Sonic The Hedgehog Games

[The ATF Disliked That]

Hey, remember this tranny?

Wasn't this featured in another thread at one point?

 

[Pixy]

Wasn't this featured in another thread at one point?

Might have been the Sonic fan community watch thread.

 

[Newcomer 42]

Who is fat and bullied by nearly everyone until he starts saving people with the Sword of Plot Convenience™.

Fat? I don't recall that part, he's jap, not american. He does get athletic later on anyway.
And yeah, he's slow, but he gets better.

it doesn't feel like it's almost been 10 fucking years since the blue balls "totally gonna be generations 2 guys!" disaster that was forces. Then again corona ate like half a decade and the aftermath has been just as stagnant as ever. Edgelord jackal man coming back would be kinda interesting if he's in an actually good game considering his entire motivation is petty as hell (unless they retcon that but I hope they don't because it's funny that he just got beat up once by shadow raiding eggman's base)

Frontiers' talk about how Sanic friends must see other people will be forgotten, I bet.

I find it weird how every original major female character in IDW sonic is just "Strong gentle and/or spunky (maybe lesbian) girl with TRAUMA SCARY SAD BACKSTORY

Everyone practically has some trauma of some sort, even Kitsunami, the only non evil OC guy. Meanwhile, the rest of the cast became a zombie and laughed it off, even Charmy, who "killed" the rest of his gang.

Hey, remember this tranny?

Troon and sex pests seem to be related concepts.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Everyone practically has some trauma of some sort, even Kitsunami, the only non evil OC guy. Meanwhile, the rest of the cast became a zombie and laughed it off, even Charmy, who "killed" the rest of his gang.

No I mean specifically shit untied to the sonic zombies thing. It's all only the OC female characters with the blue tails knockoff sidekick of the one having that because of his shared backstory with one of the female OCs to keep her legally distinct from scourge. (sonic from the evil timeline that turned green because he got hit mid-going super)

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

HEY! The thing that never happened, happened! Again!

Speaking of Forces, The game had some cool ideas but absolutely refused to do anything with them. It was one of the laziest cash grabs that i have ever played. I remember pirating it and finishing the main story FASTER then it took to download it. I do like Infinite and would not mind them trying again with him.

 

[The Lawgiver]

HEY! The thing that never happened, happened! Again!

Speaking of Forces, The game had some cool ideas but absolutely refused to do anything with them. It was one of the laziest cash grabs that i have ever played. i remember pirating it and finishing the main story FASTER then it took to download it. I do like Infinite and would not mind them trying again with him.

Forces was literal clickbait as a game. Over a year of hype and buildup hinting that sonic's old rivals, chaos, and this new guy eggman hired specifically to beat the shit out of sonic are working together for their own reasons with little profile blurbs hinting at what their stuff in the game is gonna be about only for the actual game to be "yeah none of this is real they're just phantom ruby clones also uhhhh eggman made the phantom ruby or something i dunno even though that directly conflicts with both the promo lore and the game it's a half-sequel to where he literally dug it out of the ground in the past and it supercharged his eggrobos. maybe he made infinite in a lab maybe he dudn't and he was just a random dude he gave him the ruby but it wasnt the "real" one so what the fuck is the point"

I don't know what the fuck was going on at sega for shit to be so weirdly constantly half assed and conflicting.

 

[Pixy]

what the fuck was going on at sega for shit to be so weirdly constantly half assed and conflicting.

The Project Sonic 2017 VR project.

 

[Newcomer 42]

No I mean specifically shit untied to the sonic zombies thing. It's all only the OC female characters with the blue tails knockoff sidekick of the one having that because of his shared backstory with one of the female OCs to keep her legally distinct from scourge. (sonic from the evil timeline that turned green because he got hit mid-going super)

Well, yeah, it's been mentioned already that most of the gals of the IDW Comics have muh trauma backstories, to the point of hilarity. Meanwhile, the OC bad guys have zilch because they're to be exterminated with extreme prejudice and no empathy wasted on those.

HEY! The thing that never happened, happened! Again!

Retcon incoming!

So, Infie might be back. He'll have to be severely nerfed, because I don't see anyone outside of Sonic tier capable of defeating an Aizen-tier of illusion bullshit that can turn you inside out.

The Project Sonic 2017 VR project.

*checks* Found little. Apparently, it was a VR project that never happened, right? Forces is a mess, combining the script of like 3 different games. And no playtesting. Combine Sonic with an avatar weapon that increases speed to move faster than the game can keep up with (and thus fall to your death in platforming sections).

 

[The Lawgiver]

Well, yeah, it's been mentioned already that most of the gals of the IDW Comics have muh trauma backstories, to the point of hilarity. Meanwhile, the OC bad guys have zilch because they're to be exterminated with extreme prejudice and no empathy wasted on those.

