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[MirrorNoir]

Youtubers have flipped through it on video if you want to see more pages of the book:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zkiJOAzlT4c
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mieriv2VSWE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=U2OuKy-yftI
Refusing to scan it at all is completely over blown but from what I've seen on youtube it looks pretty bad. Like The Killing Joke and Flex Mentallo are both good recoloring jobs with just some controversial creative choices (this is coming from someone who prefers the original colors in both cases) the swamp thing recolors just look amateurish and too much like a generic modern comic. There are some pages which look fine but over all it is just makes the book look too unrecognizable.

Spoiler: Random screenshots of pages from the videos

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Still doesn't have the "Just Say Uncle" reveal page from Swamp Thing #29 in that video.

 

[GoPro]

On another topic, I've been reading a pretty good mini-series called, All Guts No Glory. It's about a high schooler who has a secret job cleaning up after monster hunters until him and his adult mentor meet a woman who is on the verge of permanently becoming a vampire. It's a bit of a coming of age story with a main villain who I could see being played by the late Meatloaf. The last issue should be out hopefully this month.

Thanks for the recommendation. I saw the third part out this past week, and ended up getting all three together. It's a solid read. Nothing amazing, but it's a decent coming of age light adventure. Like many comics with teenagers in high school, the justification for location of certain events is a bit iffy, but not to a degree it detracts from a story in a significant way. The inciting incident where the vampire girl is introduced and the main story takes off could be handled a little bit better too. Despite that, it's still better than an average American comic from Image or other non-superhero publisher. I do like the ending. It manages to wrap everything up neatly but it leaves the door open for more stories.
The artwork is competent. No major issues outside of slightly off looking anatomy here and there. I could be spoiled lately, as I've been reading European comics, classic, and re-reading Berserk over past few months.

What are your thoughts on the European Conan Comics that Ablaze publishes?

What I don't like is that they cut the art and add onomatopeias that didn't exist in the original

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I enjoy them. They are the closest thing around to old Marvel Savage Sword of Conan comics and Dark Horse's books. Europeans do not tone things down, and stories tend to be more concise. Both of them are a plus for me when Conan is concerned. I did not find Onomatopoeia's distracting, but I agree with yours and @Newman's Lovechild's sentiment. They do not work well when artists and writers aren't the ones putting them in. Onomatopoeias in western comics (American and European both) tend to be mishandled more often than not. Japanese are much better with them. There are very few western artists able to handle sound effects as well as Japanese. James Stokoe is the best one out of the ones I know. He can be quite creative with effects too. My favorite example is his Godzilla: The Half Century War. Stokoe did not know how to handle the roar at first. His solution was to look at the original roar's waveform, take its shape, and make a very distorted onomatopeia based on it.

 

[Hummingbird]

Thanks for the recommendation. I saw the third part out this past week, and ended up getting all three together. It's a solid read. Nothing amazing, but it's a decent coming of age light adventure. Like many comics with teenagers in high school, the justification for location of certain events is a bit iffy, but not to a degree it detracts from a story in a significant way. The inciting incident where the vampire girl is introduced and the main story takes off could be handled a little bit better too. Despite that, it's still better than an average American comic from Image or other non-superhero publisher. I do like the ending. It manages to wrap everything up neatly but it leaves the door open for more stories.
The artwork is competent. No major issues outside of slightly off looking anatomy here and there. I could be spoiled lately, as I've been reading European comics, classic, and re-reading Berserk over past few months.

I'm glad you liked it.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

So, just wanted to say that next month, I’ll be reading The Simpsons Compendium Comic Volumes from 1-6. The main reason is because I question how this show is still on the year, and yet reading certain excerpts from the comic strips, the actual comics are better than the show itself (discounting the episodes from the early to mid 1990’s, of course).

Matt Groening really seemed to regress after making Life Is Hell… for some reason. I just wish he’d make more comics in current day, but it’s whatever.

 

[Registration]

Thanks for the recommendation. I saw the third part out this past week, and ended up getting all three together. It's a solid read. Nothing amazing, but it's a decent coming of age light adventure. Like many comics with teenagers in high school, the justification for location of certain events is a bit iffy, but not to a degree it detracts from a story in a significant way. The inciting incident where the vampire girl is introduced and the main story takes off could be handled a little bit better too. Despite that, it's still better than an average American comic from Image or other non-superhero publisher. I do like the ending. It manages to wrap everything up neatly but it leaves the door open for more stories.
The artwork is competent. No major issues outside of slightly off looking anatomy here and there. I could be spoiled lately, as I've been reading European comics, classic, and re-reading Berserk over past few months.


