Sony forces Japanese developers to censor sexual content - For Japanese audiences too.

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It's because Nintendo stayed in Japan whereas Sony moved to California and got Aids. It must be in the air or something because everyone who moves to Cali becomes authoritarian, preachy, and obnoxious.

South Park definitely called it, and it's called smug. Unsurprisingly, it's not endemic only to electric cars either.
 
I can get the idea that most people who bought the system are angry about the censorship. But wouldn't it be safer and less damning if you looked at jiggly anime tits on your PC that you are literally right next to compared to your big ass tv which you usually are farther away from?


Although I still agree it's fucked for those who don't Pc game. Or bought a PS4 because of the whole "Niche Anime games on console" unfortunately I don't think Soyny will be shamed to change that policy like Microsoft was with the early Xbone "Always on DRM" fiasco.
 
I can get the idea that most people who bought the system are angry about the censorship. But wouldn't it be safer and less damning if you looked at jiggly anime tits on your PC that you are literally right next to compared to your big ass tv which you usually are farther away from?


Although I still agree it's fucked for those who don't Pc game. Or bought a PS4 because of the whole "Niche Anime games on console" unfortunately I don't think Soyny will be shamed to change that policy like Microsoft was with the early Xbone "Always on DRM" fiasco.
My fear is more that, like many have already said, some devs might just start hardcoding censors into all versions of a game like what happened to Lady in DMC5 (not the Trish one that got patched out recently) in order to bypass Sony’s censorship process entirely
 
My fear is more that, like many have already said, some devs might just start hardcoding censors into all versions of a game like what happened to Lady in DMC5 (not the Trish one that got patched out recently) in order to bypass Sony’s censorship process entirely


It night get to the point that some devs might release a "Clean" version of a game, but then release a "uncensored" version as DLC. Like movies do for home release.

I think "GalGun" was the first to try that with its $99 "see through clothes" DLC.

yes I'm serious.
 
It night get to the point that some devs might release a "Clean" version of a game, but then release a "uncensored" version as DLC. Like movies do for home release.

I think "GalGun" was the first to try that with its $99 "see through clothes" DLC.

yes I'm serious.
Doesn’t that already happen to newer RE games in Japan? They’ll release a Cero D version for general sale and a Cero Z version for people who want it unrated.
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I can get the idea that most people who bought the system are angry about the censorship. But wouldn't it be safer and less damning if you looked at jiggly anime tits on your PC that you are literally right next to compared to your big ass tv which you usually are farther away from?


Although I still agree it's fucked for those who don't Pc game. Or bought a PS4 because of the whole "Niche Anime games on console" unfortunately I don't think Soyny will be shamed to change that policy like Microsoft was with the early Xbone "Always on DRM" fiasco.
What if I want my Metal Gear Pantsu: Tactical Espionage Action? These developers, whether they like it or not, only see sales on sony consoles. Sony will prevent games like Natsuiro being released now.


shame that the 360 didnt take off in Japan, it was the supreme otaku console, shmups, VNs, weird games, even Idolmaster 2 first debut on 360. but then again, the original xbox only had good Japan support because of Dreamcast carryover.
 
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/...for-violating-sonys-hate-speech-policy/82601/

Sony is going all in - revoking games libraries for hate speech.
As big of an asperger as Billy is, I actually side with him here. It is extremely disturbing that consoles, the platform that is supposed to be offline compatible can now revoke your fucking library for being “naughty”
It doesn’t specify if it’ll let you use them offline with an “activated” console, but I’m just gonna assume that the moment you get banned, there’s a file stating so saved to the HDD the next time you sign into PSN on the console and it’ll just stay that way until you get unbanned and reconnect your unbanned console to the net. So basically if you get an email saying you got banned from Sony and your console is “activated”, do not sign into your PSN account on it for the entire duration of your ban.
 
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I'd say I spent probably 95% of my gaming time on PC. The 5% I spent on PS4 was because of obscure weebshit you couldn't get anywhere else, but given that Compile heart, Nippon Ichi, and Grust have ported nearly their entire catalogue to PC and Nier automata getting a PC port heavily implies Taro's future games will be as well means that Atlus is the sole developer holding me the platform. If the upcoming P5R and P5S announcements include news of PC ports I'll likely be trading in my PS4.
 