I saw something weird which unless I'm like missing some info was really odd to me where the genderswapped pinnochio one made offscreen when the comic was opening and eggman had genuine amnesia was supposedly secretly built with an evil mode as in like a mode where eggman can just like make her evil and mind control her against her will or some shit when that like directly conflicts with the "oh she was made when eggman wouldnt do that shit because he was mentally just a goofy talented guy who when presented with his fucked up past didn't want to remember it but then after remembering is just totally ok and accepting of it becaus ewe need a bad guy that's definitive robotnik and not metal sonic or clone robotnik" thing.

It's even weirder because once again mind control of his own robots is more of a SATAM robotnik thing than a game robotnik thing and this is supposed to be game robotnik who not only can't stop repairing and upgrading a robot based on the guy he fucking hates instead of making another new one and keeps him around even after an intense betrayal but also has 2 small shape based robots that constantly sass him off and give him bad or good advice depending on how funny it is.

Also the orb one was around before the cube one so the fact he fucking made A SECOND ONE AFTER GETTING PISSED AT THE FIRST ONE THE GAME DIRECTLY AFTER WE SEE HIM CHASING THE ORB ONE ON A BEACH LIKE HE'S GONNA FUCKING MURDER HIM SAYS A LOT I THINK You can kinda tell the thought process was like "You pissed me off so I made another one of you little shits for you to have to deal with each other instead of harassing me all the time"

 

[NerdShamer]

Also the orb one was around before the cube one so the fact he fucking made A SECOND ONE AFTER GETTING PISSED AT THE FIRST ONE THE GAME DIRECTLY AFTER WE SEE HIM CHASING THE ORB ONE ON A BEACH LIKE HE'S GONNA FUCKING MURDER HIM SAYS A LOT I THINK You can kinda tell the thought process was like "You pissed me off so I made another one of you little shits for you to have to deal with each other instead of harassing me all the time"

I just saw Cubot as an attempt at him remembering what happens when he makes his machines too intelligent and shat a brick at the thought of Orbot rebelling against him. Which is why Cubot is just there as an necessary distraction

I don't know what the fuck was going on at sega for shit to be so weirdly constantly half assed and conflicting.

Thanks, you'd saved me from pirating this shit.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I just saw Cubot as an attempt at him remembering what happens when he makes his machines too intelligent and shat a brick at the thought of Orbot rebelling against him. Which is why Cubot is just there as an necessary distraction

Orbot's just a little round helper robot fucker though what the hell is he gonna do he doesn't even have any guns or anything

 

[NerdShamer]

Orbot's just a little round helper robot fucker though what the hell is he gonna do he doesn't even have any guns or anything

Reprogram an new robot into actively mocking his creator?

 

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

I don't know what the fuck was going on at sega for shit to be so weirdly constantly half assed and conflicting.

For whatever reason, SEGA [Or someone in SEGA] decided they wanted to "retire" the canon timeline and make story arcs self-contained, like Final Fantasy. When they changed their minds, they tried to just squish everything back into a singular timeline again and handwave the contradictions. [Hence why Sonic Frontiers has so much lore dumpage, and why the Classic Sonic games are now both prequels and an alternate dimension at the same time.]

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

You know what I only noticed very recently? Rings are not featured anywhere, in any capacity, at all, in the IDW comics. They are so visually iconic to the Sonic franchise and yet they are nowhere to be seen. I read a theory once that rings were in Sonic’s imagination, which....

 

[Celebrate Nite]

For whatever reason, SEGA [Or someone in SEGA] decided they wanted to "retire" the canon timeline and make story arcs self-contained, like Final Fantasy. When they changed their minds, they tried to just squish everything back into a singular timeline again and handwave the contradictions. [Hence why Sonic Frontiers has so much lore dumpage, and why the Classic Sonic games are now both prequels and an alternate dimension at the same time.]

I can play that game too

So in my headcanon, everything that happens in the classic games up to 3D Blast is real until one day Sonic was home and then ate some really bad chili dogs that had psychedelic mushrooms hidden inside that forced him into a coma that lasted long enough for him to dream up the events of Sonic Adventure through Generations. And then he finally wakes up and goes through the events of Mania, then comes back to his real time after Forces and kills himself because what he saw in the future was so fucking scary and traumatizing, so now every new sonic game/story/thing that comes out isn't true and is just the mad ramblings of tails who wound up in the mental asylum after finding sonic's dead body.

 

[Retarded Weeb]

The thing with Forces in particular is that its plot suffered from a lot of rewrites and politicking between SoJ and SoA. As far as I know, the developers were intending the game to be more like the 2000s games in tone and didn't want to be as tied down by SoA's demands (like they found against SoA not wanting vocal songs), and originally had a story written by Makoto Goya, but they were still getting SoA a lot more involved like with the previous 2010s games with Pontac and Graff rewriting the script for the English version, which the cutscenes would be animated off of. There ended up being a bunch of rewrites and passing the script back and forth between Japanese and American writers and editors, disagreements on how the exact tone and level of edge should be. Eventually we have the final English script written by Pontac & Graff, and a Japanese script based off it written by Eitaro Toyoda, who then was the one who wrote Episode Shadow where we see Infinite's backstory. It's why the game is so confused on what tone it wants, and why there's a bunch of half-baked plot points that don't really work.

 

[starborn427614]

HEY! The thing that never happened, happened! Again!

