Sony hate thread

Markorian said:
Well, according to sony themselves, they aren't going to subsidize it, make it a loss leader, or sell it at any appreciable loss whatsoever. When you look at the current BoM, just adding the retail cut alone would put it over $1,400 break-even, but that doesn't include things like the cost of R&D, marketing, distribution, shipping, etc. And, this also assumes no component of it goes up in price in the next 18 months. Multiple components are expected to further double in price by then. I genuinely think even $1,500 is optimistic to the point of almost being willfully ignorant, $1,500 is what they'd put it out for NOW if they were ok taking a loss of somewhere in the ballpark of $100-200. $1,200 is what they'd put it out for if RAM prices crash between now and November 2027.
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Amazingly kind of them to commit such an unforced error and hand Microsoft, Nintendo and even Valve a shot at embarrassing them by releasing a console at under $1,500 (Valve's already announced $1k for the GabeCube™).
 
moocow said:
Amazingly kind of them to commit such an unforced error and hand Microsoft, Nintendo and even Valve a shot at embarrassing them by releasing a console at under $1,500 (Valve's already announced $1k for the GabeCube™).
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While I wish xbox would team up with valve to spitroast the ps6, unfortunately, I can't see the next xbox being more than $100 cheaper than the ps6, if at all, and the gabecube is unfortunately despite its price about on par with a switch 2. You could say they're giving nintendo a pretty big opportunity, but I doubt they'd really do much to pounce on it, they'll just keep doing their own thing while selling a system 3x cheaper that's still getting a lot of the same games because there's a smaller gap between the switch 2's specs and the leaked ps6's specs than there was a gap between the switch 1 and ps5, while games will still continue coming to the ps5 for even longer than they continued releasing for the ps4, making porting them to the switch 2 borderline trivial, assuming the optimization isn't being handled by jeets.
 
Markorian said:
While I wish xbox would team up with valve to spitroast the ps6, unfortunately, I can't see the next xbox being more than $100 cheaper than the ps6
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Yeah, I agree, it's unlikely. Microsoft's too greedy and stupid. They're tired of losing money on the whole venture and selling a new console at a loss to compete with the PS6 is an impossible sell for their higher-ups, I'm sure. So they'll be just as fucking retarded as Sony in the upcoming generation (which nobody has even really asked for, since it's widely accepted that nobody's even utilizing the current hardware adequately to justify any kind of upgrade).

Nintendo seems content to stick with Switch 2 levels of performance. It certainly hasn't hurt sales. Like you said, they'll just do their own thing over in their corner of the sandbox while the two juggernaut retards choke on the sand.
 
Problematic User Forever said:
Do people really buy movies on their game consoles?

I mean like enough that this is a big deal?

This seemed retarded to me even when I was 16-18 and the 360 was doing this shit.
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I remember way back in like 2007 when the Xbox 360 allowed you to buy/rent digital movies on your console and that seemed completely retarded even back then. I mean who the fuck would ever pay to "rent" a digital movie just for the file to become inaccessible after you watched it?
Rinyuu is my EX said:
He should’ve fucked off the moment that TLoU2 2020 massive leak happened. It was so bad it buck broke his ass into releasing the game by force.
I cannot believe people don’t remember that, not to mention ND pathetic excuse for blaming “Hecking chuds” for the leak instead of their own fuck up.
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Correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe it was a disgruntled Naughty Dog employee who leaked the cutscenes and Sony/Cuckmann tried to cover it up by blaming it on "an external intrusion".
 
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p1138 said:
A shittier buggier version 1-3 years later? Sure. Doesn't change the fact that the system has been out for most of a decade at this point and doesn't have a double digit number of exclusives no matter which way anyone tries to count it.
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I can see this. I’m reminded of the time I purchased Arkham Knight on PS4 not realizing that it’s PC port would be a broken shitfest.

But would the broken ports still be worth it considering the still-low amounts of exclusives?

I apologize. I’m not entirely sure if you’re for or against or split on this based on your wording.
 
Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed said:
I can see this. I’m reminded of the time I purchased Arkham Knight on PS4 not realizing that it’s PC port would be a broken shitfest.

But would the broken ports still be worth it considering the still-low amounts of exclusives?