I'd say I spent probably 95% of my gaming time on PC. The 5% I spent on PS4 was because of obscure weebshit you couldn't get anywhere else, but given that Compile heart, Nippon Ichi, and Grust have ported nearly their entire catalogue to PC and Nier automata getting a PC port heavily implies Taro's future games will be as well means that Atlus is the sole developer holding me the platform. If the upcoming P5R and P5S announcements include news of PC ports I'll likely be trading in my PS4.
NIS/NISA hasn't ported their entire catalog.

Since Xseed's demise they've taken up series and franchises that won't be coming to PC. Utawererumono isn't coming and Falcom's upcoming games don't seem to be getting PC ports either. So Trails 3 and 4 as well as Ys9 seem to be PS4 only. There's also Sega and they seem intent on keeping Sakura Wars 6 Playstation only.
 
Nintendo is partnering with Tencent to bring the Switch to China. It's gonna be interesting to see what comes of this, because many linked the Sony policy in part to pleasing China's strict rules.

https://www.siliconera.com/2019/04/18/nintendo-partners-with-tencent-to-bring-switch-into-china/
I wouldn’t be surprised if China was the true reason for all of this censorship, their “MeToo Movement” and “GooberGabe” explanation sounded like some flowery bullshit slapped together to please the dangerhairs and manginas over at Kotaku, Polygon, etc.

I'd say I spent probably 95% of my gaming time on PC. The 5% I spent on PS4 was because of obscure weebshit you couldn't get anywhere else, but given that Compile heart, Nippon Ichi, and Grust have ported nearly their entire catalogue to PC and Nier automata getting a PC port heavily implies Taro's future games will be as well means that Atlus is the sole developer holding me the platform. If the upcoming P5R and P5S announcements include news of PC ports I'll likely be trading in my PS4.
Like I’ve said before, I’ll still probably keep my PS4 since I doubt Last Guardian, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Spidey, Grav Rush, Death Stranding, etc will ever come to PC (at least not until we get a decent PS4 emulator running in like 2028) and I’m way too busy/poor during the university year to go through the effort of pawing off my PS4 and all the games on it in order to shift all operations over to PC, but with Gen 9, I’ll probably just go straight from PS4 to PC and Switch if Sony keeps up their downward spiral
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if China was the true reason for all of this censorship, their “MeToo Movement” and “GooberGabe” explanation sounded like some flowery bullshit slapped together to please the dangerhairs and manginas over at Kotaku, Polygon, etc.


Like I’ve said before, I’ll still probably keep my PS4 since I doubt Last Guardian, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Spidey, Grav Rush, Death Stranding, etc will ever come to PC (at least not until we get a decent PS4 emulator running in like 2028) and I’m way too busy/poor during the university year to go through the effort of pawing off my PS4 and all the games on it in order to shift all operations over to PC, but with Gen 9, I’ll probably just go straight from PS4 to PC and Switch if Sony keeps up their downward spiral
China is more than likely the #1 primary reason. Which means if nintendo rolls out some very arcane stuff that will be definite proof that it's entirely the fault of the Chinese government.

The one thing I do not like about PC is that there are no physical copies or big box CEs. I loved big box PC games and that tradition is all but dead and consoles are the only place where it actually happens.

I've got a PS4 and a Switch but I don't see myself changing anything all that much. Switch is too underpowered to be the main console in america. It's also got a less than optimal storage medium for physical games. You can't even fit Final Fantasy 10 and 10-2 on the single switch cart which was something that PS3 was even able to do with blu-ray. If nintendo released a powerhouse console to be on par with the ps4 and xbox it would probably be different, but at this point Sony and nintendo are not even competing for the same pie. Xbox doesn't sound too appealing but both Microsoft and Sony are using SSDs which means the switch is going to get fucked hard for third party support because if the baseline is SSDs for memory storage and retrieval nobody is going to really cater towards the switch.

I wish nintendo would stop gimping it's hardware because it keeps putting itself as the odd man out.
 
Yeah, I’m guessing it’s a combination, dangerhairs and manginas are doing the censors FOR Sony’s Chinese expansion
I'm not so sure. All they removed from senran kagura was the dressing room examining stuff. Yet they kept in the character customization, clothes tearing and the partial nudity. A dangerhair would have gone full retard and made everyone wear a wetsuit as an undergarment.

While it's definitely the US branch who's doing the censoring, it makes me wonder if this is preferred over an alternative. Like China demanding full access to games and data so the Chinese government does the censoring themselves, I think that's what Sony is trying to avoid if it is indeed China who's causing a stir.
 
How did Nintendo learn that censorship is bad? They only really lost out on MK1 sales way back when (which is literally one game), then they opened it up and got more sales in the 2nd installment.

