Sonic The Hedgehog Games

[Neil]

Sega was always a company fucked by politics, they passed on the tech for the N64 from silicon graphics and then on doing the og playstation with sony with a 50/50 cost split all because some jap executive didnt like the other guy's business card, the kind of shit japs do and why so many japanese companies have gone to shit since the 90s

There were attempts at unfucking Sega, mark cerny was at sega and worked on a bunch of projects including sonic 2 but even he couldnt deal with the bullshit from japan's executives. Think that sega jap executives were so shit even bandai's executives couldnt handle their bullshit which is why the merger didnt happen and bandai went with namco instead

I dont even know if we should call this shit sega anymore, its clear its sammy the pachinko maker calling the shots

If what you're saying is true that pisses me off because Sega torpedoing its console business robbed us of cool, innovative, and/or fun games like Jet Set Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Gunstar Heroes etc. Now they just play it safe by releasing 1)a yearly rehash of Sonic Unleashed and 2)the same Yakuza map with a different coat of paint and a new story.

A competent Sega merging with Bandai would've been fucking sick (imagine an F-Zero GX style Cowboy Bebop ship-racing game!!! Imagine if Sunrise did a Gunstar Heroes or Skies of Arcadia adaptation!), but in reality they probably would've taken Bandai down with them. Fuck this company.

On the topic of 3D Sonic fan games.

I remember looking into Sonic Storm Zone, the PS1 ecstatic didn't appeal to me and some of the redesigns were weird but I heard good things about it though so that's why I decided to look into it.
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It looked fine but still didn't really appeal to me also for some reason Tails was a girl for some reason, something I thought I had a explanation after I found a Q&A around the game of which I skipped around in.

I was right but wrong at the same time, we all know that when one who does programing and especially if it's related to something like Mario or Sonic if they say they are a girl then they aren't.

Thought the creator was just a crazy British woman Tails a girl because they are a Emi Jones type because I've always determined if one is or not if they have a female character that are just exclusively for sex appeal especially if it's fetishy.
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Now after that video clip you can tell because of the Micky Mouse voice that I was wrong and I figured that out myself after I seen the thumbnail of an older news video where the thumbnail was just furry porn without a shred of a doubt that I was right that there are no female programmers and even if there are then they aren't making Sonic fan games.
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Also Tails has programmer socks so that was a dead give from the start.Untitled video ‐ Made with Clipchamp (5).mp4

Anyways to wrap this up, the moral of this all is that even the better Sonic fan games are still created by complete degenerates, not too say that they all are crazy but more then you would think are weirdos like this.

Ironically, Sonic Team has/had actual women as programmers. So at least they have that over the fans.

I was only able to find a short clip for the Sonic Cop video, unfortunately:
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I WAS able to find a complete version of "Sonic Meets Female Sonic", though:
Sonic Meets Female Sonic (Reupload).mp4
Apparently, refusing sex because of your "feminine penis" that your partner never told you about is TRANSPHOBIC, or some shit. Shame Mugi cucked. Now he's gonna have to walk on eggshells forever and ever.

I hope someone has the first video Mugimikey ever did where Sonic calls Eggman the N word. He edited that out like a fucking bitch.

His whole gimmick was doing edgy humor but that only ever amounts to crude drawings of asses and fart jokes now.

What would a SA3 even be like at this point to begin with.

This comes from the IGN interview with Takashi Iizuka about Frontiers.
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Now on the topic of Frontiers, here's some more blurry as gameplay of Sonic Frontiers.

First is gameplay and the second is what appears to be a cutscene.
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To accompany this clip, here is a fan mockup hud based on the one in the video.

These were by Blue Vivacity the Youtuber, I think.
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Spoiler: some more Frontiers mockup huds (pre-SummerGameFest)

Both of these were made by a person that goes by "Xenoko" who supposably is also a Youtuber.

Also I think the first is a mockup screenshot as well.
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Anyways this one is what appears to be a cutscene.
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I've been seeing this shit since yesterday, it's absolutely hysterical how desperate Sonic fans are to get any information on this game whatsoever. I'm surprised they haven't stormed the Summer Games Fest showroom and taken Geoff Keighley hostage, demanding the demo files.

I don't know why SEGA's being so secretive about this game. Journos love it (which is potentially worrying considering the shit they praise, can't lie), but this game seems to have the potential to be great (judging by their opinions). For all Nintendo's faults, they know how to play their fanboys right. Just release a trailer that tells everyone everything they need to know about the game and they'll love it.