I enjoy them. They are the closest thing around to old Marvel Savage Sword of Conan comics and Dark Horse's books. Europeans do not tone things down, and stories tend to be more concise. Both of them are a plus for me when Conan is concerned. I did not find Onomatopoeia's distracting, but I agree with yours and @Newman's Lovechild's sentiment. They do not work well when artists and writers aren't the ones putting them in. Onomatopoeias in western comics (American and European both) tend to be mishandled more often than not. Japanese are much better with them. There are very few western artists able to handle sound effects as well as Japanese. James Stokoe is the best one out of the ones I know. He can be quite creative with effects too. My favorite example is his Godzilla: The Half Century War. Stokoe did not know how to handle the roar at first. His solution was to look at the original roar's waveform, take its shape, and make a very distorted onomatopeia based on it.

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There was a comic that used onomatopeia as part of the art like a sword or something, it was american, I remember reading it and thinking: damn, this is untranslatable since it was part of the art.

 

[Anime Goddess]

I had forgotten about your post, and I'm glad I did, because the same thing ended up happening to me. I can't even be mad at that, it was funny at least. God, this word is overused online but Lagoon Boy is such a cuck. Probably a (do fish count as furry?) furry Gary Stu for those hack writers.

Since I already endured most of the stupid shit so far anyway, I think I'll finish this season out of morbid curiosity, hopefully there's more laughable dumb shit like that.

Greg Weisman is a writter I used to respect as one of the few that made quality Western animation that wasn’t from comedy shows.

Now that I am seeing how cringey, preachy and a insufferable SJW he is without someone at the network supervising him, he convinced me to just give up on western animation and focus solely on anime.

Might just stick around to see how it ends. But I, for one, hope this show never gets a new season. It stopped being about being about super heroes and it’s just twitter political propaganda.

 

[Registration]

I am reading Arthur, a celtic take on arthurian legends and so on, is there any good arthurian based comics or not?

 

[Newman's Lovechild]

On the topic of Godzilla and the subtle arts of comic creation: I ran into the graphic novelization of the unmade american film from 1994. Godzilla '94, or, Godzilla: Burn 'n' Dodge.

http://americankaiju.kaijuphile.com/american-godzilla94/

Spoiler

Pieces of movie script copied and pasted as redundant captions, also unexpected celebrity appearances:

L33t photoshop skillz:

Also, almost every scene change, apart from the prologue set in 1993, reminds you that it takes place in 1994.

Godzilla is very fast:

So are the human characters. You just watch how quick she's gone:

Lastly:

There are a handful of double page spreads in the comic. However they formatted it, most are split like this.

 

[glass_houses]

On the topic of Godzilla and the subtle arts of comic creation: I ran into the graphic novelization of the unmade american film from 1994. Godzilla '94, or, Godzilla: Burn 'n' Dodge.

http://americankaiju.kaijuphile.com/american-godzilla94/

Spoiler

Pieces of movie script copied and pasted as redundant captions, also unexpected celebrity appearances:

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L33t photoshop skillz:

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Also, almost every scene change, apart from the prologue set in 1993, reminds you that it takes place in 1994.

Godzilla is very fast:

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So are the human characters. You just watch how quick she's gone:

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Lastly:

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There are a handful of double page spreads in the comic. However they formatted it, most are split like this.

Well, this looks interesting. Thank you for the new reading material.

 

[DaBigBopper]

I really need to stop checking what the fuck is going on in the Big Two. It just makes me sigh and go back to my manga backlog.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

I really need to stop checking what the fuck is going on in the Big Two. It just makes me sigh and go back to my manga backlog.

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Hey, the perfect representation of a troon! How come we haven't seen any Marvel troons that want to slough off the skin of female characters and wear it as their own, like Aztec priests?

 

[Water-T]

Hey, the perfect representation of a troon! How come we haven't seen any Marvel troons that want to slough off the skin of female characters and wear it as their own, like Aztec priests?

That robot is actually Moira MacTaggart. After reliving her life over and over again 10 times trying to stop humans and robots from exterminating mutants, she ended up becoming a flatscan human and then a robot that wants to exterminate mutants.

This is both stupid and brilliant at the same time.

