Sonic The Hedgehog Games

[AbduluCthuluZulu]

Sonic Omens: apparently this game is very hated and very controversial because the dev team kept development updates behind a patreon, and apparently the Maria model in game is wearing panties that say "bad girl" that you can't see in the game but somehow people found that out. which I guess is just a weird joke, Idk the people who made it are russian maybe they're just a bunch of pedophiles out there I don't know, it isn't funny but I also don't give a shit. This game is fucking weird. it looks very good. you could have told me it was the next game after unleashed (it is supposed to be storywise) from sega and I'd probably believe you. the voice acting sucks, but the cutscenes are very nice. the story is unintentionally hilarious it's grimdark in really retarded ways that had me cracking up throughout. that little faggot kid from Sonic X is grown and a gun agent and shit there's weird stuff in here. the sonic levels are pretty good but really basic. the tails levels are a crime against humanity though it's the worst flying a ship controls I have ever experienced. the boss fights are also too long. it's 7 episodes long which is probably like 20 levels total or something so good on them for making a game that takes longer to beat than forces. very ambitious, almost awesome but the ship levels and the wonky fan game physics along with how linear the paths are hold it down. I actually dug the weird ass story because it was just odd. A for presentation and ambition C- for game. it's wonky bad physics boost gameplay, it would be a solid B but there's this fucking level where you climb this tree and under it is all this water and it just fucking sucks. story is an A+ because they kill that Chris kid from Sonic X. I was laughing my ass off when I realized that happened.

I loved Omens for all these reasons pretty much, and the physics reminded me a lot of the Adventure/Heroes era movement but with boost added. Janky, but no caps or limits, which is how I've always preferred the blue blur. Also, my favorite levels are Shadow's hands down. They have all the hammy, edgy charm of Shadow the Hedgehog and 06 but with better gameplay and graphics. My only gripes outside of Tails' levels were how slow and repetitive the first phase of final boss was, and the fact that the game is also a sequel to Sonic X despite being mainly billed as a sequel to Unleashed, so I was left confused for the last half of the story since I never watched the snow.

 

[el bandito loco]

I loved Omens for all these reasons pretty much, and the physics reminded me a lot of the Adventure/Heroes era movement but with boost added. Janky, but no caps or limits, which is how I've always preferred the blue blur. Also, my favorite levels are Shadow's hands down. They have all the hammy, edgy charm of Shadow the Hedgehog and 06 but with better gameplay and graphics. My only gripes outside of Tails' levels were how slow and repetitive the first phase of final boss was, and the fact that the game is also a sequel to Sonic X despite being mainly billed as a sequel to Unleashed, so I was left confused for the last half of the story since I never watched the snow.

yeah to be totally honest with you, I sort of loved it too. I stand by my C rating but outside the Tails ship levels I really really liked playing it. the movement was janky and shitty but that was a big part of the charm of it. the Dreamcast games have that too. they're more polished but Omens gave me the same kind of OH FUCK and quick homing attack or in Omens' case boost back to the platform I should be on I have everytime I play those and end up fucking around too much and almost die. I agree on Shadow's levels, they ruled. that boss fight against maria was awesome for the sheer edge and holy fuck of it. the Sonic X connection really sold it for me personally, because I'm young/old enough to have watched SatAM & AoStH in reruns, I read Archie until I was like 13, (Underground was on when I was a kid and I guess no network aired it where I live because I didn't see it until I was like 20 and my gf at the time bought me a dvd of it as a gag gift, but I had the Denny's' dolls of Sonic & Knuckles from it so I know I was around when it was on, I remember begging for those) but was still an elementary schooler when Sonic X was on and I was also buying it's comic for a little while. Sonic X was on Fox Kids when they rebranded to FOXBOX and it was the only show I watched on there outside of Ultimate Muscle.

Sonic X doesn't hold up at all, but as a kid it was cool because they adapted Sonic Adventure and SA2 and I was super into it. I tried to watch it with my girl before the second movie and it's fucking horrible mostly and the Chris kid is a big part of it so him getting whacked in Omens was almost cathartic for me. lol but I appreciated the ambition of trying to tie that shit into the games, and that all of it's flaws made it literally feel like a sonic game.