THIS is how you do a video game ad.

You see Mario transform into a dinosaur and run around a ton of cool game worlds, Peach getting kidnapped by Bowser to get married, and hear Pauline sing a song that topped the Itunes charts for several weeks straight.
and this!

No need for vagueness here, just tell everyone what they need to hear upfront and that's it. "Everybody is here".
That's how you get eyes on your game. Not whatever this shit is.

 

[Marissa Moira]

SEGA really wants to keep this game under-wraps, through only allowing a select few people to play the demo at SGF (defeating the point of even having a booth there), to a media embargo around the game outside of IGN's approved coverage.

It does not inspire confidence around the end product, but reception to the demo appears to have been positive.

The seagulls that keep showing up in the trailers are something out of a 6th or 7th-gen console game, however. They're static, low-detailed models. Give me puzzle pieces for this, but seeing them show up is very jarring when compared to the rest of the game world.

Here's the one thing that's missing from Frontiers.

New Friends. Where the fuck are the new Sonic characters? This game just has sonic and balls.

 

[Cool Dog]

@Neil​

If what you're saying is true that pisses me off because Sega torpedoing its console business robbed us of cool, innovative, and/or fun games like Jet Set Radio, Skies of Arcadia, Gunstar Heroes etc. Now they just play it safe by releasing 1)a yearly rehash of Sonic Unleashed and 2)the same Yakuza map with a different coat of paint and a new story.

A competent Sega merging with Bandai would've been fucking sick (imagine an F-Zero GX style Cowboy Bebop ship-racing game!!! Imagine if Sunrise did a Gunstar Heroes or Skies of Arcadia adaptation!), but in reality they probably would've taken Bandai down with them. Fuck this company.

Its worse than that, think that instead of sony and silicon graphics sega went with........jvc and hitachi, who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

Think for a second: the original psx almost was the "sega playstation", sony didnt even want to make it on its own since they had already seen panasonic shit the bed with the 3do. Meanwhile both jvc and hitachi demanded sega let them make their own versions of the saturn, and sega accepted that!

Really, sega is basically like a seinfeld episode but in the shape of a multinational corporation that once had 60% of the north american game market and lost it in a generation

On the topic of 3D Sonic fan games.

I remember looking into Sonic Storm Zone, the PS1 ecstatic didn't appeal to me and some of the redesigns were weird but I heard good things about it though so that's why I decided to look into it.
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It looked fine but still didn't really appeal to me also for some reason Tails was a girl for some reason, something I thought I had a explanation after I found a Q&A around the game of which I skipped around in.

I was right but wrong at the same time, we all know that when one who does programing and especially if it's related to something like Mario or Sonic if they say they are a girl then they aren't.

Thought the creator was just a crazy British woman Tails a girl because they are a Emi Jones type because I've always determined if one is or not if they have a female character that are just exclusively for sex appeal especially if it's fetishy.
Untitled video ‐ Made with Clipchamp (4).mp4

Now after that video clip you can tell because of the Micky Mouse voice that I was wrong and I figured that out myself after I seen the thumbnail of an older news video where the thumbnail was just furry porn without a shred of a doubt that I was right that there are no female programmers and even if there are then they aren't making Sonic fan games.
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Also Tails has programmer socks so that was a dead give from the start.Untitled video ‐ Made with Clipchamp (5).mp4

Anyways to wrap this up, the moral of this all is that even the better Sonic fan games are still created by complete degenerates, not too say that they all are crazy but more then you would think are weirdos like this.

Of course its a furfag

Of course its a troon

Of course he's going with a meme like "ps1 graphics" even tho no ps1 could've run that

And the gameplay its a cheap copy of this free 3D demo game, zenith or something was the name, so not even that its original

 

[NoonmanR]

The more i look at this game the more i see Ubisoft's cold dark vile influence all over it. Breath of the Wild at least managed to avoid it by having survival aspects and dungeons but there's nothing so unique about sonic that'd make the far cry shit less obvious.

