Sony hate thread

[Danone]

And there was an old japanese comment on 5ch that summed up well the whole thing:
一般人はSwitch、マニアはsteam deck、統失はPS5
Switch for normal people, Steam Deck for enthusiasts, PS5 for schizos.

What if you have all three.

 

[huecoffs02]

What if you have all three.

Just look at your avatar, you'll find your answer.

 

[BananaSplit²]

This does makes me wonder. How powerful is a Deck when compared to a PS5 or PS4? I assume they are on a similar ballpark

I would say the Deck is well above the PS4, while the Switch is already a PS4-lite, but I've no idea how it compares against the PS5. My sole point of personal reference is EDF5 on the base PS4, which was rendered at 30fps with most often drops (late-end missions would go in the single digit), and the Steam Deck is performing much better by comparison.

 

[The Feline Solution]

Sony's adopted the whole approach that Nintendo has with keeping things under wraps until it's closer to launch.

Hardest i've ever seen you cope ITT yet, nigger. Apply yourself.

He seems to have gotten a lot worse lately. If he came over to my place, he‘d probably tell me that my brand of toothpaste is wrong, and I shouldn’t get it any more, and then proceed to show me sales charts for different brands of toothpaste to prove to me why he's right.

Spoiler

his replies are so predictable that if I don't add this addendum, he'll come up with a bad joke about toothpaste as a reply to this post in order to downplay it, as he does every time someone mocks him

Judgment's absolutely worth your time, especially if you're a Yakuza fan. The first game goes on sale for cheap on consoles, too. I approve.

I'm a die-hard RGG games fan and i found Judgment to be a massive disapointment, first and foremost because of the abysmal performance on PS4. The story was eh, the twists, which there were few of, were predictable. The new mini-games felt lack-lustre, especially that boardgame one. I did like Yagami as a protagonist but i couldn't get warm with his fighting style thanks to the poor performance of Dragon Engine. All the flashiness and dynamic from that first trailer that blew me away got killed by the input lag and the poor loading times in fights. Worse than in Y6 somehow. The game also looked worse than Y6 and K2, despite using the same engine, the aliasing is terrible.
It's not as bad as Y3 (which IMO is bordering kusoge territory) but it still isn't that great, i expected a lot more from it.
At least Y7 delivered fully and motherfucking then some, one of the most fun recent games i've played.

I still haven't played the second Judgement as RGG did put it behind Denuvo and i don't like paying for things.

 

[huecoffs02]

Now that you mentioned it

Sony's adopted the whole approach that Nintendo has with keeping things under wraps until it's closer to launch. But also a ton of games were effected by Covid so things were pushed back just like God of War Ragnarok was.

Soyny is crying that MS wants them to be more like Nintendo, while they adopt Nintendo-like approaches to their business? They even copied the Directs. Sounds like it is yet another bullshit seethe from Jim Ryan (not that we didn't know it was).

 

[Pissmaster]

This does makes me wonder. How powerful is a Deck when compared to a PS5 or PS4? I assume they are on a similar ballpark

Yeah, like BananaSplit said, it's definitely somewhere in between. Yakuza: Like a Dragon defaults to 83% resolution scale, running at 1280x800 with most settings on high. I reduced it to 75% with most settings on medium/low to get a smoother 60fps. If I had to guess, the PS4 version looks to be running on medium/low settings at 30fps, though I don't know its resolution.

There's really nothing out there that the Steam Deck just can't play due to a lack of power. Even Deathloop, an AAA title that's just not on 8th gen consoles is perfectly playable on Deck. So if I had to guess, I'd say the Steam Deck is closer in power to a PS5 than a PS4, and I doubt we'll see games that just won't run on one until the 10th generation. And to be honest, I'll be surprised if the 10th generation even has stationary home consoles. The market's changing, and it's increasingly less viable to sell a game system without a portable component.

Hardest i've ever seen you cope ITT yet, nigger. Apply yourself.

Here you go: https://kiwifarms.net/members/marissa-moira.36171/ignore

 

[Belvedere]

This does makes me wonder. How powerful is a Deck when compared to a PS5 or PS4? I assume they are on a similar ballpark

I guestimate that it sits power wise between the PS4 and PS4 Pro, but don't quote me on that.

