fun dynamic. And you got to see them be immature and childish, doing shit like making fun of eachother over girls.

And now that's all gone. Thanks to Bendis. He destroys everything good.

 

[Mega Black]

And now that's all gone. Thanks to Bendis. He destroys everything good.

I loved that in the leadup to his involvement with DC all their books were packed with big advertisements that were some flavor of

BENDIS IS COMING

Which, to me, read like a warning to abandon ship while the getting was good. It was funny to see D.C. try to hit the party button and mistake it for the panic alarm instead.

 

[Cool kitties club]

I loved that in the leadup to his involvement with DC all their books were packed with big advertisements that were some flavor of

BENDIS IS COMING

Which, to me, read like a warning to abandon ship while the getting was good. It was funny to see D.C. try to hit the party button and mistake it for the panic alarm instead.

Bendis is cumming

Now onto the next part of the Swamp thing reread:

Swamp Thing Vol. 3 by Brian K Vaughan: This was really bad. Its 20 issues which amount to the very start of another story which has never happened. Brian K Vaughan comes from the modern school of comic writing which is far more like screenwriting so its all very dialog driven and the dialog is just bad. Almost every character is insufferable and quips all the time in the same voice. For instance a character is introduced early on as having a southern accent when Vaughan never writes her lines phonetically or even uses Southern Dialect words and instead opts to have her talk in the same generic west coast urban accent every other character does. It is no surprise he would later do some Tv and film writing as this is quintessential Hollywood. Tefe Holland as a main character is extra insufferable, all she does is whine and act bitchy to people for no reason and change motivations constantly, which I guess is the point. The whole series is a bunch of meandering plot threads which deliberately go no where because Tefe is young and dumb and doesn't know what she's doing. This could have been okay if the actual events were interesting in an episodic sense but every plotline is just dumb including things like a guy killing his neighbor because he cooked stinky cheese and a cross-dressing schizo politician (which is a lot less cool in the book then it sounds). This is on top of just bad page real estate in general like when the John Constantine crossover issue wastes half of the pages explain his side of a previous event only for his side to just be the exact same thing we heard before. Really this should have a been a 10 issue or so starter arc to a larger plotline (I have no idea if Brian K Vaughan had more planned after this but either way 20 issues is way to many compared to how much actual content is here), but as it stands its 20 very drawn out issues showing as a very unlikeable character and how stupid and unlikable she actually is. The art is also pretty poor for the material. Its very stylized and cartoony but very poor at expressing horror or violence versus the previous Mark Millar run which had very stylized art by Phil Hester which was also very creepy and gross.

Swamp Thing vol. 4 by Andy Diggle: This 6 issue arc kicks off Vol 4 by setting up a new status quo and clearing the table set up by Millar and Vaughan. While Moore was able to reshape the status quo of Swamp Thing in 2 issues and pay respect to what came before, Diggle only seems to get the broad strokes of the previous stories. For instance it clearly takes place after vol. 3 as Swamp Thing destroys an anthropomorphized green, but at the same time Swamp Thing also has all of his world powers despite giving them up and cutting himself off from the green in Vol. 3. Sargon of Akkad's plan also doesnt make much sense. He wants Tefe to fight Swamp Thing so he makes a fake swamp thing to attack her but also turns the real swamp thing into a mindless killing machine by stripping him of Alec Holland's mind, so idk why he even needed a fake thing. Either way it ends with Swamp Thing being stripped of the Green and the Holland mind leaving him a giant mossy monster. This could have led into some fun smaller scale horror stories like the original Wein and Wrightson issues, but they didn't.

Swamp thing Vol 4 by Will Pfeifer: This is just a terrible two issue filler. Cryptid hunter hunts cryptids for a fat retard with a shirt that says porn star and then cryptid hunter gets stuck in Swamp Thing's mind and attacked by Un-men. It makes no sense and is just retarded nonsense.

Swamp thing Vol 4 by Joshua Dysart: Swamp Thing slowly regains his memories and powers. Anton Arcane is evil again and wrecks Havok. There is an evil corporation which has an ethereal board of directors and fetus ceos that are eco sorcerers that control jelly monsters (I still don't get it). There is an old man who dies and lets all his tall tales free which run around and kill people, and at the end Woodrue now has a bunch of tiny clones. There is two semi interesting filler issues: one about an evil revival preacher which is actually an alien that turns his congregation into a giant granfalloon which flies into outerspace, and one where a piece of Alec's childhood memories meets a cartoon character who helps him reunite with swamp thing. Everything else is just boring with all these new characters which talk vaguely about the environment and swamp culture. More will they won't they with Abby and Swampy (its pretty depressing now that she is 50). And the whole thing ends on a cliffhanger involving Woodrue escaping and becoming a villain which will never be followed up as after this Swamp Thing wouldn't have a solo series until the new 52 reboot.