Really, sega is basically like a seinfeld episode but in the shape of a multinational corporation that once had 60% of the north american game market and lost it in a generation

You have no fucking idea the true rxtent of SEGA's incompetence. SEGA had 60% of the console business for about 3 years and pissed ALL of thr money away on things like an expensive as fuck cali campus that only ever churned out okay to shit games, experimental garbage like the VR headset that almost made it to market but didn't, and who can forget the 32x, the console that split resources of SoJ thus gimping the saturn, all because they wanted to compete with the fucking Atari Jaguar.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

all because they wanted to compete with the fucking Atari Jaguar.

I still find this fact completely fucking hilarious. Did they not see what games were on this thing and how well they did before they decided to go with the 32X? What about Atari in general did they see as a threat to their company? Atari couldn't re-take their glory days back from Sega or Nintendo after the video game crash no matter how hard they tried. Not only was the 7800 unmemorable, but the Lynx got gang-banged by the Game Boy and Game Gear.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

@Neil

Imagine if Sunrise did a Gunstar Heroes or Skies of Arcadia adaptation!

Fuck you, now I'm mad we didn't get awesome as fuck animated ship battles ending with a climactic Moonstone Cannon blast. Fuck SEGA, man.

 

[MooseGump]

And there it is, Sand Hill's lookin like Green Hill Zone now

 

[starborn427614]

Impressions from IGN Japan.

https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1535938934143868928

 

[NerdShamer]

Impressions from IGN Japan.

https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1535938934143868928

Sounds suspiciously generic, outside of becoming progressively faster

 

[Cool Dog]

You have no fucking idea the true rxtent of SEGA's incompetence. SEGA had 60% of the console business for about 3 years and pissed ALL of thr money away on things like an expensive as fuck cali campus that only ever churned out okay to shit games, experimental garbage like the VR headset that almost made it to market but didn't, and who can forget the 32x, the console that split resources of SoJ thus gimping the saturn, all because they wanted to compete with the fucking Atari Jaguar.

I still find this fact completely fucking hilarious. Did they not see what games were on this thing and how well they did before they decided to go with the 32X? What about Atari in general did they see as a threat to their company? Atari couldn't re-take their glory days back from Sega or Nintendo after the video game crash no matter how hard they tried. Not only was the 7800 unmemorable, but the Lynx got gang-banged by the Game Boy and Game Gear.

Shit I could go full on autistic about my knowledge of sega's fuckups but it would derail the whole thread, anyway whats the campus you mention? sti? because they made some really good games like the ooze and comix zone, compare that with the utter shit that was digital pictures and all the money they burned on that shit

As for the 32X yeah it was dumb but you have to remember the context: after soj forced soa to reject the offers from both silicon graphics and sony they were stuck with the saturn and devs even so far before launch could already see the nightmare that it was to code those two sh2 chips so the idea was to get people used to that shit architecture and extend the lifetime of the genesis with a cheaper option since at $400 in 1995 dollars they knew next to nobody was gonna buy one at launch

The psx launches in NA, at just $300, same date as the saturn so the retards at soj force sega to launch fucking now with no games and with the 32X barely out the gate, pissing retailers off in the process. It was a perfect storm of idiocy, the classic "consequences of my actions"

Still I guess soj didnt care since the saturn did way better in japan than the genesis ever did and they were probably more angry at both soa and soe doing better than them than at sega as a whole going to shit, the fucking idiots...

 

[Liquid Marlon]

MugiMikey is really milking these, but tbh that's not something out of the ordinary for him.

This one more then the others, and all because Takashi Iizuka subtly brought up SA3.

Also the thumbnail is pretty cringy as well.

But I do like the (unintentional) Sonic Dreams Collection Big reference.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

>be me
>find out about Sonic Runners Revival
>immediately install version 2.1 it because I fucking loved Sonic Runners before SEGA killed it
>enjoy the ever-loving shit out of it
>open up SRR today
>*you need to update the app to 2.2*
>update app
>"I wonder what new additions they added to this game?"
<PRIDE MONTH CHAO ASSISTANT

 

[starborn427614]

MugiMikey is really milking these, but tbh that's not something out of the ordinary for him.

This one more then the others, and all because Takashi Iizuka subtly brought up SA3.
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Also the thumbnail is pretty cringy as well.
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Iizuka didn't bring it up, an interviewer asked him about it. Sorry to be a Nitpicky Nathan but SonicTwitter's been sperging about this lately and it's easy for things to get lost in the mix. Anyway, Geoff said there's an embargo currently and it'll be up next week so we'll hear more impressions then.

