Sony hate thread

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Computer Guardian said:
It's really sad compared to the Switch 2 exclusive list, where even when where even when discounting Nintendo's own games and the paid upgrades for old switch games in terms of both the standalone ones and the one with the jewed content, developers are still flocking to making games only for it with 18 games purely made by third party devs compared to the PS5's 8 without counting games funded by Sony or Wikipedia's extended list of "unimportant" indie or shovelware games

Nintendo shouldn't be having that much success with successor consoles netting third parties compared to Sony and yet because of incompetence, it's.the case.
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In the effort of being fair, I'll do this one too for comparison. Keep in mind, switch 2 just turned a year old, ps5 about to enter its 7th year on the market.
Out of 38 listed, 8 are not exclusive. A further 7 are unreleased, though all but 2 are confirmed to come out by the end of the year, most by September. That leaves 23, almost as much as the ps5 list before anything was trimmed. 16 of them, while some have their fans, are very minor releases, and I think even fans of something like fast fusion, which I have heard good things about, would agree is far from a system seller.
That leaves 7 unambiguous major exclusives out in a single year, maybe not exceptional looking at consoles from several decades ago, but grading on the curve of modern systems, a borderline miracle, with 5 more on the way by the holiday season. There was also a new metroid game leaked thanks to the brazilian huehue ratings board, and if it's already going out for ratings, there's a good chance it'll be announced soon and be out this year.
 
Atlas Sneezed said:
One more thing is that the whole disc business has simply stagnated. We went from 700MB -> 8.5GB -> 50GB and that was in 2008ish? And the read speeds for Blu-rays are atrocious by today's standards (I think the highest blu-ray movie bitrate is about 130Mb so around 10MB/s). So even if the will was there, as far as I know modern AAA slop is double or close to triple that. If the optical disc format were to remain viable we'd need another format yesterday
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There were optical discs in development that went up to 1TB at SONY. These companies could also sell 2TB drives with games pre-installed on them that plug directly into an expansion slot on your console or PC. Just like a cartridge. But they want the DRM laded always online and cloud based gaming in the future. Where you are tethered to your internet connection and need a smartphone for 2FA every time you launch a game.
 
TheHarbinger said:
There were optical discs in development that went up to 1TB at SONY. These companies could also sell 2TB drives with games pre-installed on them that plug directly into an expansion slot on your console or PC. Just like a cartridge. But they want the DRM laded always online and cloud based gaming in the future. Where you are tethered to your internet connection and need a smartphone for 2FA every time you launch a game.
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Sounds like a good idea, if you want to pay $200 per game. You also can obviously have DRM in a preloaded HDD or SSD, just like you can have DRM on a Switch cartridge, which is basically just an SD card.
 
Sony would rather port slop than Bloodborne. Their loss, PS4 emulation continues to make leaps and bounds because of that and if the Sonic spergs find a way to recompile PS4 games like they did with the 360, you bet your ass that Bloodborne will be the first to get the treatment.
 
REGENDarySumanai said:
Sony would rather port slop than Bloodborne. Their loss, PS4 emulation continues to make leaps and bounds because of that and if the Sonic spergs find a way to recompile PS4 games like they did with the 360, you bet your ass that Bloodborne will be the first to get the treatment.
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I'm like 95% sure the Bloodborne source code and assets were lost. Literally nothing else makes sense. Even a shitty remaster would be tons of free money and they won't do it.
 
Markorian said:
The insomniac leaks showed their ideal situation is selling games for $150. $50 for the first half, $50 for the second half, and $50 for the multiplayer.
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This is how things were in the later years of the 360 and PS3. You had games releasing with DLC already on the actual disc that had to be unlocked with a code that was either a pre-order bonus (to punish used game purchases) or an expansion pack that was just behind a paywall. And you had lots of single player games that had a tacked-on multiplayer mode just to push online subscriptions or microtransactions. Mass Effect 3 was a major offender on all fronts for example.
 
TheHarbinger said:
This is how things were in the later years of the 360 and PS3. You had games releasing with DLC already on the actual disc that had to be unlocked with a code that was either a pre-order bonus (to punish used game purchases) or an expansion pack that was just behind a paywall. And you had lots of single player games that had a tacked-on multiplayer mode just to push online subscriptions or microtransactions. Mass Effect 3 was a major offender on all fronts for example.
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There are $120 digital deluxe editions right now that don't even come with all the day 1 dlc, let alone how many microtransactions they slip in.
 