Speaking of Forces, The game had some cool ideas but absolutely refused to do anything with them. It was one of the laziest cash grabs that i have ever played. I remember pirating it and finishing the main story FASTER then it took to download it. I do like Infinite and would not mind them trying again with him.

An actual remake with 3D hubs, missions and some actual tension would do the concept wonders.

 

[The Lawgiver]

The thing with Forces in particular is that its plot suffered from a lot of rewrites and politicking between SoJ and SoA. As far as I know, the developers were intending the game to be more like the 2000s games in tone and didn't want to be as tied down by SoA's demands (like they found against SoA not wanting vocal songs), and originally had a story written by Makoto Goya, but they were still getting SoA a lot more involved like with the previous 2010s games with Pontac and Graff rewriting the script for the English version, which the cutscenes would be animated off of. There ended up being a bunch of rewrites and passing the script back and forth between Japanese and American writers and editors, disagreements on how the exact tone and level of edge should be. Eventually we have the final English script written by Pontac & Graff, and a Japanese script based off it written by Eitaro Toyoda, who then was the one who wrote Episode Shadow where we see Infinite's backstory. It's why the game is so confused on what tone it wants, and why there's a bunch of half-baked plot points that don't really work.

Even then this doesn't excuse the retroactive "Yer that sonic from another dimension!" thing. I know that was due to some weird retard push trying to split the classic and modern games into separate continuities but even then it's still retarded because it's a sequel to sonic generations which hammers in constantly that no, this isn't another reality sonic or whatever this isn't a multiverse thing, it's literally a fucking back to the future style time travel situation where fucking with the past too much can and will fuck things up and you can just interact with your past self.

Actually I'm surprised when generations came out OVER A DECADE AGO that there weren't too many shitposts using this specific scene as a basis given the twist of the game was modern eggman making a scooby doo monster time travel mech costume and recruiting his past self to make it even better.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

Even then this doesn't excuse the retroactive "Yer that sonic from another dimension!" thing. I know that was due to some weird retard push trying to split the classic and modern games into separate continuities but even then it's still retarded because it's a sequel to sonic generations which hammers in constantly that no, this isn't another reality sonic or whatever this isn't a multiverse thing, it's literally a fucking back to the future style time travel situation where fucking with the past too much can and will fuck things up and you can just interact with your past self.

Actually I'm surprised when generations came out OVER A DECADE AGO that there weren't too many shitposts using this specific scene as a basis given the twist of the game was modern eggman making a scooby doo monster time travel mech costume and recruiting his past self to make it even better.

Thing is too that Sega specifically folks like Iizuka can't make up their minds. It's strange the lengths went to try and keep Classic Sonic in the spotlight due to the refusal to just let him go and focus on moving forward or just not bother with splitting the universe and just make games with classic sonic. If anything it's been clear that they are having a rough time justifying why he needs to be here doing anything in the first place since with Superstars they're running out of ideas.

 

[Newcomer 42]

saw something weird which unless I'm like missing some info was really odd to me where the genderswapped pinnochio one made offscreen when the comic was opening and eggman had genuine amnesia was supposedly secretly built with an evil mode as in like a mode where eggman can just like make her evil and mind control her against her will or some shit when that like directly conflicts with the "oh she was made when eggman wouldnt do that shit because he was mentally just a goofy talented guy who when presented with his fucked up past didn't want to remember it but then after remembering is just totally ok and accepting of it becaus ewe need a bad guy that's definitive robotnik and not metal sonic or clone robotnik" thing.

More commas, please. I can't remember if the wooden girl had an "evil mode" or if she was reprogrammed somehow. Doesn't matter, she's redundant anyway. Also, she gets a lighter feature despite being made of wood.

It's even weirder because once again mind control of his own robots is more of a SATAM robotnik thing than a game robotnik thing and this is supposed to be game robotnik who not only can't stop repairing and upgrading a robot based on the guy he fucking hates instead of making another new one and keeps him around even after an intense betrayal but also has 2 small shape based robots that constantly sass him off and give him bad or good advice depending on how funny it is.

IDW Sonic has nothing to do. It doesn't have a central authority, places are like videogame levels than real locations, the plot doesn't matter because it's padding between games, etc. But hey, there's a lesbian couple!

You know what I only noticed very recently? Rings are not featured anywhere, in any capacity, at all, in the IDW comics. They are so visually iconic to the Sonic franchise and yet they are nowhere to be seen. I read a theory once that rings were in Sonic’s imagination, which....

We still don't have a new name for Sonic's species since the 2000s. Don't expect miracles when IDW Sonic is an excuse for Ian and co to show off their mental illness.

Thing is too that Sega specifically folks like Iizuka can't make up their minds. It's strange the lengths went to try and keep Classic Sonic in the spotlight due to the refusal to just let him go and focus on moving forward or just not bother with splitting the universe and just make games with classic sonic. If anything it's been clear that they are having a rough time justifying why he needs to be here doing anything in the first place since with Superstars they're running out of ideas.

Sonic 06 truly broke SEGA, it seems.