Source:

https://twitter.com/SonicFans1996/status/1536106573864570881

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

>be me
>find out about Sonic Runners Revival
>immediately install version 2.1 it because I fucking loved Sonic Runners before SEGA killed it
>enjoy the ever-loving shit out of it
>open up SRR today
>*you need to update the app to 2.2*
>update app
>"I wonder what new additions they added to this game?"
<PRIDE MONTH CHAO ASSISTANT
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It's a lame addition at worst imo. Hardly anything to throw a fit over.

 

[NerdShamer]

It's a lame addition at worst imo. Hardly anything to throw a fit over.

Well, it's his fault for being on the internet during an established LGBT holiday.

 

[NoonmanR]

Shit I could go full on autistic about my knowledge of sega's fuckups but it would derail the whole thread, anyway whats the campus you mention? sti? because they made some really good games like the ooze and comix zone, compare that with the utter shit that was digital pictures and all the money they burned on that shit

Yeah it was. Also speaking of Sonic X-Treme was the biggest fuck up any of the subsidiaries could have ever made. The first attempt failed because they didn't really understand how the saturn worked and thought a Diamond Edge 3D card would translate perfectly, since it had quad rendering and all. The end result was a ton of half-baked ideas, a bare bones prototype and a ton of wasted time, time that they couldn't possibly make up for.

No need for vagueness here, just tell everyone what they need to hear upfront and that's it. "Everybody is here".
That's how you get eyes on your game. Not whatever this shit is.

It's a pretty big red flag. All things considered it seems like even they're worried the game might be rushed and buggy.

 

[Cool Dog]

Yeah it was. Also speaking of Sonic X-Treme was the biggest fuck up any of the subsidiaries could have ever made. The first attempt failed because they didn't really understand how the saturn worked and thought a Diamond Edge 3D card would translate perfectly, since it had quad rendering and all. The end result was a ton of half-baked ideas, a bare bones prototype and a ton of wasted time, time that they couldn't possibly make up for.


It's a pretty big red flag. All things considered it seems like even they're worried the game might be rushed and buggy.

The game also had the politics issue I was talking about before, basically sonic team was doing nights because naka was fucking done with sonic and wanted to do his own thing no matter how dumb/gay it would be, but sega needed a new sonic so people would buy the fucking saturn which sucked at 3D so the devs used the nights engine which was the only decent 3D engine they could get their hands on at the time. Nowadays it would make perfect sense for a 3D engine which is expensive shit to make, to be shared among the game studios of a company but back then I guess it wasnt that common, or maybe it was but whatever the case naka went full sperg about it and demanded the x-treme losers not use his engine, and because the japanese had them by the balls the yanks had to eat shit and comply which basically derailed the whole project

IIRC the diamond card version was because at the time soa created segapc and wanted to publish games for the PC as 3D cards were booming and they needed another platform for their games as the saturn was shitting the bed so xtreme was also being developed for the PC

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's a lame addition at worst imo. Hardly anything to throw a fit over.

Fuck them for pushing fag shit into entertainment, and fuck people who condone it.

 

[starborn427614]

Impressions are starting to come out. Stay tuned for more.

 

[Two Dollars]

https://nintendoeverything.com/sega-not-surprised-by-initial-reaction-to-sonic-frontiers-no-plans-for-a-delay/

Iizuka said:

“It’s not really that surprising. We do realize everyone is just kind of reacting to the videos that they saw, and because they don’t understand what this new gameplay is they’re kind of comparing it to other games that they already know. So we do see a lot of people saying, ‘oh, it’s kind of like this, it’s kind of like that, but it’s not like this, it’s not like that’. And really, the team is going out and creating this new game format for Sonic, and we’re calling it an ‘open zone’ format. And this new game system itself is something that doesn’t really exist in any other comparable titles, so we really hope that from here until launch we can really explain what open zone gameplay is.”
“If people come to Gamescom or Tokyo Game Show, [they can] get that hands-on experience to play the game and understand what the game is. Because right now we’re just kind of watching videos of people reacting to what they believe the game to be.”

That’s a lot of words to say “the fans are wrong they just don’t understand my GENIUS”. Maybe if Iizuka thinks the gameplay videos are misleading and don’t accurately represent the game, Sega shouldn’t have approved them?

Or maybe this is an elaborate long con by IG “Sonic was never good” N to make everyone think the game is empty and boring