Sony hate thread

[BananaSplit²]

I've never understood the appeal of GamePass, but I'm also not a fan of running everything through Steam or the "you will own nothing and be happy" mindset.

It's a short-term cheap and convenient way to play a range of games inside the system without spending money for each game individually. I'm not fan of subscription-based models either, but I can understand the appeal for people who only play a bunch of games for a small period of time and don't touch them ever again once done. At least that's the way I see it.

 

[Local Degenerate]

It's a short-term cheap and convenient way to play a range of games inside the system without spending money for each game individually. I'm not fan of subscription-based models either, but I can understand the appeal for people who only play a bunch of games for a small period of time and don't touch them ever again once done. At least that's the way I see it.

Which would be great, if 95% of the games on there weren't shovelware shit, 3% weren't microsoft garbage, leaving maybe 3-5 good games on there.

 

[augment]

But enough about the whole Wii library!

 

[Raging Capybara]

Which would be great, if 95% of the games on there weren't shovelware shit, 3% weren't microsoft garbage, leaving maybe 3-5 good games on there.

I think every game I've played in the past 3 years was never included on Gamepass.

This service is total garbage.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

Embracer aren't a console maker, and started off as a no-name AA Publisher.

Not even that. This is the origin of Nordic Games, later Nordic Games the publisher, then THQ Nordic, now Embracer:

That's a small ad, they had larger spreads in the game magazines that were pure text listings with names and prices(like those that could be found in magazines like Gamefan). They were 98% a post order business that bought/sold/traded used games for very fair prices, sold imported games, adapters for them and domestic/imported consoles. Oh yeah, they also did that SNES hack where you sent in your SNES and they added an extra button(green!) on the console to switch regions, this was the only method that 100% would not trip any of the copy protection/region lockout bullshit that could be found in games like FF3 and Earthbound.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

So I am officially moving to Japan in March. Can't wait to buy a cheap, second hand PS5 since no one wants them.

 

[Sexyphobe]

It's a short-term cheap and convenient way to play a range of games inside the system without spending money for each game individually. I'm not fan of subscription-based models either, but I can understand the appeal for people who only play a bunch of games for a small period of time and don't touch them ever again once done. At least that's the way I see it.

Also a pretty nice way of trying out games you normally wouldn't, or might have after a large sale. $50 for Taiko no Tatsujin? No thanks. On Gamepass however? Sure I'll give it a whirl, turns out it's fun as fuck and I'm loving it. Also made me realize if I bought Final Fantasy 12 I'd have been pissed off.

There's been dozens of games like this for me. As long as it exists alongside being able to buy games, I don't see the issue.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Which would be great, if 95% of the games on there weren't shovelware shit, 3% weren't microsoft garbage, leaving maybe 3-5 good games on there.

This is why you only pay the 10 dollars just for one month to play the good game(s) you want, and then stop.

I'll never understand how the concept of just canceling a subscription when not wanted is so foreign to people these days. I saw an ad for some app that cancels subscriptions for you and I was just like "Why is this needed?"

Also saying it's 95% shoveware is fucking retarded. All of gaming is 95% shovelware. If Gamepass doesn't have *anything* you want to play you either already own everything you want to play, never actually checked it out or you just don't like gaming anymore. (at least on PC, but I would assume PC is gimped compared to Xbox proper)

 

[Two Dollars]

I'll never understand how the concept of just canceling a subscription when not wanted is so foreign to people these days. I saw an ad for some app that cancels subscriptions for you and I was just like "Why is this needed?"

It’s not a matter of “I’m too dumb to know how to unsubscribe”, it’s “I subscribed to this service for one or two specific things, then kept it because I might use it for something else, then forgot I was still subscribed to it.”

(at least on PC, but I would assume PC is gimped compared to Xbox proper)

Yes and no. The game selection on PC Game Pass is fine (albeit slightly limited since some of the 360 and original Xbox games don’t have PC equivalents), but the app is so fucking terrible it’s not even worth the trouble. You think Epic Games Store has a bad launcher? At least it doesn’t have a 50+% chance of just not letting you log in unless you delete a specific file on your C drive then restart your PC just to get it to temporarily work.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

It’s not a matter of “I’m too dumb to know how to unsubscribe”, it’s “I subscribed to this service for one or two specific things, then kept it because I might use it for something else, then forgot I was still subscribed to it.”

This sounds exactly like a matter of being too dumb to unsubscribe.

Good news though, there's an app for that if just keeping an eye on your bank/credit card statements is too difficult.

 

[BananaSplit²]

Also a pretty nice way of trying out games you normally wouldn't, or might have after a large sale. $50 for Taiko no Tatsujin? No thanks. On Gamepass however? Sure I'll give it a whirl, turns out it's fun as fuck and I'm loving it. Also made me realize if I bought Final Fantasy 12 I'd have been pissed off.

There's been dozens of games like this for me. As long as it exists alongside being able to buy games, I don't see the issue.

Your example reminds me that the recent Taiko no Tatsujin game on Switch has this pass thing as well that gives full access to the +500 songs tracklist for a limited period of time (30 or 90 days - with a 7-days trial). Which sounds a cheaper investment for a majority of people who will just play the game for a full month or two after purchase, rather than spending a few hundred bucks on the DLCs.
No idea if it's like the previous game in which the western release had many songs missing from the game & anime section due of licensing.

Although again I prefer to be strictly minimal when it comes to subscription plans, beyond the mere necessities, but I can see the appeal for other folks.

 

[Local Degenerate]

This sounds exactly like a matter of being too dumb to unsubscribe.

Actually agree on this one. You cancel your sub as soon as you finish paying it, simple.