I apologize. I’m not entirely sure if you’re for or against or split on this based on your wording.
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I personally don't care about the exclusive counting if it's on PC or not. There's been plenty of games over the years on a specific console, but then also PC and they're still a console exclusive according to some. But at the end of the day when you're having to stretch the definition as far as possible and still can't come up with more than 2 games a year for a console... that's just pathetic regardless of how it's counted.

At the end of the day, I don't give a shit about console wars. That crap ended with the Genesis and SNES, because the Playstation immediately ended it. As a grown adult with income, I don't have to pick one or the other, I can buy a Sony, MS, or Nintendo system if they actually have games on it that I'm interested in playing and with the current gen... it hasn't happened yet. Do I game on PC? Absolutely, but I'm not going to buy Sony's old slop ports either.
 
Problematic User Forever said:
Do people really buy movies on their game consoles?

I mean like enough that this is a big deal?

This seemed retarded to me even when I was 16-18 and the 360 was doing this shit.
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Broseph said:
I remember way back in like 2007 when the Xbox 360 allowed you to buy/rent digital movies on your console and that seemed completely retarded even back then. I mean who the fuck would ever pay to "rent" a digital movie just for the file to become inaccessible after you watched it?
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You guys say this but a lot of people forget that the stigma around video games didn't really fully go away until like 2016. I knew plenty of people who convinced their parents to get the more "mature" consoles in the Xbox 360 and PS3 specifically because they could be used to play DVDs/Rent movies/download Netflix.

It is stupid, and consumers and boomers are especially stupid, but a lot of parents were hesitant to get something with that price tag unless it can do everything.

It's the same logic that had Nintendo call the SNES and NES "Entertainment Systems" instead of game consoles.
 
Professor Donger said:
You guys say this but a lot of people forget that the stigma around video games didn't really fully go away until like 2016. I knew plenty of people who convinced their parents to get the more "mature" consoles in the Xbox 360 and PS3 specifically because they could be used to play DVDs/Rent movies/download Netflix.

It is stupid, and consumers and boomers are especially stupid, but a lot of parents were hesitant to get something with that price tag unless it can do everything.

It's the same logic that had Nintendo call the SNES and NES "Entertainment Systems" instead of game consoles.
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You're right, but the average consoomer is unfortunately a fucking retard and the rest of us get to deal with their dumb decision making. That's why I said this shit started 20 years ago, because it did and even though consoomers have been complaining, they keep opening up their wallets.

I can actually think of one recent-ish consumer victory based purely off of not buying the fucking product. That would be ATSC 3.0 tuners for digital broadcast TV in the US because the NAB(national association of broadcasters) tried to implement fucking internet access required DRM to watch broadcast TV. I don't think I need to elaborate on how fucking stupid that is.

Dumb consoomers are why we have the preorder bonuses, battle passes, subscriptions just to play multiplayer, microtransactions that aren't even just cosmetics anymore, 100 different streaming services, the subscriptions for features built into cars, it took government legislation to get phone companies to use one basic standard cable, etc. This shit goes way beyond just game consoles, because the dumb consoomers can't just not spend their fucking money and let a feature/product/company just fail.
 
Professor Donger said:
You guys say this but a lot of people forget that the stigma around video games didn't really fully go away until like 2016. I knew plenty of people who convinced their parents to get the more "mature" consoles in the Xbox 360 and PS3 specifically because they could be used to play DVDs/Rent movies/download Netflix.
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Buying a console to play DVD's or watch Netflix is different from buying a film digitally on a gaming marketplace, though.

Like, if 18 year old me thought that was fucking retarded in 2007, how the fuck are boomer ass mom and dad going to think about it in 2007?

Also, I thought Nintendo called them Entertainment Systems instead of "Computers". Have they *ever* called anything a game console?
 
Problematic User Forever said:
Also, I thought Nintendo called them Entertainment Systems instead of "Computers". Have they *ever* called anything a game console?
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Apparently they pushed to have every console called a "console" or game console pretty aggressively back in the 90s because peoples boomer parents were calling every videogame console under the sun a "Nintendo" which made them afraid they'd lose their copyrights and trademarks to specific systems.

Here's an ad from a magazine that kinda touches on it


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Professor Donger said:
Apparently they pushed to have every console called a "console" or game console pretty aggressively back in the 90s because peoples boomer parents were calling every videogame console under the sun a "Nintendo" which made them afraid they'd lose their copyrights and trademarks to specific systems.

Here's an ad from a magazine that kinda touches on it
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They don't even use the term console in that advert, though.
 
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