 

[Two Dollars]

Speaking of fan games, a while back someone made a recreation of the GBA’s Tiny Chao Garden that can import/export Chao in the same file format used in SA2B, effectively giving Tiny Chao Garden support to that game. The dev dropped the project, but it does have everything the SA2B version of TCG had.

Sonic X doesn't hold up at all, but as a kid it was cool because they adapted Sonic Adventure and SA2 and I was super into it. I tried to watch it with my girl before the second movie and it's fucking horrible mostly and the Chris kid is a big part of it so him getting whacked in Omens was almost cathartic for me. lol but I appreciated the ambition of trying to tie that shit into the games, and that all of it's flaws made it literally feel like a sonic game.

Did you watch the 4Kids dub or Japanese? Not that it suddenly becomes amazing or anything, but there’s a huge gap in quality between S1 English and S3 Japanese, including Chris actually being competent.

 

[el bandito loco]

Did you watch the 4Kids dub or Japanese? Not that it suddenly becomes amazing or anything, but there’s a huge gap in quality between S1 English and S3 Japanese, including Chris actually being competent.

the dub. I knew my woman wasn't going to sit through a Sonic cartoon in japanese. other animes she will, but she already has very little interest in a little blue dude who runs to the right. I've heard that the original version is better before, and considered watching it on my own time like that. I've also heard it's essentially exactly the same minus a few specific episodes that the context is totally different or something. Chris being a more competent character would probably be enough to get me to like it more than I do now. I don't hate it or anything, it's better than Sonic Underground (unless you count Tamers SU show lol) I might give it another shot in it's original form down the line.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

I don't hate it or anything, it's better than Sonic Underground (unless you count Tamers SU show lol)

Funnily enough in the two reviews of Sonic X I've seen on Youtube, one ended with how it's "not as bad as Underground" and the other ended with how "even Underground is vastly superior".

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

Funnily enough in the two reviews of Sonic X I've seen on Youtube, one ended with how it's "not as bad as Underground" and the other ended with how "even Underground is vastly superior".

Here's a better idea, watch the stupid/vastly superior OVA. It has a catgirl in it.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

Here's a better idea, watch the stupid/vastly superior OVA. It has a catgirl in it.

Never properly watched it but the soundtrack sounds absolutely amazing.

 

[el bandito loco]

Here's a better idea, watch the stupid/vastly superior OVA. It has a catgirl in it.

the OVA rules I had it on tape as a kid and watched it all the time.

Funnily enough in the two reviews of Sonic X I've seen on Youtube, one ended with how it's "not as bad as Underground" and the other ended with how "even Underground is vastly superior".

Underground sucks. Sonic X isn't great but I have no idea how anyone could think Underground was better.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

the OVA rules I had it on tape as a kid and watched it all the time.

Underground sucks. Sonic X isn't great but I have no idea how anyone could think Underground was better.

Underground may not be the worst thing out there IMO, but it's certainly really weird.

The fact that they decided to make a SATAM style show set in it's own seperate universe a year after Adventure released and Sega started to push the original Japanese continuity worldwide is probably the biggest reason. That and the fact it was only made because they figured out that they could turn a profit by including a music video into EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

 

[el bandito loco]

Underground may not be the worst thing out there IMO, but it's certainly really weird.

The fact that they decided to make a SATAM style show set in it's own seperate universe a year after Adventure released and Sega started to push the original Japanese continuity worldwide is probably the biggest reason. That and the fact it was only made because they figured out that they could turn a profit by including a music video into EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.