Atlas Sneezed said:
Valve and Steam is the first who set "you will own nothing and you'll be happy"
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Incorrect. It has consistently been the stated (and often court-backed) opinion of the copyright cartel from the moment "physical media" became a thing (waaaaaaay back with vinyl records, 8-track cartridges and even reel-to-reel spools) you did not own what you were holding in your hand. It has always been a "license" for "private use" and that language has been pervasive in assorted forms since the inception of the very concept of format-shifting something you wanted to listen to or watch.

It's disingenuous to claim "Valve did it first!" (they didn't) as if they invented the concept (they didn't) or popularized it with content producers (they didn't). You've been getting fucked by copyright law since the moment it was born. Valve's just your preferred scapegoat because their logo isn't emblazoned on your locked-down hardware of choice.
 
Jace on ice said:
I'm like 95% sure the Bloodborne source code and assets were lost. Literally nothing else makes sense. Even a shitty remaster would be tons of free money and they won't do it.
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I've said the same as a joke over the years, it's really not a joke is it?

A Bloodborne PC port, or even just a remaster, would be the easiest money Sony would see, it might almost make enough to offset one of these Live Service Trashfires they keep trying to make into the Next Big Thing. Someone at either Sony or FromSoft has to have lost the code over the decade plus since Bloodborne came out, there's no other explanation beyond "everyone involved is really, REALLY retarded."
 
REGENDarySumanai said:
Can Sony not be retarded for FIVE MINUTES!?
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No, they cannot. They clearly cannot. They're proving it right now.

Jace on ice said:
I'm like 95% sure the Bloodborne source code and assets were lost. Literally nothing else makes sense. Even a shitty remaster would be tons of free money and they won't do it.
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Leaf Wage Slave Jr said:
I've said the same as a joke over the years, it's really not a joke is it?
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There's only two possibilities that fit the known facts: 1) they've lose the sources and assets and cannot reconstitute the original game, 2) they are consciously choosing to ignore the loud, clear calls for an updated release for unstated (but plainly obvious -- they fucking hate you) reasons.
 
moocow said:
There's only two possibilities that fit the known facts: 1) they've lose the sources and assets and cannot reconstitute the original game, 2) they are consciously choosing to ignore the loud, clear calls for an updated release for unstated (but plainly obvious -- they fucking hate you) reasons.
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3) It's actually FromSoft that doesn't want to do it because Sony is fucking retarded. Hear me out.

People at Bluepoint had apparently asked to do a remake of Bloodborne, and it was shot down by FromSoft. This came out after Sony shutdown Bluepoint. Now Bluepoint wasn't necessarily the best studio around, but if FromSoft really didn't want to do it, lost the code, etc. there wouldn't be too much reason to not allow another studio to bother since it avoids the investment risk, but of course it's also a brand risk, and there's likely still rights issues tied up with Sony. That last part being the most important, because it's likely a huge reason why they haven't bothered considering how fucking retarded Sony has been the past few years, practically hostile to studios they don't own but own the rights to the games as the publisher.

Sony just announced they're region locking the PC version of the new marvel fighting game. They did the same shit for Helldivers 2 a couple months after launch turning a massive success of a game into a mediocre mess no one wanted anything to do with. Sony also loves forcing games on other platforms to force people into making PSN accounts... which they can't even do in 130 something countries. This is on top of Sony's recent bad press about price increases, dropping physical media, banning people for using VPNs to bypass their regional bullshit, etc.

Think about it. You're FromSoft, you've got other IPs to work on that don't involved Sony, and it's a safe bet that if you do use the IP that you're married to Sony with, Hermen Hulst if going to fuck you any way he can.

Best bet? Wait in 5 year increments to see if maybe FromSoft can let whatever agreement with Sony run out, and hopefully the rights revert back to them so they can self-publish or work with a different publisher to avoid Sony's retarded shit. Unfortunately since the game came out in 2015, that puts the next possible years they could announce something as 2030 and 2035, assuming Sony doesn't somehow go out of their way to drastically course-correct their retarded decisionmaking.
 
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