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Finally getting the post-Adam West yet pre-Crisis Batman stuff collected would be nice. There's been disparate trades that 'spotlight' various writers and artists during that era but I'd like something more complete.

It always bewilders me that they went through all that build up in The Gauntlet just to bring back a villain that had one good story and then proceeded to do pretty much nothing with him for years (although I did sorta like his arc in Scarlet Spider). It's a shame Spider-Man never really recovered from OMD. People had a lot hope for Nick Spencer but from what I've heard his stuff fell apart at the end of his Kindred arc and has only gotten worse.
 
GranDuke said:
In other news the man the legend Dan Didio is teaming up with Frank Miller and starting a new company:


At the moment they announced Ronin sequel and wild west Sin City prequel. It sure is going to be a ride.
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I will never understand the praise for Ronin, It is such a shitty story and the art isn't anything to write home about. The only thing I can is people praising the art for being kinetic because they never have seen a manga before in their whole life.
MirrorNoir said:
And with that, I would not be shocked if we don't start getting Bronze Age Batman omnibuses, since one of the issues which were handicapping DC putting out comprehensive collections of 1970s Batman books was Neal Adams having it in his contract that he get top billing on any trades collecting his work and them having to use his redrawn "Special Edition" recolors/redrawn versions of his Batman issues in trade releases.
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One thing I liked about the 70's Batman was that he stopped living in the Wayne Manor and went live in the city. It just doesn't make sense for him to be far away from the crime. Also that tower that he lived was cool as hell.

I also did read a pretty cool adaptation of Beowulf done by some spanish lads I guess, really good

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Tor Lugosi said:
Finally getting the post-Adam West yet pre-Crisis Batman stuff collected would be nice. There's been disparate trades that 'spotlight' various writers and artists during that era but I'd like something more complete.

It always bewilders me that they went through all that build up in The Gauntlet just to bring back a villain that had one good story and then proceeded to do pretty much nothing with him for years (although I did sorta like his arc in Scarlet Spider). It's a shame Spider-Man never really recovered from OMD. People had a lot hope for Nick Spencer but from what I've heard his stuff fell apart at the end of his Kindred arc and has only gotten worse.
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Technically that stuff HAS been collected. All Batman/Detective Comics Batman stories from 1964 (starting with the debut of "New Look" Batman in Detective #327/Batman #164, which is considered by many to be the "official" start of Silver Age Batman through 1972 (cutting off at Batman #244/Detective #426, with the finale of the original Ra's Al Ghul saga) was collected in the Showcase Presents line.

The real lost period is the 50s era stuff (which is now being collected in the Golden Age and Silver Age omnibus) and everything from the post-Neal Adams Batman through the first couple of months of Post-Crisis Batman (which had several skipped issues in the current trade series); with an emphasis on the 80s pre-Crisis stuff from when Batman/Detective Comics became one title with both books basically being one twice a month book. The only stuff from this gap period to be collected is the Englehart run and even that has had periods where it has been OOP with the trades and the mid-80s reprints going for big bucks.

Also, from what's been said, Brevoort was the one who pushed for Kraven being brought back because NO ONE accepted his replacements, even when they were turned into generation xerox clones of the original Kraven as far as fans hating them. It's why Joe Kelly ended up writing the resurrection storyline Grim Hunt (and bartered keeping Julia Carpenter alive as a tradeoff as Brevoort and Bendis wanted her to have been killed off in the story along with Madam Webb and Mattie, the notorious Byrne Spider-Woman).

Slott never used Kraven in his run, going so far as to use Rhino when he brought back the Sinister Six. Nick Spencer unfortunately fucked shit up with killing Kraven off again/replacing him with ANOTHER fucking clone (this time a literal clone), so Brevoort could be pacified that Kraven was still alive.

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I will never understand the praise for Ronin, It is such a shitty story and the art isn't anything to write home about. The only thing I can is people praising the art for being kinetic because they never have seen a manga before in their whole life.
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Ronin was Frank Miller's first creator own work and again, part of it's appeal was that it was heavily manga/anime and cyberpunk inspired, back when cyberpunk was still a novelty and anime/manga, but especially Long Wolf and Cub, were not available in the US. And IIRC, Ronin and Miller EXPLICILTLY namechecking LW&C as an influence on Ronin, was what got the ball rolling for LW&C getting brought to the United States to begin with and Miller even drew covers for the original US adaptation for it's first couple of years of publication (which only got a 1/3rd of the way through the series even with the publisher explicitly skipping chapters and cutting out all of the filler and only adapting the arch storyline and certain famous one-off chapters of the serial).
 