That being said, it's hardly a ringing endorsement that 'hey, this pile of shit has a few nuggets of corn in it, you just have to dig them out, so it's totally great.'

 

[Sexyphobe]

Actually agree on this one. You cancel your sub as soon as you finish paying it, simple.

That being said, it's hardly a ringing endorsement that 'hey, this pile of shit has a few nuggets of corn in it, you just have to dig them out, so it's totally great.'

Just depends on how much appeals to you, like any sub service. Some feel they get their moneys worth with the variety and additions, others don't really care. The Japanese games that have come to Xbox because of it alone makes it pretty cool.

One big criticism I can see for it is it could lead to developers slacking and releasing unfinished, crap games into the service. And while we've seen that with Sea of Theives and Halo Infinite (although I chuck that up more to 343i and their overall incompetence, as we've seen with Halo's 4&5), I don't see that becoming a trend. Well, not anymore of a trend than it already is in AAA gaming.

 

[Local Degenerate]

Just depends on how much appeals to you, like any sub service. Some feel they get their moneys worth with the variety and additions, others don't really care. The Japanese games that have come to Xbox because of it alone makes it pretty cool.

Well, again, just in reference of 'forgetting to cancel'.

If you want to keep it, feel free, no skin off my nose, but if you're intending to cancel, or don't know, then cancel it as soon as you get it, simple as.

 

[Sexyphobe]

Well, again, just in reference of 'forgetting to cancel'.

If you want to keep it, feel free, no skin off my nose, but if you're intending to cancel, or don't know, then cancel it as soon as you get it, simple as.

I know, I was mostly referring to the second part of your comment about the overall quality of it. To each their own, all that.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

I'm happy with gamepass even though I rarely use it but when I do there's always something of interest. Like Project Wingman, I've been curious about that one but not curious enough to buy and then I see it on gamepass. I also feel that piracy has become shady so the old try-before-you-buy isn't an option.
There are some annoying things with gamepass though, like how taking ownership of the install folder can be a pain in the ass. That's needed to open it or even find out how big it is(at least a couple of years ago). I wanted to play Return to Castle Wolfenstein with cranked up AA and anisotropic filtering which involves pointing the Radeon control panel to the executable but ho-ho-no, merry christmas you can't do that... Creating a shortcut on the desktop and pointing it towards that works but it shouldn't be like that. There's definitely things that could be much better. I don't use mods but I think they don't work which would be a dealbreaker for pervs that wants to play house in Fallout 3.

With Netflix I one day realized that I hadn't actually used it in almost a year so cancelling it was easy.

 

[Pissmaster]

When subscribing to a new service you don't intend on keeping past the trial period, always remove your card number from it immediately, and then cancel before you do anything else.

And speaking of Game Pass, I've only had it when Microsoft ran that $1-for-3-months deal they do at the top of summer. I didn't end up using it much. I probably spent more time flipping through the selection than actually playing something.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

When subscribing to a new service you don't intend on keeping past the trial period, always remove your card number from it immediately, and then cancel before you do anything else.

And speaking of Game Pass, I've only had it when Microsoft ran that $1-for-3-months deal they do at the top of summer. I didn't end up using it much. I probably spent more time flipping through the selection than actually playing something.

I could have bought it with the money used for gamepass but something like The Good Life was the kind of game that keeps me subscribed. That game is really good and janky as hell, seriously did they not have a Q&A team? It's not game breaking of slav-jank though, just a bit confusing in that you can accidentally make parts of the storyline non-linear on more than one occasion. But since I didn't pay full price for it I'm not salty.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I saved this for almost a couple of days, but forgot to post in on here. So, yeah, here you Sony bros go:

 

[ZMOT]

It's so unfortunate Dice is sitting on a great IP by the name of Mirrors Edge and not doing anything with it. Instead they pump out more CoD clones.

you really want nu-dice rape mirror's edge, even after catalyst?
some things don't need endless sequels and better stay dead.

however, there was one anon mentioning he's porting the movement to unity, we'll see if it ever ends up public:

I've never understood the appeal of GamePass, but I'm also not a fan of running everything through Steam or the "you will own nothing and be happy" mindset.

I can get the appeal, but that's because lot of people are dumb and just see OMG CHEAP SHIT and fall for FOMO. normie wagies simply don't have the time to make full use of the catalogue, so all they do is get the newest AAA drivel for cheap instead of paying $70 + dlc + microtransactions (which aren't in the gamepass anyway I'd assume). EA basically did the same thing when they sold the base game for cheap (or even gave away stuff for free, like bf3), but not premium.

eventually that base $70 purchase will be more and more barebone, maybe with a price decrease to get non-gamepass users in, and the real monetization backloaded like in a f2p game. a subscription service will also entice developers to go even harder with the GAAS model, since they want constant sales and microsoft wants people to keep up their sub, not play a game once and be done with it. sure, gamepass for now might have a lot of singleplayer and indie games, but that's only because they they need to get a lot of people onto the service quick. you can compare it to ps+ towards the end of the ps3, and everything afterwards, or netflix.

and even if you're an enthusiast neet that can devote 14 hours a day to vidya, there's only so many games you can (and want to) play, by the time you get to those games might as well grab it on a sale by then (which happen quite often and soon-ish on pc). which is another thing people miss, once gamepass has embraced the market microsoft WILL bleed you dry - no more $1-3 dollar workarounds for years of service.

Serious question

Are the people who get up in arms over Gamepass like less than 20 years old and just never knew what game rentals were or what?

the industry never developed with renting in mind, this is like claiming streaming has no effect on tv and movie production.