 

[Nick Obre]

Also, Black Adam shits on the roster claiming both Harley and Killer Frost are traitors in waiting

Man, remember a few years ago when they tried to make Killer Frost a thing? They were hinting towards her being a FUCKING ENDLESS or something.

 

[GranDuke]

Damian and Jon were similar enough to their dads that you could see the future in them while still having their own fun dynamic.

What are the similarities between Bruce and Damian?

 

[Tor Lugosi]

@Cool kitties club

Brian K Vaughan comes from the modern school of comic writing which is far more like screenwriting

His original claim to fame was being a writer for Lost and then showrunner for Under the Dome. I liked Runaways vol.1 & 2 a lot and his Doctor Strange: The Oath but beyond that I've never been able to get into any of his comic work. I found even 'Y The Last Man' boring -- like, you've got this weird, near post-apocalyptic setting and yet never really did much of interest with it, from the issues I read.

 

[Ser Prize]

What are the similarities between Bruce and Damian?

Moody, perfectionist, a not-so-subtle obsession with being the smartest guy in the room.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

Speaking of F4, ever since reading the series from the beginning it now amuses me how much adaptions make Reed into an awkward, spineless nerd whereas Stan Lee had the original Reed be a bad ass OSS agent who worked behind enemy lines with freedom fighters, likely having himself a kill count. Same with Ben, to a lesser extent

they think it's funny to just copy TV Tropes whining about how Reed could save the world, etc. etc. with his inventions.

Gotta say, I’m digging the Warworld storyline over in Action Comics. Mongul hasn’t been this badass since that Alan Moore storyline with the plant.
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I love the Mongul-succession idea.

Mongul's fun when done right, otherwise he's generic. Remember his sister, Mongal?

Man, remember a few years ago when they tried to make Killer Frost a thing? They were hinting towards her being a FUCKING ENDLESS or something.

Eh, I thought it wasn't a bad idea to give her a good shot. Shame they didn't follow up.

What are the similarities between Bruce and Damian?

Both have the same kinda social distance/awkwardness to them and can be a little stubborn.

@Cool kitties club

His original claim to fame was being a writer for Lost and then showrunner for Under the Dome. I liked Runaways vol.1 & 2 a lot and his Doctor Strange: The Oath but beyond that I've never been able to get into any of his comic work. I found even 'Y The Last Man' boring -- like, you've got this weird, near post-apocalyptic setting and yet never really did much of interest with it, from the issues I read.

I think he's solid-ish, but he's best witha Runaways style group.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I loved that in the leadup to his involvement with DC all their books were packed with big advertisements that were some flavor of

BENDIS IS COMING

Which, to me, read like a warning to abandon ship while the getting was good. It was funny to see D.C. try to hit the party button and mistake it for the panic alarm instead.

Still shocked that ad campaign got greenlit, because whoever did it, knew damn fucking well the horror that was coming and was on the downlow WARNING fans by basing ripping off a prior ad campaign involving Jack Kirby.

When Kirby jumped ship to DC in the early 70s, DC did ads saying "Kirby is Coming" just like they did with Bendis. Kirby might have created the New Gods, Darkseid, Mr Miracle, Orion, Demon, and OMAC but those books all flopped as did his run on the Losers and Jimmy Olsen and fans HATED Kirby's DC work (to the extent that DC had to physically ERASE Superman's face from all of Kirby's artwork and have one of the regular Superman arts redraw the faces on Superman).

So yeah, that ad campaign was a warning that bad shit was going down and fans IMMEDIATELY picked up on it and the comparison to Kirby's promotion.

That said, the only things of value and note Bendis did at DC was force DiDio to let him bring back Vic Sage over Greg Rucka's bullshit demand that Vic had to stay dead so his pet lesbian Renee Montoya could steal the identity permanently along with force DiDio to bring Connor Kent back; the later being conditional as the editorial staff would only allow Bendis near Young Justice unless he used all four founders, as opposed to his original plan to use Jon instead.

