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Doom Patrol Troon died. They passed well because they looked like an Auschwitz survivor and were a senior citizen.

The run they did was ultimately underwhelming and they really didn’t pull off the “heroes being heroes, but interspersed with slice of life”. Doom Patrol was a series where a former Steam/ Skype/ Discord friend kept bugging me about reading.
I feel like super heroes as a whole is less of a genre, but everyday people have an extraordinary part of their life rather than some faggot joins a government special police force. It’s ultimately more of a plot element than a genre. Doom Patrol just reminds me of faggots who made me watch Evangelion.
 
The 94 Reboot started strong but it was clear that the bullshit of Waid and the Bierbaums (IE anyone not part of the Adventure Comics era team were illegitimate and Waid's mancrush on Lyle Norg and the shitting on Lighting Lad) was still in full effect.
I find it jarring what the Bierbaums did to Timber Wolf because he was introduced in the Adventure era and joined the team towards its end. Then again Keith Giffen has voiced his distaste for Karate Kid and made it clear that he would kill him the first chance he got. Val got an awesome sendoff in the first V3 arc, but his SW6 counterpart died an inglorious (off-panel, I believe) death.

The Legion is a trainwreck; some good ideas but also some bullshit ones. IE Sneckie turning into a naga and her going insane at no longer being a full-on snake. And the less said the better about Superboy or DNA bastardizing the Great Darkness Saga with their remake of it, which was so fucking bad that it made the Quiet Darkness seem like high art.
Hindsight being 20/20, I wonder why DnA used Ra's Al Ghul as the main villain for the first arc of The Legion when it probably would have made more sense to use Vandal Savage. Conceptually it would have been more interesting with his battles with the JSA representing the past, the JLA the present, and the Legion the future.

Yeah. They shot themselves in the face with that. After years of dark, mature, continuity heavy stories; Legionaires with art by Sprouse was like a breath of fresh air. Of course people would demand that.
This was something I didn't notice until Alex Ross pointed out until his Kingdom Come sketches. The SW6/Post-ZH costume designs largely had a simplified semi-unified design with three vertical stripes plus insignia look (with some exceptions) that I dug.

That said, I also appreciate how the SW6 title fleshed out Ferro a little more since his older counterpart had the shorted tenure of any Legionnaire. Not so much a fan of his reboot counterpart.
 
Who could forget this panel.
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Why the fuck can't there be more GROO?
 
Doom Patrol Troon died. They passed well because they looked like an Auschwitz survivor and were a senior citizen.

The run they did was ultimately underwhelming and they really didn’t pull off the “heroes being heroes, but interspersed with slice of life”. Doom Patrol was a series where a former Steam/ Skype/ Discord friend kept bugging me about reading.
I feel like super heroes as a whole is less of a genre, but everyday people have an extraordinary part of their life rather than some faggot joins a government special police force. It’s ultimately more of a plot element than a genre. Doom Patrol just reminds me of faggots who made me watch Evangelion.
What the devil are you talking about? The actor who played Moira Lee? Or are you talking about Rachel Pollack's self-insert character Coagula, who was killed off ages ago in the as of yet reprinted Arcudi Doom Patrol run?

I find it jarring what the Bierbaums did to Timber Wolf because he was introduced in the Adventure era and joined the team towards its end.
Timber Wolf doesn't formally join until Superboy and the Legion #197. Hence him not being a "proper LSHer" in the eyes of the Bierbaums and Waid, as they don't care/give a fuck about the various hangers on just the core Adventure Comics era cast as being "the real Legion"
 
What the devil are you talking about? The actor who played Moira Lee? Or are you talking about Rachel Pollack's self-insert character Coagula, who was killed off ages ago in the as of yet reprinted Arcudi Doom Patrol run?


Timber Wolf doesn't formally join until Superboy and the Legion #197. Hence him not being a "proper LSHer" in the eyes of the Bierbaums and Waid, as they don't care/give a fuck about the various hangers on just the core Adventure Comics era cast as being "the real Legion"
one of the writers died. Rachel Pollack I believe?
 