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Sure you may have way too many characters, a ridiculous production cycle and meandering plotlines that go absolutely nowhere but Rocket (who's never even spoken to Halo) got a pronoun wrong and that's suddenly a huge issue? What the fuck man.

Frankly I couldn't give a toss about anyone outside the S1 cast, Jaime and Brion but they never get any focus nowadays.
 
Modern comics have no idea what the fuck they want to be. The recent Marvel video games (Avengers and GoG) generally are terrible games, but they waste so much time and effort trying to be all these fucking things.
GoG would make sense to have radiant quests to get resources, they’re space pirates/ privateers. Instead it’s just a really over-complicated story when it should maybe just be the guardians get hired to hassle someone, one of them has a connection to the conflict, and they get thrown into the heart of a conflict. The first mission in that game is terrible, I watched a friend play it and it just looks awful.

The writers want to write something else and it shows in everything. Go write your gay self-insert story, no one wants to see properties once liked or enjoyed puppeted around for the sake of these boring fucking narratives.
Greg Wiseman seems at most to be an up-jumped production assistant. He should not be managing shit beyond quality control. His commentary on bigotry are not compelling. Racism bad is a boring fucking story.

The idea to make every character their own franchise and mantle is retarded. You don’t need Spider-Man II, the blond, or Spider-Man III, the gay black Puerto Rican. It kinda worked when a character had a sidekick, but most of the time it’s god awful because writers pets, writer fanboys, and fanboys who liked a character.
Moore is the only good British writer, but he’s insufferable because he’s a fanboy at heart. He loves America and loves Superheroes, but he has that British disease where he can’t admit it. Most of his independent stuff is okay to garbage.
Morrison is a snake who tries to sell himself as Moore 2.0. He’s a terrible writer, if you like the Invisible’s you have terrible taste and are stuck in the early 80’s. Animal Man is fucking pretentious.
Ennis is an edgelord.
Warren gets pissed off at the slightest banter (He literally got pissy when SomethingAwful asked him how he feels about being named after where rabbits live.)
The guy who wrote Starman is terrible and Starman is hipster trash that literally needs heckin’ references to survive.

There’s my rant. Recommend me a good video game, that GoG pissed me off so damn much.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
Modern comics have no idea what the fuck they want to be. The recent Marvel video games (Avengers and GoG) generally are terrible games, but they waste so much time and effort trying to be all these fucking things.
GoG would make sense to have radiant quests to get resources, they’re space pirates/ privateers. Instead it’s just a really over-complicated story when it should maybe just be the guardians get hired to hassle someone, one of them has a connection to the conflict, and they get thrown into the heart of a conflict. The first mission in that game is terrible, I watched a friend play it and it just looks awful.

The writers want to write something else and it shows in everything. Go write your gay self-insert story, no one wants to see properties once liked or enjoyed puppeted around for the sake of these boring fucking narratives.
Greg Wiseman seems at most to be an up-jumped production assistant. He should not be managing shit beyond quality control. His commentary on bigotry are not compelling. Racism bad is a boring fucking story.

The idea to make every character their own franchise and mantle is retarded. You don’t need Spider-Man II, the blond, or Spider-Man III, the gay black Puerto Rican. It kinda worked when a character had a sidekick, but most of the time it’s god awful because writers pets, writer fanboys, and fanboys who liked a character.
Moore is the only good British writer, but he’s insufferable because he’s a fanboy at heart. He loves America and loves Superheroes, but he has that British disease where he can’t admit it. Most of his independent stuff is okay to garbage.
Morrison is a snake who tries to sell himself as Moore 2.0. He’s a terrible writer, if you like the Invisible’s you have terrible taste and are stuck in the early 80’s. Animal Man is fucking pretentious.
Ennis is an edgelord.
Warren gets pissed off at the slightest banter (He literally got pissy when SomethingAwful asked him how he feels about being named after where rabbits live.)
The guy who wrote Starman is terrible and Starman is hipster trash that literally needs heckin’ references to survive.

There’s my rant. Recommend me a good video game, that GoG pissed me off so damn much.
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Mass Effect 1-2, best GoG/Suicide Squad/Avengers games ever made.
 
Kup said:
Mass Effect 1-2, best GoG/Suicide Squad/Avengers games ever made.
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I dislike Mass Effect. :( I’ve beat Elden Ring three times because I had death after death this past month in my real life and stayed home due to all the funerals.
I’ve been reading some philosophy stuff and old books, but I kinda like to veg out with a good game.
The more I read Buddhism and Hinduism the more I am sure that we should’ve destroyed India. Taoism is alright.
 
Did anyone read The Killing Joke after watching The Batman? Serious question.