 

[Little Red Corvette]

That robot is actually Moira MacTaggart. After reliving her life over and over again 10 times trying to stop humans and robots from exterminating mutants, she ended up becoming a flatscan human and then a robot that wants to exterminate mutants.

This is both stupid and brilliant at the same time.

the more i known about modern x-men comics, the less i wanna read it. for me that story ended with X-Men(1991) 3 and nothing is gonna change my mind

 

[Water-T]

the more i known about modern x-men comics, the less i wanna read it. for me that story ended with X-Men(1991) 3 and nothing is gonna change my mind

There was a series (two, actually) called "X-Men Forever" where Claremont wrote the stories he planned to write until he got shitcanned from the series after issue 3.

Tl;DR; Mutants are dying from "burnout"; the more they use their abilities, the more they shorten their life. Chucky gets imprisoned in space by the Shiar for crimes against their kingdom. Wolverine gets fried to death by Storm, who is evil now (something to do with evil clones). Sabretooth gets his eyes melted and can't grow them back due to burnout, and joins the team to avenge Wolverine, who is revealed to be his son. Due to a power fuckup caused by Fabian Cortez, Kitty ends up with some of Wolverine's healing powers and one of his claws. Nightcrawler and Rogue end up swapping powers and appearances. Mystique also joins, and her shifting powers make her immune to burnout since she "resets" her cellular structure every time she morphs. Gambit switches to a suit and tie with red shades for some reason, and now looks like Cyclops if he was starring in American Gigolo.

As for the main X-Men canon, Xavier turned Krakoa into it an independent sovereign nation. It produces drugs that extend lifespans by 5 years, cures cancer, and cures mental disabilities. Mutants that died can be resurrected by 5 particular mutants using the abilities together to clone a new body and download "backup" copies of their minds into them. Scarlet Witch faked her death as part of an elaborate ploy to redeem herself by allowing ALL mutants that died prior to their minds getting backed up by Cerebro (like Thunderbird) to now be resurrected as well. Twelve mutants run everything as the Quiet Council: Xavier, Emma Frost. Hope Summers, Destiny, Mystique, Kate Pryde, Mister Sinister, Exodus, Nightcrawler, Storm, Sebastian Shaw, and Colossus. Magneto, Apocalypse, and Jean Grey retired from seats recently.

This all stemmed from Moira revealing that she is a mutant with two powers: to be shielded from detection as a mutant (including psychics, who can only "see" her past memories if she allows it) and that every time she dies, that timeline dies with her and then she relives her life all over again while retaining all memory of her past lives. At this point, she has "lived" 10 lives, all where she failed to stop humans from extermination the mutant race, and its apparent that mankind will combine with the Phalanx to evolve into "Homo Novissima", and that no matter what she tries, humans and machines always win. Unfortunately, her plot involved faking her death, staying hidden under the island, and making herself known only to Erik and Chuck, and preventing all precogs (like Destiny) from getting resurrected. This back fired badly when Mystique tricked her way into getting Destiny brought back. Them they exposed everything that Mags and Chucky covered up, depowered Moira, and this eventually led to Moira joining forces with Nimrod and Omega Sentinel.

Oh, and it's a crime to kill humans, which results in being buried alive under the island forever, where Sabretooth is now rotting. Also, Nightcrawler declared "LET US FUCK" and make more mutant babies.

 

[Kup]

There was a series (two, actually) called "X-Men Forever" where Claremont wrote the stories he planned to write until he got shitcanned from the series after issue 3.

Tl;DR; Mutants are dying from "burnout"; the more they use their abilities, the more they shorten their life. Chucky gets imprisoned in space by the Shiar for crimes against their kingdom. Wolverine gets fried to death by Storm, who is evil now (something to do with evil clones). Sabretooth gets his eyes melted and can't grow them back due to burnout, and joins the team to avenge Wolverine, who is revealed to be his son. Due to a power fuckup caused by Fabian Cortez, Kitty ends up with some of Wolverine's healing powers and one of his claws. Nightcrawler and Rogue end up swapping powers and appearances. Mystique also joins, and her shifting powers make her immune to burnout since she "resets" her cellular structure every time she morphs. Gambit switches to a suit and tie with red shades for some reason, and now looks like Cyclops if he was starring in American Gigolo.