Timber Wolf doesn't formally join until Superboy and the Legion #197. Hence him not being a "proper LSHer" in the eyes of the Bierbaums and Waid, as they don't care/give a fuck about the various hangers on just the core Adventure Comics era cast as being "the real Legion"
The sources I looked at state that TW joined in Adventure Comics #372.
 
What the devil are you talking about? The actor who played Moira Lee? Or are you talking about Rachel Pollack's self-insert character Coagula, who was killed off ages ago in the as of yet reprinted Arcudi Doom Patrol run?


Timber Wolf doesn't formally join until Superboy and the Legion #197. Hence him not being a "proper LSHer" in the eyes of the Bierbaums and Waid, as they don't care/give a fuck about the various hangers on just the core Adventure Comics era cast as being "the real Legion"
He's talking about Pollack, who died a couple days ago
Yeah, that troon. I had a few people badger me about the Grant Morrison run and then the troon.

Comics fans online are people who are fine with it being a medium that doesn’t take itself too seriously like manga and faggots chasing validation of their hobby. The Doom Patrolfags are Evafags. They push artsy shit and Deconstructions so that ‘comics will be taken seriously as a medium.’
I don’t like Morrison. He comes off as a huge fag.
 
My current reading is the old Indiana Jones comics. Pretty good stuff, more than one of those original stories would have made a good movie if Ford, Spielberg and Lucas hadn't stopped at Last Crusade.
Fun fact: Marvel had such a hard time with their Indiana Jones comic that it led to Marvel saying "fuck it" and sitting on the rights for ages rather than making comics with the IP.

(Both Lucas and Spielberg had to give approval for all scripts and artwork and they kept rejecting scripts left and right and demanding artwork redone; to the point that everyone involved in the series ended up hating Lucas and Spielberg's guts and was one of the reasons Marvel said "fuck it" and hired Cynthia Martin to draw the last year's worth of Star Wars comics, largely as an institutional "fuck you" to Lucas by putting on someone who basically drew the Star Wars cast like anime characters instead of the way Lucas had informally insisted they be drawn as)
 
For light comic-book reading an hour before bed, or after waking up I figured I'd start the Gwenpool omnibus. It sure is chaotic enough, and the art isn't putting me off for now. Not sure I'll stick with it for the full 1000 pages, but who knows. Browsing through some recent iterations of certain comic book series such as Batgirl, I am left to wonder what the hell is going on with the art. It looks so ... stylized and "clean", for lack of a better word. The covers for some of the trade paperbacks are just god-awful. I hope this is only a phase but it'll probably evolve into something worse.
 
My current reading is the old Indiana Jones comics. Pretty good stuff, more than one of those original stories would have made a good movie if Ford, Spielberg and Lucas hadn't stopped at Last Crusade.

Have you read Doc Savage?

For light comic-book reading an hour before bed, or after waking up I figured I'd start the Gwenpool omnibus. It sure is chaotic enough, and the art isn't putting me off for now. Not sure I'll stick with it for the full 1000 pages, but who knows. Browsing through some recent iterations of certain comic book series such as Batgirl, I am left to wonder what the hell is going on with the art. It looks so ... stylized and "clean", for lack of a better word. The covers for some of the trade paperbacks are just god-awful. I hope this is only a phase but it'll probably evolve into something worse.

Gwenpool by Hastings and Gurihiru was actually good despite being a vanity project by Heather Antos.

All the Legion talk got me to go dig through some of the old stuff.

End of an Era​

Mark Waid is more or less the central thread of the End of an Era LOSH run. He was put on Valor, a book spinning off of Robert Loren Flemmings Eclipso crossover, in 1993.

#9 features a wonderful cover by Adam Hughes and is a very fun almost retro comic book considering it's place in the middle of the grim and gritty 90s. Waid's rendition of Valor works in part because this version is more of an immature hothead, perhaps Waid connected on that level?

#10 and 11 finish up plots and set up the books final arc as the lead serum fails Valor. This all winds up to the DOA arc.

