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Which game do you play the most in Sonic Mega Collection?

  • Sonic 1

    Votes: 28 4.5%

  • Sonic 2

    Votes: 112 18.1%

  • Sonic 3 and Knuckles

    Votes: 245 39.5%

  • Sonic 3D Blast

    Votes: 23 3.7%

  • Sonic Spinball

    Votes: 24 3.9%

  • Dr. Robotnik's Meanbean Machine

    Votes: 89 14.4%

  • they're all good in my opinion

    Votes: 99 16.0%
  • Total voters
    620
Byte Doctor said:
I Saw this today and this is just sad. I know Pontac and Graff's writing in the series was controversial to say the least but I thought their in writing in Generations was Okay. Sure, It was nothing Great and There was hardly a story. But, did it really need to be rewritten? It'll be Interesting to see the japanese version and see if that one stays largely intact. Since, the characters in Japanese have been pretty consistent even in the 2010's.
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Ironically the only time the characters were fucky in japanese was the JP version of frontiers where they tried making eggman edgy and resentful of his own ai assistant kid among other weird things. Also agree about the OG generations writing not being too bad. It's just barebones if anything. t's so weird seeing media journos AND people talking about the game parroting the same "ah yes this fixes the cringy 2010s writing and adds actual plot!". I don't see any extra "plot" being added. The plot is literally the same from all the cutscenes that have been revealed or leaked, it's SOLELY dialogue between characters that got altered or censored because that's literally all the original game has aside from the basic plot of time travel through old stages. If anything the dialogue has been made longer and less engaging/properly characterized and that's it. Shit makes no sense.
if they wanted to reference it being the chemical plant from west side island they should be like "huh... this chemical plant seems familiar, it kind of looks almost identical like one we saw back on west side island but..." instead of "THIS IS DEFINITELY THE CHEMICAL PLANT"

Sonic reacting the way he does to amy makes no fucking sense in the new dialogue. She literally just goes "thanks for helping me, I'll be sure to return the favor later" implying she's going to save him if he's in trouble. The original she makes a statment about how she's "able to flirt with him again". This is another weird entry in the growing trend of ports omitting romantic implications in dialogue between characters, even if it's one sided advances played for a gag. Actually I think sega america was the first one to pull this shit, the persona 5 deluxe version's english version that came out BEFORE corona replaced the scene where ryuji gets basically semi-abducted by gay guys who were hitting on him. They changed it to some dumb shit that makes no sense involving him being taken to a drag show and is cross dressing or some shit instead of screaming for help on the phone as he gets shown around town by some weirdo gay dudes he's not into. Usually it's the gay implications stay though and the hetero ones are the ones that get censored this way in these deluxe versions and ports, though.
 
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AlmightyMagichan said:
They don't want any romance because it creates shippers, and no one wants those things around.
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if they didn't want shippers they wouldn't have the fucking "confirmed gay but we can't show them in romantic situations 100% trust us guys" characters that are officially canon to the games but only show up in the idw comics which are apparently a sequel/spinoff to forces. Every time I see some character I don't fucking recognize it's almost always some IDW addition these days.
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I never played Generations so this will be all new to me. I do hope characters like Amy, Knuckles, and Rouge at the very least play important roles.

I miss hub worlds.

How is the Japanese version of Sonic X? I heard there are drastic differences between the sub and the 4Kids dub. Apparently there's 300 minutes worth of differences :o
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
I do hope characters like Amy, Knuckles, and Rouge at the very least play important roles.
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Sonic generations only has Sonic as important since he's saving his friends from basically time travel paradox induced purgatory.
Only games where those characters play important roles all at once is SA2 and Heroes. Maybe Battle too but that's a spinoff so it doesn't play like a normal sonic game. As in sonic battle, not SA2 battle which was the port of SA2.
 
The Lawgiver said:
Sonic generations only has Sonic as important since he's saving his friends from basically time travel paradox induced purgatory.
Only games where those characters play important roles all at once is SA2 and Heroes. Maybe Battle too but that's a spinoff so it doesn't play like a normal sonic game. As in sonic battle, not SA2 battle which was the port of SA2.
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Yes. I've played all those. I played up to 06. Never played any of them from Unleashed to now.

I didn't realize they altered the dialogue. Cringe.

I'm still not over the alleged 300 minutes restored of Sonic X. I remember watching the dub Saturday mornings. It'll be interesting to see how it differs. At the very least no more frothy mugs of water. And now actual signs. I guess once you view it you soon become horrified at the sheer amount of butchering 4Kids did to it.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
I miss hub worlds.
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Shadow Generations will have a hub world, so you're in luck.
Side note: at one point Sonic Dream Team was going to have a hub world as well, but it seems to have been scrapped for a simpler level select menu, there's some concept art of it lying around
The Lawgiver said:
Also agree about the OG generations writing not being too bad. It's just barebones if anything. t's so weird seeing media journos AND people talking about the game parroting the same "ah yes this fixes the cringy 2010s writing and adds actual plot!". I don't see any extra "plot" being added. The plot is literally the same from all the cutscenes that have been revealed or leaked, it's SOLELY dialogue between characters that got altered or censored because that's literally all the original game has aside from the basic plot of time travel through old stages. If anything the dialogue has been made longer and less engaging/properly characterized and that's it. Shit makes no sense.
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I never got why people always dogged on the plot of Generations. The game doesn't really need a plot. The game is essentially a greatest hits compilation of past Sonic games, there doesn't need to be this dramatic narrative weaving everything together.
If anything these new lines are way cringier than any of the lines Pontac and Graff came up with. I don't find it endearing that Sonic and Tails bring up a location that no one would ever really know unless they pay attention to an instruction manual for a game that's over 30 years old, I find it offputting, like I'm reading someone's fan fiction. This rewrite is supposed to make the characters less like cheerleaders, yet they feel even more wooden and one dimensional, their only purpose now is to say shit about "YEAH LET'S GO STOP THE BIG MONSTER!". IDK this rewrite really makes me MATI, I was hoping the changes would be minor like making Cindy Robinson redo her lines so it lines up more with the voice she used in Boom, but instead it's forcing the story of the game to be something it very clearly isn't. Good job Ian Flynn, you fat retard. You somehow managed to take what's supposed to be a straight port of an Xbox 360 game and fuck it up.
 