 

[Cool kitties club]

fans HATED Kirby's DC work (to the extent that DC had to physically ERASE Superman's face from all of Kirby's artwork and have one of the regular Superman arts redraw the faces on Superman).

Well it was more that DC hated it. They changed the faces before the books even hit print to fit in with the house style. Just a shame that DC wasted Kirby and especially Ditko who did hardly any horror comics despite that being his bread and butter over at Charlton and Warren.

 

[jspit2.0]

Still shocked that ad campaign got greenlit, because whoever did it, knew damn fucking well the horror that was coming and was on the downlow WARNING fans by basing ripping off a prior ad campaign involving Jack Kirby.

When Kirby jumped ship to DC in the early 70s, DC did ads saying "Kirby is Coming" just like they did with Bendis. Kirby might have created the New Gods, Darkseid, Mr Miracle, Orion, Demon, and OMAC but those books all flopped as did his run on the Losers and Jimmy Olsen and fans HATED Kirby's DC work (to the extent that DC had to physically ERASE Superman's face from all of Kirby's artwork and have one of the regular Superman arts redraw the faces on Superman).

So yeah, that ad campaign was a warning that bad shit was going down and fans IMMEDIATELY picked up on it and the comparison to Kirby's promotion.

That said, the only things of value and note Bendis did at DC was force DiDio to let him bring back Vic Sage over Greg Rucka's bullshit demand that Vic had to stay dead so his pet lesbian Renee Montoya could steal the identity permanently along with force DiDio to bring Connor Kent back; the later being conditional as the editorial staff would only allow Bendis near Young Justice unless he used all four founders, as opposed to his original plan to use Jon instead.

Bendis isn't fit to shine Kirby's shoes and fuck Rene Montaya got done dirty by Cucka.

 

[Kerr Avon]

fans HATED Kirby's DC work

Please keep the schizo takes coming , this is the funniest one yet.

 

[Registration]

https://twitter.com/RichStarkings/status/1537500022077628417
I remember thinking last halloween was the best batman comic when I started reading capeshit.
I also thought his art on Captain America White was dogshit.

Such a sudden death,what a shame.

 

[Kup]

What are the similarities between Bruce and Damian?

Brooding loner with socialization problems, trust issues, anger issues and a complexity addiction.

Plus they both have their best traits brought out by the presence of a surrogate kryptonian sibling.

Mongul's fun when done right, otherwise he's generic. Remember his sister, Mongal?

Oh I remember her, I’m still predicting her making a comeback. The current Mongul is her nephew and they both hated his dad, wouldn’t be surprised if she shows up as a suprise ally for Supes or Mongul III, honestly with this family it could go either way.

I’ve always liked these lunatics, Mongul I even went through Nu52 without too much damage.

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Well it was more that DC hated it. They changed the faces before the books even hit print to fit in with the house style. Just a shame that DC wasted Kirby and especially Ditko who did hardly any horror comics despite that being his bread and butter over at Charlton and Warren.

DC gave Jack Kirby his choice of any title when he came on board, but having been force to close his studio in the fifties, Jack didn't want to put anyone out of work so he chose Jimmy Olsen because it had no regular creative team. As for the Fourth World, it had its fans, but very little commercial appeal and didn't bring in the sales DC had hoped for. Jack was not as adept at writing prose and dialogue as Stan Lee despite the underlying plot and tropes being sound.

 

[Cool kitties club]

DC gave Jack Kirby his choice of any title when he came on board, but having been force to close his studio in the fifties, Jack didn't want to put anyone out of work so he chose Jimmy Olsen because it had no regular creative team. As for the Fourth World, it had its fans, but very little commercial appeal and didn't bring in the sales DC had hoped for. Jack was not as adept at writing prose and dialogue as Stan Lee despite the underlying plot and tropes being sound.

I'll actually defend the writing of the Fourth World writing as for each of the 3 main books there is a distinct writing style which is an impressive bit of world building, and I also don't think its really worse then Stan's writing. When people think of Lee's writing they usually think of F4 and Spider-Man when outside of those books Lee's writing became very hit or miss. There is a reason why it took a bit for the Avengers and X-men to take off, and stuff like Thor is just terrible. In particular the post Kirby/Ditko era of Lee writing in stuff like Silver Surfer is just terrible.