It almost reminds me of the time when Sin City came out and I was confused as to at the time why they made a sequel to it.
 
albert the programmer said:
Did anyone read The Killing Joke after watching The Batman? Serious question.

It almost reminds me of the time when Sin City came out and I was confused as to at the time why they made a sequel to it.
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Haven't read Killing Joke in a while.

As for Sin City and it's sequel; the original Sin City film was a huge hit but was stuck in development limbo hell for ages due to Frank Miller wanting way more creative control over the making of the sequel. The sequel wasn't THAT bad (in particular, it has a movie exclusive storyline which is a sequel to the Yellow Bastard storyline where the evil piece of shit Senator finally gets his comeuppance) but by the time it came out, so much time had passed that critics crapped all over the sequel as far as Miller waiting to long to get it made and by that point, Marvel stuff was now the rage and Sin City was no longer the new hotness.
 
albert the programmer said:
Did anyone read The Killing Joke after watching The Batman? Serious question.

It almost reminds me of the time when Sin City came out and I was confused as to at the time why they made a sequel to it.
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Not to go off topic but is there a reason why they changed the animated adaptation of the killing joke so much? They had a perfectly good story but for some reason radically altered it and pretty much ruined it imo?
 
CowPox said:
Not to go off topic but is there a reason why they changed the animated adaptation of the killing joke so much? They had a perfectly good story but for some reason radically altered it and pretty much ruined it imo?
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because it was written by dog rape and pedophilia aficionado Brian Azzerello, him and the other writer knew the story of The Killing Joke has been criticized for sexism and decided to double down by adding an extra 45 minutes of sexism.

i'm not one to cry about sexism, but when you want to expand on Barbara Gordons character and your idea for that is 45 minutes of her whining to her gay bestie about how Bruce won't dick her down and the main villain of this section is making PMS jokes, not much else I can call it?

this was also done because people thought The Killing Joke was too short to make a movie out of, the actual TKJ content can fill like, 30 minutes, but DC wanted 70-80.
 
BTW Giant Size X-Men Thunderbird dropped this week, written by trans wrestler Nyla Rose and it's shockingly decent. With some nice callbacks to the infamous "Emma Frost Didn't Do It Even Though the Issue Explicitly Shows That She Did" retcon over who massacred Warpath and Thunderbird's tribe in New Mutants #98 and the mother of all "holy shit" moments that should have some major consequences for the X-Books going forward as far as the new Big Bad......

Judas fucking Traveler from the Clone Saga is back and working as a higher up at Orchis. Would not be shocked if he gets revealed to be Dr Stasis, the evil mad scientist in the main X-Book as far as the new big bad going after the X-Men and mutants in general
 
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BTW Giant Size X-Men Thunderbird dropped this week, written by trans wrestler Nyla Rose and it's shockingly decent. With some nice callbacks to the infamous "Emma Frost Didn't Do It Even Though the Issue Explicitly Shows That She Did" retcon over who massacred Warpath and Thunderbird's tribe in New Mutants #98 and the mother of all "holy shit" moments that should have some major consequences for the X-Books going forward as far as the new Big Bad......
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Now that the OG Thunderbird is back, I wonder what the third guy to take the name (Neel Shaara) will call himself?

It's funny how the name went from a Feather Indian to a Dot Indian. :story:
 
"Wonder Woman Earth One" is silly
" Firefly" has some laughable fight scenes.
 
Judas Traveller's back? I wonder if they'll retcon the history they gave him by the end of the Clone Saga (or have they done that already?) given that it clearly wasn't what DeMatteis was going for. JMD seemed like he was going for Traveller to be the actual Biblical Judas or possibly the Wandering Jew.
 
Water-T said:
Now that the OG Thunderbird is back, I wonder what the third guy to take the name (Neel Shaara) will call himself?

It's funny how the name went from a Feather Indian to a Dot Indian. :story:
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IIRC Neal Shaara was supposed to have a different name but Marvel made Claremont call him Thunderbird due to issues with Marvel needing to use the name to avoid losing the trademark.

That said, Claremont was the only one who really cared about the guy and even then, wrote him out midway through Xtreme X-Men during that book's retool midway through it's run.
 
MirrorNoir said:
IIRC Neal Shaara was supposed to have a different name but Marvel made Claremont call him Thunderbird due to issues with Marvel needing to use the name to avoid losing the trademark.
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I thought as much. It was 25 years since the first Thunderbird was created, and and the second one dropped it for Warpath around 1991.
 
MirrorNoir said:
IIRC Neal Shaara was supposed to have a different name but Marvel made Claremont call him Thunderbird due to issues with Marvel needing to use the name to avoid losing the trademark.
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I recall that Claremont wanted to call him Agni after the Hindu god of fire.
 
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