marvlouslie said:
Well, I'll be ignoring this then and sticking with the original game.
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The seas or steam in an expensive bundle are the only options for it, My ps3 is dead, and the steam version is windows only with possible DENUVO slapped on like other sega games years after the fact unless it wasn't one of those. My point is there's only one real option for a lot of people that want the original experience now.
Nguyen Van Phuoc said:
I don't find it endearing that Sonic and Tails bring up a location that no one would ever really know unless they pay attention to an instruction manual for a game that's over 30 years old, I find it offputting
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Thing is that's not a location exclusive to the instruction manual, it's literally brought up in promo shit as the place sonic 2 takes place on so I don't have any issue with it. It isn't really obscure at all. South island is sonic 1, west side island is sonic 2, angel island is sonic 3. People remember angel island and don't treat it as obscure so why the fuck are the others suddenly "weird obscure lore only the most faithful know"? It's literally the location for the simple plot of the game it's not some cryptic tome. I don't like the sudden recent treatment of the old games' manuals as "obscure content" by social media game people either lmao.

My issue as I already said is the fact they go and name drop the place as "the chemical plant... but we're not on west side island" as if the place being a chemical plant that looks familiar to one they've been to before is just the ONE chemical plant in all of existence when they've been to several chemical plant type locations and haveoly been to the one on west side island a few select times. Fuck going "huh this is west side island's chemical plant..." would have worked. There's nightmarish amounts of sentences that would work better and feel more natural for name dropping the setting for sonic 2.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Think they'll mention Maria's fictional AIDS disease? I cannot wait for all the people to sperg about it not realizing it was actually established in SA2's manual.
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It's brought up in the games whenever she appears after SA2 from what I remember but in the goldfish brained clout hungry eternal current year they view shadow being based on the sonic 3 mural as a "fan theory that got confirmed" and completely ignore how shadow is supposed to look like a black super sonic due to the sonic 06 redesign of super sonic that's now been the standard for over a decade, yeah they'll probably treat it as "new shocking info" like every fucking other sonic thing people already knew about till they didn't.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Think they'll mention Maria's fictional AIDS disease? I cannot wait for all the people to sperg about it not realizing it was actually established in SA2's manual.
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As in fully-naming NIDS and describing it as an allegory for AIDS? No, that's rarely happened in mainline Sonic media. As for mentioning that she's stricken with a fictional illness, that's already featured pretty prominently in the first episode of the prologue animations.
 
I really wish Sonic Origins had save states, the last stage of Sonic 2 is fucking hard, Genesis emulation is easily accessible at least
 
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Honestly Sonic Team should just stop with stories at this point. Pic related found on /v/, these people will never be fucking happy so starve them out.
 
Caddo Cobgang said:
the last stage of Sonic 2 is fucking hard
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You mean Death Egg Zone?

Because you can hit the chest of the Giant Mech as Sonic/Tails no problem as long as its arms aren't extended in any way. It's Knuckles in which you'll have an issue because there's really only two ways to attack it.
  • wait for the Giant Mech to duck before it flies up and/or wait till it drops down and bends, then hit it in the chest
  • Hit it in the front underbelly part that's entirely black
The former you only have a few frames to get it because of Knuckle's low jump height, while the latter has to be in a specific spot. otherwise in both situations the needle fingers on the hand will kill you.

Mecha Sonic is fairly easy too. You can get like 3/4 hits via small bounce on the front of it's head. You just have to kill it quickly because eventually it'll shoot projectiles when it spins.
 
Celebrate Nite said:
Because you can hit the chest of the Giant Mech as Sonic/Tails no problem as long as its arms aren't extended in any way. It's Knuckles in which you'll have an issue because there's really only two ways to attack it.
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I hate fighting the Death Egg Robot. No matter how many times I beat it, at least one of those encounters involves me phasing through his sprite instead of bouncing off and dying in his hitbox and I can't figure out what triggers it. But yeah Mecha Sonic is easy once you realize you can cheese out hits before it even starts to attack and avoid most of its patterns
 
Knowing how the engineers screwed over Lani Minella and the others for SA2 makes so much sense with the random Japanese words inserted plus how every cutscene went with the voices talking over each other like:

Faker? You're not good enough to I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS
*insert clip where Eggman coughs loudly to get Shadow and Rouge's attention*
 
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