It's not like the SNES failed because blood was censored in MK1.
They censored even during the gamecube. The only example I remember off the top of my head is Freedom Fighters having a scene where you blow up a building because there's a sniper in it to you setting a fire to block his view of the street. What was bullshit was they allowed Resident Evil on the console uncensored.

EDIT: I forgot something. Nintendo might have learned from Fire Emblem Fates and Tokyo Mirage Sessions that censorship was bad. Or at least there was a vocal backlash against those games. I don't know if there were any sequels to those games. I know Bravely Default was mildly censored and then the sequel was censored more, but I don't know how well the sequel did.

The problem with Nintendo is the people in charge of passing the message to Japan are also the ones doing the censoring.

the people who kept calling the Wii-U the successor to the Dreamcast or Dreamcast 2.0.
Who would say that? Why would they say that?

It night get to the point that some devs might release a "Clean" version of a game, but then release a "uncensored" version as DLC. Like movies do for home release.

I think "GalGun" was the first to try that with its $99 "see through clothes" DLC.

yes I'm serious.
Won't happen. It's been suggested before and the logic was "If we give people the option, that will defeat the point of the censorship.".

GalGun had an in game item that did that anyway, so the DLC was pointless.

And to the people saying that only bad games are being censored. I remind you of Sturgeon's Law.
Ninety percent of everything is crap!
 
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They censored even during the gamecube. The only example I remember off the top of my head is Freedom Fighters having a scene where you blow up a building because there's a sniper in it to you setting a fire to block his view of the street. What was bullshit was they allowed Resident Evil on the console uncensored.

EDIT: I forgot something. Nintendo might have learned from Fire Emblem Fates and Tokyo Mirage Sessions that censorship was bad. Or at least there was a vocal backlash against those games. I don't know if there were any sequels to those games. I know Bravely Default was mildly censored and then the sequel was censored more, but I don't know how well the sequel did.

The problem with Nintendo is the people in charge of passing the message to Japan are also the ones doing the censoring.


Who would say that? Why would they say that?


Won't happen. It's been suggested before and the logic was "If we give people the option, that will defeat the point of the censorship.".

GalGun had an in game item that did that anyway, so the DLC was pointless.

And to the people saying that only bad games are being censored. I remind you of Sturgeon's Law.

I'm not going to write Nintendo off from performing censorship ever again, if they're getting Buddy buddy with Tencent that means they're getting in bed with the Chinese Government. Everything Tencent has touched has always had effects on the international markets.

Also I'm not sure if Sturgeon's law applies to many of these companies who are getting their games censored. Idea Factory/Compile Heart is batting a perfect score for releasing not one single good game. Gust is fairly close as well. However looking on the horizon for what's known for 2019 it looks like nothing else is going to be affected by Sony's Censorship. Catherine already passed it, Death Stranding is a first party game since sony owns Kojima's studio, naughty dog is part of sony as well, Sakura Wars is a ps4 exclusive, like there's really nothing that seems like it's going to be an issue.

There's also a fact that censorship has been inconsequential in quite a few instances . Censored games have done well in the past. Tales of Berseria had one of it's opening scenes changed in the west and the game sold very well in western markets(Tales of Xillia also had a scene changed when one of the characters are falling, in the japanese version they had her give the finger while in the western version she just had her hand outreached when falling) . Xenoblade Chronicles X had Lin's outfits censored but the game did well enough to warrant a sequel.

People seem more concerned with what could be than what's already happened. Sony's main draw for Japanese games has always been RPGs like Tales of, Breath of Fire, Suikoiden, it really was never stuff like Power Shovel, Disaster Report, or Mr. Mosquito. Thus far RPGs have really remained largely untouched. By the summer it would be 1 year since the policy has been in place and if there have been no major shakeups it's probably going to be business as usual going forward. It's looking like the persona 5 sequel and possible Final Fantasy 7 remake news are the next big thing.

I think some sites might try to take potshots at catherine's new translation and may try to dupe the readers for clicks since there's no 1 for 1 translation between Japanese and English and proclaim that the word changes or rephrasings are censorship.
 
I'm not going to write Nintendo off from performing censorship ever again, if they're getting Buddy buddy with Tencent that means they're getting in bed with the Chinese Government. Everything Tencent has touched has always had effects on the international markets.
Tbf, given Ninty’s past of making “iQue” versions of their consoles for China, Ninty might just end up doing that with Tencent and Switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue
 
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