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Markorian said:
Japan is the second largest market for consoles in the world (and largest per capita). All sony had to do in order to maintain at absolute worst a VERY comfortable second place in that market was nothing. Literally nothing. Instead, the newly in charge california side of things decided to antagonize Japan, both developers and customers, at every possible opportunity, to zero purpose or gain, in some weird form of power play and gloating. In addition to forcing every japanese ps5 release to conform to californian censorship sensibilities, they mandated all communication was done in english (despite having japanese translators on staff) and done during california hours, often at 2-3 am in Japan. In a move of unbelievable pettiness, they mandated that the X and O buttons have their functionality switched to be in line with how western studios do their button layouts, even though the controller itself was literally designed with the explicit purpose of O being your default "accept" button and X being your default "decline" button. Culturally, it would be like if china started mandating that when we make checklists, we use check marks for the incomplete tasks rather than the complete ones, "because that's how they do it over there".
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Where have I heard this before? Didn't Sega famously fuck up due to their American headquarters fucking things up and ta king the Dreamcast?
 
The Doom Slayer said:
Sony just terminated their partnership with Kojima on his next game.

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...and Xbox has picked it up.

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“History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”
-Mark Twain

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Not shocked at all, Wolverine has looked like UE slop since the first reveal. Half Spiderman, half GoW, all boring Sonytemplate slop.

Wolverine himself also looks like total shit, both in and out of the mask. His face looks soft, and the mask makes his head look strange. Being mocapped by a woman is the icing on the cake.
 
some dumb cunt said:
qft. kojimbo raised expectations with that initial quote, only for the reveal to be the equivalent of a napkin note saying "she breathes through her skin"
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“you will be ashamed of your words and deeds” would’ve retroactively hit like a freight train if the reason had literally been “an ideal human female figure certainly can be worth drooling over, what, wanna fight about it?” with no further elaboration or defense. Quiet could’ve double-tapped MeToo in the dome before it got out of the crib and we could all be living in space right now.
 
The goystation 6 can't flop soon enough. I hope they charge $1200 for it and make games cost $90. Digital only as well.

:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:
 
sarna said:
4K asset generation costs a triple fucking shitload. IIIRC the Insomniac leaks said it ballooned up the budget of Spider-Man 2 by something like $150 million.
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Can't AI assist here and drastically bring the price down? From what I understand a lot of this work is repetive and follows established patterns, something AI can easily do.
 
>Marathon flops
>Wolverine flops
>Ghost of [sequel] is well regarded but doesn't massively move the needle, gets restricted from being on Steam
>no real games coming soon to save them
>already the 'gta6 and sports games' box of choice with consumers

With their recent string of issues I too wouldn't give some artsy hack endless money to make what'll probably be a Death Stranding at best, a weird WEIRD game people probably enjoy but isn't a system seller.

Nobody was gonna buy a ps6 just to play a Kojima game. They're just gonna to let gta6 and Fifa sell their console for them. Funding a third party game wasn't going to help turn profits around.
 
Mister Fister said:
Can't AI assist here and drastically bring the price down? From what I understand a lot of this work is repetive and follows established patterns, something AI can easily do.
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I think shit like the GTA AE proved that you still need to have humans proof and clean up afterward. I’m sure there’s been a good deal of calculation into working on finding the most cost-effective balance but AI is used daily in my industry and two sets of human eyes are mandatory for just about anything before it’s signed off as complete. Depending on the length of the project you may as well have people do it from the get-go.
 
Pargon said:
“you will be ashamed of your words and deeds” would’ve retroactively hit like a freight train if the reason had literally been “an ideal human female figure certainly can be worth drooling over, what, wanna fight about it?” with no further elaboration or defense. Quiet could’ve double-tapped MeToo in the dome before it got out of the crib and we could all be living in space right now.
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Joosten is such a trooper too. If Ellen Paige had been molested by David Cage even a 1/10th as much as Kojima creeped on Joosten, she would have pooned out AND 41%'d a decade ago.
 
Gas Snake said:
Joosten is such a trooper too. If Ellen Paige had been molested by David Cage even a 1/10th as much as Kojima creeped on Joosten, she would have pooned out AND 41%'d a decade ago.
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And in that scenario we’d have had Joosten in a game with a broke-ass camera that you could’ve used to perform a virtual proctology examination on her
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Whiskey said:
Metal Gear solid honestly should be attributed to the utterly cursed salary man that had to wrangle Kojima during its production otherwise it would just be softcore gay porn and nonsense.
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He couldn't do shit for that script, though.

"Have Snake restate what the previous speaker just said as a question. I am a genius and definitely not a faggot high off his own farts." -Hideo Kojima, probably.
Jace on ice said:
Yes, Per IGN Wolverine had a 310 million dev budget, probably 400+ million with marketing.

If sales are bad enough this has the potential to be another Concord.
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I hope it is. Because fuck Soyny.
 
Pargon said:
I think shit like the GTA AE proved that you still need to have humans proof and clean up afterward. I’m sure there’s been a good deal of calculation into working on finding the most cost-effective balance but AI is used daily in my industry and two sets of human eyes are mandatory for just about anything before it’s signed off as complete. Depending on the length of the project you may as well have people do it from the get-go.
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Interesting, I also know that these boondoggles started before generative AI took off as well. I know DLSS 5 is also coming here for assistance in this as well.
 
Margo Martindale said:
Where have I heard this before? Didn't Sega famously fuck up due to their American headquarters fucking things up and ta king the Dreamcast?
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Sega of America famously bungled the Saturn launch in the North American market by giving preferential "early access" to certain retailers and completely excluding the rest, who responded by refusing to stock and sell the Saturn when Sega finally got around to "allowing" them to do so. That further hurt sales amid an already lukewarm reception of the Saturn by the public in general, who were still stinging from the Sega CD and 32X add-ons for the Genesis (which Sega had repeatedly pitched as "stopgaps" for gamers who wanted 32-bit "power" but couldn't afford a Saturn), seeing how poorly-supported both products were with very few games published for each (with only a fraction of those few being noteworthy at all, much less worth owning/playing).

By the time the poor Dreamcast came along, which was itself a home run in terms of hardware performance of the era, there was so much ill will in the NA market for Sega that its sales just flatlined from the moment it launched here. Sega didn't exactly stack the deck in the Dreamcast's favor either; there's some groundbreaking games on Dreamcast and a good handful of enduring classics, but very few system sellers or "killer apps" ever shipped. They wasted the lead they had on Nintendo, Sony and then-newcomer Microsoft, and the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube all launched a year or two after Dreamcast did, utterly crushing it. Retailers never embraced it either (still stinging from the Saturn debacle).

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Mister Fister said:
Can't AI assist here and drastically bring the price down? From what I understand a lot of this work is repetive and follows established patterns, something AI can easily do.
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That would require 1) admitting their devs are overpaid, 2) acknowledging AI slop is cheaper than paying them, 3) actually passing genuine cost savings on to the customer, which businesses famously do so rarely it's a literal marketing coup when a business actually does it and gets to brag about it.

They'll never do the first two, since it would give devs leverage to sue, unionize and otherwise whine about their shit industry. And nobody ever does the third either. Reduced costs means "increased profit margin," never "increased total profit via more sales driven by advertised price cuts fueled by cost reductions." Businesses are greedy and fucking stupid.
 
I realize this is stupid question.. Don't really know how it all works, but just because Sony not publishing/developing Physint, this doesn't exactly mean it will be exclusive to Xbox only when it releases, does it? The game itself could still be multiplatform, right?
 
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