As for the main X-Men canon, Xavier turned Krakoa into it an independent sovereign nation. It produces drugs that extend lifespans by 5 years, cures cancer, and cures mental disabilities. Mutants that died can be resurrected by 5 particular mutants using the abilities together to clone a new body and download "backup" copies of their minds into them. Scarlet Witch faked her death as part of an elaborate ploy to redeem herself by allowing ALL mutants that died prior to their minds getting backed up by Cerebro (like Thunderbird) to now be resurrected as well. Twelve mutants run everything as the Quiet Council: Xavier, Emma Frost. Hope Summers, Destiny, Mystique, Kate Pryde, Mister Sinister, Exodus, Nightcrawler, Storm, Sebastian Shaw, and Colossus. Magneto, Apocalypse, and Jean Grey retired from seats recently.

This all stemmed from Moira revealing that she is a mutant with two powers: to be shielded from detection as a mutant (including psychics, who can only "see" her past memories if she allows it) and that every time she dies, that timeline dies with her and then she relives her life all over again while retaining all memory of her past lives. At this point, she has "lived" 10 lives, all where she failed to stop humans from extermination the mutant race, and its apparent that mankind will combine with the Phalanx to evolve into "Homo Novissima", and that no matter what she tries, humans and machines always win. Unfortunately, her plot involved faking her death, staying hidden under the island, and making herself known only to Erik and Chuck, and preventing all precogs (like Destiny) from getting resurrected. This back fired badly when Mystique tricked her way into getting Destiny brought back. Them they exposed everything that Mags and Chucky covered up, depowered Moira, and this eventually led to Moira joining forces with Nimrod and Omega Sentinel.

Oh, and it's a crime to kill humans, which results in being buried alive under the island forever, where Sabretooth is now rotting. Also, Nightcrawler declared "LET US FUCK" and make more mutant babies.

The Sentinel Program was self defence from mutie Israel.

Which is a cult possibly led by the Maker (Krakoa is pretty much one of his experiments from Ultimate.)

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Good news! Rocket's son is autistic, as in the type that screeches when they leave home without their hat and likes to pass the time spinning wheels on their toy cars. Episode 18 is also dedicated to the memory of Rene Auberjonois, which is cool and all but he died 3 years ago which, when combined with the series' very erratic release schedule, tells me that this stuff has probably been in development hell for a while. Something just ain't tell I tell ya hwat.

Having watched some clips of it on YouTube, I get the feeling that the writers are trying to draw parallels between Amistad and Orion. Particularly when Orion went berserk. So does that mean Orion is now the God of Autism?

 

[SheerHeartAttack]

Man that shit about Savage Dragon makes me want to know what other crazy shit happens in these companies. Plus you got a bunch of manchildren ruining comics to make them into what they were like when they were children (see: One More Day).

 

[DaBigBopper]

There was a series (two, actually) called "X-Men Forever" where Claremont wrote the stories he planned to write until he got shitcanned from the series after issue 3.

Tl;DR; Mutants are dying from "burnout"; the more they use their abilities, the more they shorten their life. Chucky gets imprisoned in space by the Shiar for crimes against their kingdom. Wolverine gets fried to death by Storm, who is evil now (something to do with evil clones). Sabretooth gets his eyes melted and can't grow them back due to burnout, and joins the team to avenge Wolverine, who is revealed to be his son. Due to a power fuckup caused by Fabian Cortez, Kitty ends up with some of Wolverine's healing powers and one of his claws. Nightcrawler and Rogue end up swapping powers and appearances. Mystique also joins, and her shifting powers make her immune to burnout since she "resets" her cellular structure every time she morphs. Gambit switches to a suit and tie with red shades for some reason, and now looks like Cyclops if he was starring in American Gigolo.

As for the main X-Men canon, Xavier turned Krakoa into it an independent sovereign nation. It produces drugs that extend lifespans by 5 years, cures cancer, and cures mental disabilities. Mutants that died can be resurrected by 5 particular mutants using the abilities together to clone a new body and download "backup" copies of their minds into them. Scarlet Witch faked her death as part of an elaborate ploy to redeem herself by allowing ALL mutants that died prior to their minds getting backed up by Cerebro (like Thunderbird) to now be resurrected as well. Twelve mutants run everything as the Quiet Council: Xavier, Emma Frost. Hope Summers, Destiny, Mystique, Kate Pryde, Mister Sinister, Exodus, Nightcrawler, Storm, Sebastian Shaw, and Colossus. Magneto, Apocalypse, and Jean Grey retired from seats recently.