#12-17. I really forgot how much I liked this. It's messy and sloppy, but Lar really goes through a heroes journey over these issues. His development as well as the bait and switch with Glorith was well executed. You get the idea that he's tempted by Glorith and that Glorith genuinely cares about this version of Lar. The artwork switches to Coleen Doran half way through and I have to say she sales the ghastly final days of Lar as he refuses to stop being a hero even if it means dying.

#18-21 Aftermath. This is were the confusing time stuff happens. By killing Lar's past self, Waid contorts himself to right things; introducing another Lar more in line with his original incarnation and helped by the LOSH. Busiek takes over scripting after one issue and Doran provides continuity. The story ends solidly with the heart rending isolation of Lar for the time until he is removed by the LOSH in the future.

While this happened, the Bierbums had ended/been replaced on LOSH by Tom McCraw, a long time colorist for the series. He wrote the main book until Waid joined him on LOSH #59 and Legionnaires #16, resolving numerous convoluted story lines in a continuity with not one but two teams of identical members with decades of stories; some retconned, some erased, and some left unchanged.

Obviously the next six issues, two of Valor, LOSH, and Legionnaires are dense, confusing, and a little emotional. After this, nothing would be the same. DC comics has never found its way back to this point. Not when bringing old creators back. Not when trying to hand wave things. My favorite moments are probably Lar, at the end of his tether and about to disappear urging them forward and swearing he'll find Shadow Lass and the last moments of the big 3.
 
I wanna get back into comics but every comic I've read in recent years either has a random "heavy" arc where one or more characters are brutally raped/tortured and everyone else starts shitting and puking everywhere, a jumpscare issue with randomly horrible pencils, or it just sucks all around. I might check in on 90s Image again or catch up on the Fables issues I missed.
 
I wanna get back into comics but every comic I've read in recent years either has a random "heavy" arc where one or more characters are brutally raped/tortured and everyone else starts shitting and puking everywhere, a jumpscare issue with randomly horrible pencils, or it just sucks all around. I might check in on 90s Image again or catch up on the Fables issues I missed.
Everyone wants a Sin Eater Arc without putting in the effort to build up their Jean DeWolff getting shot and then having a Red Hearing. You also have filler issues where the hero/ protagonist is till working through their issues.
 
I want to post this here since there is no where else to post it on kiwifarms for this.
Someone on 4chan manage to upload all of the original newspaper issues of Tintin in The Land of the Soviets
This was Tintin's first adventure and while it's definitely not Herge's best work it's not as bad as people make it out to be.
Herge was still trying to figure out how to write and draw Tintin and he had to start somewhere before the series could evolved into something we are more familiar with.
Also that live meet up on may 8th 1930 with that actor that played Tintin at the end of the story at the at the gare du Nord sounded like a fun event to go and see in person.
 
I wanna get back into comics but every comic I've read in recent years either has a random "heavy" arc where one or more characters are brutally raped/tortured and everyone else starts shitting and puking everywhere, a jumpscare issue with randomly horrible pencils, or it just sucks all around. I might check in on 90s Image again or catch up on the Fables issues I missed.
I'm the same. Went into a comic shop yesterday, flipped through stuff, nothing grabbed me. A lot of the artwork looks weak and the fact that I've been out of the loop for almost five years makes the idea of getting back in unappealing. I've just been re-reading old Chuck Dixon runs. Also found the omnibus editions I had for Peter David's Fallen Angel series. Not bad.
 
I'm the same. Went into a comic shop yesterday, flipped through stuff, nothing grabbed me. A lot of the artwork looks weak and the fact that I've been out of the loop for almost five years makes the idea of getting back in unappealing. I've just been re-reading old Chuck Dixon runs. Also found the omnibus editions I had for Peter David's Fallen Angel series. Not bad.
I honestly feel like it's historically the bulk of comics, so it always feels like much bigger of a gamble than most mediums I enjoy. I read some of the Tomb Raider reboot comics recently and I wasn't expecting genius given the games, but dogshit is an understatement. I think what I find most appealing about 90s Image is that while it's pretty mundane, it's at least not super gritty or trying to preach about anything. I've always meant to read Project Superpowers so that might be fun too.
 
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