Digital Foundry did found out that the performance of the Deck running games at 720p is comparable to the performance of a 1050 Ti running the same game at 1080p. So take that as a frame of reference of what to expect of it.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I guestimate that it sits power wise between the PS4 and PS4 Pro, but don't quote me on that.

Digital Foundry did found out that the performance of the Deck running games at 720p is comparable to the performance of a 1050 Ti running the same game at 1080p. So take that as a frame of reference of what to expect of it.

Didn't they say it almost measures up to an Xbox Series S?

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

>two years after this knitted Sack Boy spinoff game came out for the PS5
>now it’s forgotten

Even if it’s a short time, I still miss this adorable sack like you can’t believe

LBP was the legit reason why one wanted a PS3 in the first place. It was Minecraft before Minecraft existed.

 

[Belvedere]

Didn't they say it almost measures up to an Xbox Series S?

I'll take your word for it because I don't remember if they made that comparison.

I do vividly remember that they made the comparison with the 1050Ti because the game that they tested to get those results was the PC port of God of War. I was mindblown seeing a 2018 AAA PS4 game running on a handheld with zero compromises after a 4 year span.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Sony's argument that Nintendo doesn't "compete" against them is bullshit cope that needs to stop. Granted, Nintendo themselves have rode that cope when it benefited them, but its never really been true. They compete in the same industry, they all make consoles, and said consoles play the same games. The idea that Nintendo doesn't compete against them is laughable, at best, unless you are saying that Sony's PS5 sucks so much, its really not a competitor for the Switch, which is true. At the end of the day, most households only buy one console per generation unless there are multiple people in the household who play (like multiple children) and the household can afford it. If that case, every console wants their console to be the one people buy, and in that case, Nintendo and Sony are directly competing against each other, with Nintendo coming out on top overwhelmingly.

 

[whatever I feel like]

Except Kadokawa is having Fromsoft now act as it's global publisher for it's anime IPs. Which means it's not going anywhere without having Sony being attached to it.

Sony has control of the US anime market and the US is where Kadokawa is primarily expanding towards, and Sony already invested billions into fromsoft for this expansion. It's not looking like Sony is ever going to be without Japanese games, especially since Elden Ring already did quite well on the system.

Publishers like Square Enix and Bandai Namco also find Sony's entrenchment in the anime industry appealing. Because it allows them easier reach to grow franchises.

Japan does not by default equal anime in gaming, that's a niche. Everybody's Golf has always filled a niche on Playstation in both the west and Japan, Sony's US leaders overlooked it and now it's found a home on Apple and Switch. Also I've played loads of Bamco and Squeenix games on Switch.

 

[Pissmaster]

Quote from the Nintendo thread:

Corridor Z for PS4:


Corridor Z for Switch

haha

No sexy ladies allowed on the GayStation™

 

[Marissa Moira]

Japan does not by default equal anime in gaming, that's a niche. Everybody's Golf has always filled a niche on Playstation in both the west and Japan, Sony's US leaders overlooked it and now it's found a home on Apple and Switch. Also I've played loads of Bamco and Squeenix games on Switch.

But stuff that was on Apple Arcade first has already been ported to PS4/PS5 in the past, it's not exactly like Sony is lacking an external development studio in Japan at this point. Nor is it lacking outreach to smaller titles. Anything Sony seems to lose, they tend to quickly replace with another thing. Take for example Stray, that filled the sport that their smaller titles would have. It's a new thing not based on any other pre-existing IP. The Souls series started as a playstation exclusive and then moved on to other systems, and in the meantime other exclusives appeared on their systems.

If the game shows up then it shows up. But considering stuff like Ronin is being used as an example of the projects they're involved in, it doesn't look like they're going to be at a loss for appealing games.

Hardest i've ever seen you cope ITT yet, nigger. Apply yourself.

No, that's actually a real measurable thing that people noticed was their change in communication and their preference for being more secretive. If I'm being perfectly honest I personally don't care if a game is announced and it's 5 years out. From the announcement to release there's always a ton of games in between. But I guess people crave tentpole hype above all else. Not everything needs to be Steve Jobs Era Apple where everything needed a major conference.

 

[Chiri]

Sony acting like Battlefield doesn't exist lol

Wasn't EA desperately trying to sell itself to anyone who might take it not too long ago? Maybe Sony should've bought them out instead of Bungie if they wanted to not lose access to big tent shootan franchises.