This all stemmed from Moira revealing that she is a mutant with two powers: to be shielded from detection as a mutant (including psychics, who can only "see" her past memories if she allows it) and that every time she dies, that timeline dies with her and then she relives her life all over again while retaining all memory of her past lives. At this point, she has "lived" 10 lives, all where she failed to stop humans from extermination the mutant race, and its apparent that mankind will combine with the Phalanx to evolve into "Homo Novissima", and that no matter what she tries, humans and machines always win. Unfortunately, her plot involved faking her death, staying hidden under the island, and making herself known only to Erik and Chuck, and preventing all precogs (like Destiny) from getting resurrected. This back fired badly when Mystique tricked her way into getting Destiny brought back. Them they exposed everything that Mags and Chucky covered up, depowered Moira, and this eventually led to Moira joining forces with Nimrod and Omega Sentinel.

Oh, and it's a crime to kill humans, which results in being buried alive under the island forever, where Sabretooth is now rotting. Also, Nightcrawler declared "LET US FUCK" and make more mutant babies.

Krakoa is proof that anyone who talked shit about Mutants was 100%, right. Even the Purifiers are their retarded Fedora-imagined version of Christianity is somehow right that Mutants are immoral decadents here to drive mankind to hell. They invited like 7 mutant Hitlers and given them not just protection, but status and political power. Under a better editor I would assume this was a parody of the last decade and a half of X-Men comics where the X-Men invite their enemies to join them and then get pissy when someone calls them out.

It's a weird wet dream for twitter socialists. They're weird degenerates who don't play by their own rules and are self-described oppressed minorities who have all this money and power and mutant identity is basically akin to sexual/gender and racial identities. The killing human thing is selectively enforced and the current writers just don't have any clue what the fuck they're doing.
There's an AI vs organics thing that isn't interesting because it presumes some bullshit about the AI singularity, but it forgets Ultron and the Sentinels have never been threatening beyond the one movie where they've mass produced machines that are way too effective for mass produced machines except in a world where Magneto killed off an absurd number of people and humans decided to finish what Hitler started.
It just feels like a masturbatory arc where the 'X-Men' are winning, but any character who had a life outside of being a mutant has been stripped of non-mutant friends and goals.

 

[Kup]

Krakoa is proof that anyone who talked shit about Mutants was 100%, right. Even the Purifiers are their retarded Fedora-imagined version of Christianity is somehow right that Mutants are immoral decadents here to drive mankind to hell. They invited like 7 mutant Hitlers and given them not just protection, but status and political power. Under a better editor I would assume this was a parody of the last decade and a half of X-Men comics where the X-Men invite their enemies to join them and then get pissy when someone calls them out.

It's a weird wet dream for twitter socialists. They're weird degenerates who don't play by their own rules and are self-described oppressed minorities who and mutant identity is basically akin to sexual/gender and racial identities. The killing human thing is selectively enforced and the current writers just don't have any clue what the fuck they're doing.
There's an AI vs organics thing that isn't interesting because it presumes some bullshit about the AI singularity, but it forgets Ultron and the Sentinels have never been threatening beyond the one movie where they've mass produced machines that are way to effective for mass produced machines except in a world where Magneto killed off an absurd number of people and humans decided to finish what Hitler started.
It just feels like a masturbatory arc where the 'X-Men' are winning, but any character who had a life outside of being a mutant has been stripped of non-mutant friends and goals.

Mutants deserve to be culled, modern Marvel has created an X-Men status quo where they are all morally reprehensible degenerate racists who apply selective morality based on species.

Every “villain” who advocated for mutant genocide was 100% right, Kang, Osborn, Trask. Ahab, Kelly and so many more have been vindicated.

 

[uberzilla]

I gave up on comics somewhere around the time they replaced the Avengers with more "diverse" equivalents. Female Thor, black Captain America, Asian Hulk etc. Looking back, they were basically pioneers of taking a beloved franchise and screwing with it, thinking people would just have to put up with it because hey, it's Jane Foster as Thor or no Thor at all.

I enjoyed Immortal Hulk quite a bit up until the random trans character who could uniquely resist Xemnu's global brainwashing because... they were trans. The new Hulk series had a lot to live up to and it's trash. Retreading the same ground as Kluh with Titan, noticeably crappier art, some weird link to Celestials. Same thing happened with Venom that they have to go back and explain the origins with Knull and each time it makes the character worse.

It just makes me sigh and go back to my manga backlog.

I know that feeling all too well.