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Kojima has become a Westaboo hack lost in his own sauce, but he built the very foundations of modern playstation with MGS1 in 1998. Sony owe him their entire system's success at the time. Everyone bought a PSOne for either Tomb Raider or MGS. Them torching him is them torching their roots.
 
Parasite Paracide said:
Kojima has become a Westaboo hack lost in his own sauce, but he built the very foundations of modern playstation with MGS1 in 1998. Sony owe him their entire system's success at the time. Everyone bought a PSOne for either Tomb Raider or MGS. Them torching him is them torching their roots.
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Metal Gear Solid definitely was big on Playstation

But Final Fantasy VII was the *big* system seller.
 
My assumption based on how much game Sony got for Death Stranding 2 and it's sales is Kojima pulled a diva and demanded a way larger budget the same way he did on mgsV multiple times. So, instead of releasing 1/3 a game like Konami had to, Sony saw the writing on the wall and cut their loses because the game will never be profitable.

Microsoft meanwhile can afford to dump money into it the same way Sony did Death Stranding 1, so they can say they have a Kojima game regardless of quality.
 
DiabeticSydePhil said:
My assumption based on how much game Sony got for Death Stranding 2 and it's sales is Kojima pulled a diva and demanded a way larger budget the same way he did on mgsV multiple times. So, instead of releasing 1/3 a game like Konami had to, Sony saw the writing on the wall and cut their loses because the game will never be profitable.

Microsoft meanwhile can afford to dump money into it the same way Sony did Death Stranding 1, so they can say they have a Kojima game regardless of quality.
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Knowing how Sony is insisting on being champions of slamming their dick in the car door, they probably demanded his next game must become live service and he threw a fit.

Problematic User Forever said:
Metal Gear Solid definitely was big on Playstation

But Final Fantasy VII was the *big* system seller.
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And now even Final Fantasy has moved away from Sony because staying a PS exclusive is no longer viable, nor will anything be good enough to be a system seller.
 
Now if only Xbox completely scrapped OD...
I loved Death Stranding 1 and enjoyed the 2nd game enough but making a game with Jordan Peele and Hunter Schafer is like you're specifically crafting it to be as shitty as possible.
 
evrae said:
Knowing how Sony is insisting on being champions of slamming their dick in the car door, they probably demanded his next game must become live service and he threw a fit.
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I doubt it if only because they were hands off the last two games and he blew the budget making a bare bones walking sim that hired his favorite vtuber and actor buddies.

When's the last time Kojima made a game on time and under budget? mgs 2? MGS 3 had production issues (but was good), mgs 4 was bad, and mgs v barely released at all and thats AFTER ground zero made you pay for a demo (which had all its features cut to make the fox engine work at all on a large map).

Sony's already stuck with a money pit in Bungie. They can't afford to burn money on two projects right now. The smart move was to pay a different studio to make a mgs like game in a new IP and let Kojima make whatever weird unmarketable bullshit he wants on a tight budget.
 
evrae said:
And now even Final Fantasy has moved away from Sony because staying a PS exclusive is no longer viable, nor will anything be good enough to be a system seller.
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I mean, Sony and Microsoft basically completely flipped the board with the PS4/Xbox One

Final Fantasy VII was the second high selling game on the playstation, basically a super huge success and it only sold 10 million copies. Metal Gear Solid sold 7 million on the Playstation.

Those numbers are nothing now. What would have been the "AAA" of those generations is barely anything now. And that's why so many other developers had to move onto mobile and portable gaming (and you could make the argument about how the Switch capitalized on it as well)
 
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Jaimas said:
Short version: Sony gave SIE carte blanche to do anything to bolster the PS brand. SIE purchased failing lefty identity politics-driven studios and mandated that Japanese studios had to undergo content analysis in the US and in English, even if the games were intended to release only in Japan, and only course corrected after almost half a decade of them fucking the situation hard enough to crack the floorboards.
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Japan is the second largest market for consoles in the world (and largest per capita). All sony had to do in order to maintain at absolute worst a VERY comfortable second place in that market was nothing. Literally nothing. Instead, the newly in charge california side of things decided to antagonize Japan, both developers and customers, at every possible opportunity, to zero purpose or gain, in some weird form of power play and gloating. In addition to forcing every japanese ps5 release to conform to californian censorship sensibilities, they mandated all communication was done in english (despite having japanese translators on staff) and done during california hours, often at 2-3 am in Japan. In a move of unbelievable pettiness, they mandated that the X and O buttons have their functionality switched to be in line with how western studios do their button layouts, even though the controller itself was literally designed with the explicit purpose of O being your default "accept" button and X being your default "decline" button. Culturally, it would be like if china started mandating that when we make checklists, we use check marks for the incomplete tasks rather than the complete ones, "because that's how they do it over there".
 
This doesn't add up. Sony can work with obnoxious people that call themselves "The Professor" and spend money on a ton of bullshit LS games that will never see profit. As bad as Kojima can be, he has a fanbase and a decent track record in gaming. He was one of their safer bets. Either Sony is hurting for money this much or they are being stupid again. You can't tell me that Kojima is worse than the woke live service guys.
 
Incecticyder said:
This doesn't add up. Sony can work with obnoxious people that call themselves "The Professor" and spend money on a ton of bullshit LS games that will never see profit. As bad as Kojima can be, he has a fanbase and a decent track record in gaming. He was one of their safer bets. Either Sony is hurting for money this much or they are being stupid again. You can't tell me that Kojima is worse than the woke live service guys.
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Yeah, if this were any other company in gaming I'd shrug it off and say "Fair enough, could have used some better optics though". It's just that  THIS of all things is apparently their line in the sand?
 
evrae said:
And now even Final Fantasy has moved away from Sony because staying a PS exclusive is no longer viable, nor will anything be good enough to be a system seller.
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To be fair even going multiplat Square Enix consistently insists their games didn't meet projected sales.

Besides 14 which is dropping players due to how bad Dawntrail was, I can't think of the last Final Fantasy game SE announced sold numbers they were happy with.
 
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Not even a Wario Shoveitupyourownass game smh
 
Xbox gave up all of their exclusives like what 7 years ago and now Sony doesn't really have any apeal of what consoles used to be loved for
Exclusive games, phisycal media and put the game and play with no hustle
Console age is long gone my friends
 
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