 

[TheJelqster]

Yeah, like BananaSplit said, it's definitely somewhere in between. Yakuza: Like a Dragon defaults to 83% resolution scale, running at 1280x800 with most settings on high. I reduced it to 75% with most settings on medium/low to get a smoother 60fps. If I had to guess, the PS4 version looks to be running on medium/low settings at 30fps, though I don't know its resolution.

My advice for optimal Steam Deck performance to battery life for more modern games is to reduce the resolution to 600p, then lower the refresh rate to 40. For most games it's hardly a loss in frame rate and I really don't notice unless the game really needs the frame times.

There's really nothing out there that the Steam Deck just can't play due to a lack of power. Even Deathloop, an AAA title that's just not on 8th gen consoles is perfectly playable on Deck. So if I had to guess, I'd say the Steam Deck is closer in power to a PS5 than a PS4, and I doubt we'll see games that just won't run on one until the 10th generation. And to be honest, I'll be surprised if the 10th generation even has stationary home consoles. The market's changing, and it's increasingly less viable to sell a game system without a portable component.

I think of it as a tone-down Series S than a PS5, but in terms of overall architecture design, yeah it's closer to the 5 than 4, which is astounding to think of.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Wasn't EA desperately trying to sell itself to anyone who might take it not too long ago? Maybe Sony should've bought them out instead of Bungie if they wanted to not lose access to big tent shootan franchises.

The Bungie purchase was for their future online games.

I honestly wouldn't take any of these articles points of view seriously because it's both sides bullshitting the government who are in themselves bullshitters. Nobody's honest and it's all lies and this is what the future antitrust legislation will be based on if something actually happens. The FTC building a case is interesting news because now it's both sides of the pond now eyeing microsoft suggestively. The question is, is the case going to rectify this one situation or are they going to use decades of microsoft's behavior and bring the gavel down for everything they pulled in the past. Because then I would fear government overcorrection, because the sole reason why microsoft got this big in the first place is because the government did nothing in many past instances when it should have.

 

[Slightly Apathetic Mario]

Just saying, In the USA, is it actually possible now to just walk in a store and buy a PS5 without any online shit? I can easily go in a walmart or gamestop and they'll have Xbox Series S/X units on sell and I see the X units get sold fairly quickly, Hell some stores fucking have a display PS5 unit but not willing to just put PS5s on shelves and instead make people fight over online bullshit.

 

[Sexyphobe]

The Bungie purchase was for their future online games.

I honestly wouldn't take any of these articles points of view seriously because it's both sides bullshitting the government who are in themselves bullshitters. Nobody's honest and it's all lies and this is what the future antitrust legislation will be based on if something actually happens. The FTC building a case is interesting news because now it's both sides of the pond now eyeing microsoft suggestively. The question is, is the case going to rectify this one situation or are they going to use decades of microsoft's behavior and bring the gavel down for everything they pulled in the past. Because then I would fear government overcorrection, because the sole reason why microsoft got this big in the first place is because the government did nothing in many past instances when it should have.

Didn't they already sue Microsoft in the 90's and won? Actually both the US and EU went after Microsoft around that time over bundling Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player with Windows? Funny looking back as everyone does that on every electronic device nowadays. As a whole Microsoft is a lot less anticompetitive than they were with Gates, so what is there to correct?

It's strange because on one hand, I really don't think they should be getting Activision, but on the other, these reasonings are so silly and retarded. I'm surprised it's taken this long to even discuss all of it.

If the government wants to do one thing right in gaming, make every platform holder disclose 3rd party exclusivity deals and the lengths of them. But that's a whole different topic.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Didn't they already sue Microsoft in the 90's and won? Actually both the US and EU went after Microsoft around that time over bundling Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player with Windows? Funny looking back as everyone does that on every electronic device nowadays. As a whole Microsoft is a lot less anticompetitive than they were with Gates, so what is there to correct?

It's strange because on one hand, I really don't think they should be getting Activision, but on the other, these reasonings are so silly and retarded. I'm surprised it's taken this long to even discuss all of it.

If the government wants to do one thing right in gaming, make every platform holder disclose 3rd party exclusivity deals and the lengths of them. But that's a whole different topic.

The Apple lawsuit against Microsoft in the 90's is what really set Microsoft down it's current path, yes they lost but it lead to a tactics change where they started getting in bed with people making legislation.

This enabled them to grow aggressively and to get around things that they possibly should not have in the first place.