I don't think Underground is the worst thing either, but I think it's the worst Sonic cartoon. the music shit was really fucking stupid and knowing WHY they did it just makes it so much worse, such a cynical cash grab. my favorite is probably Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog but I get why SatAM and X have cult followings to this day. Underground is like a weird footnote in Sonic history. It doesn't help I didn't see it until I was an adult but was aware of it forever. whereas AoStH, SatAM, and X I watched and enjoyed all of as a kid. I haven't seen Sonic Prime yet but I did recently watch a little bit of BOOM after only knowing it from the shitty Wii U game and it's pretty funny I like it well enough.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

The best thing about Underground is that Sonic's singing voice is provided by Sam Vincent, who also voiced Edd from Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy, so it's basically Double D singing:

 

[Mossy Trash Panda]

Some IDW Sonic Stans are getting downright feral, and sending death threats to everyone outside their circle. One of them was Kuta, and since i'm still in contact with him, I figired that he had a right to know in case this lunatic was serious for a change, and they'll try to put the cow out to pasture.

 

[JesusChristDenton]

Some IDW Sonic Stans are getting downright feral, and sending death threats to everyone outside their circle. One of them was Kuta, and since i'm still in contact with him, I figired that he had a right to know in case this lunatic was serious for a change, and they'll try to put the cow out to pasture.

So much for being better than "spastic archietards".

 

[AlmightyMagichan]

I'm sure everyone would be heartbroken if Kuta died, especially Sally.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

I could never get into the comics even when I was younger, always felt like they were too much of a hassle. The Fleetway comics sort of interest me due to how different they are to everything else but I haven't read anything from those yet.

Anyways, here's some more news about Sonic x Shadow Generations. New screenshots of Kingdom Valley dropped, as well as of the Dreamcast Sonic model being used in Green Hill.

The remix for Kingdom Valley got leaked in its entirety. It seems to be done by Richard Jacques studio.

The cover artwork for the game got updated on the Nintendo e-Shop. I hope it doesn't reflect a change of the physical box art, because this new design is awful, it's just way too busy.

The old one:

 

[el bandito loco]

Some IDW Sonic Stans are getting downright feral, and sending death threats to everyone outside their circle. One of them was Kuta, and since i'm still in contact with him, I figired that he had a right to know in case this lunatic was serious for a change, and they'll try to put the cow out to pasture.

why would anyone care this much about someone disliking anything? lmfao I like plenty of shit people hate and I couldn't care less. I hate plenty of shit people like and I hope they don't care either. jesus christ, get it together. if you find yourself in a parasocial relationship with a comic book, or a movie, or a show or whatever, and particularly if it's cartoon animal characters, it's probably time for you to end it. taking that so seriously is unhealthy and you'll probably never recover and be normal. "what gives me life" it's a cartoon book for children you retard go get a life.

 

[starborn427614]

I could never get into the comics even when I was younger, always felt like they were too much of a hassle. The Fleetway comics sort of interest me due to how different they are to everything else but I haven't read anything from those yet.

Anyways, here's some more news about Sonic x Shadow Generations. New screenshots of Kingdom Valley dropped, as well as of the Dreamcast Sonic model being used in Green Hill.
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The remix for Kingdom Valley got leaked in its entirety. It seems to be done by Richard Jacques studio.
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The cover artwork for the game got updated on the Nintendo e-Shop. I hope it doesn't reflect a change of the physical box art, because this new design is awful, it's just way too busy.
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The old one:
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Kingdom Valley's looking good. I wonder what other levels we'll be getting? I imagine there'll at least be one from Forces since that's like the only other notable game with Shadow besides his own title.

 

[Nguyen Van Phuoc]

Kingdom Valley's looking good. I wonder what other levels we'll be getting? I imagine there'll at least be one from Forces since that's like the only other notable game with Shadow besides his own title.

I believe this game takes place before Forces, so anything from that game likely won’t be happening, although no one said anything about definitely not Mephiles the Time Eater throwing shit from the future from who knows.
I have my faith in you so I think there’s two levels we haven’t seen yet. One of these will definitely be from Shadow as there’s no level like that yet. My guess is that it’s either going to be Black Comet or Prison Island. Either they’ll choose both of these or they can pull Asteroid Coaster (he gave Sonic missions in Colors DS) or pull a stage from the Rivals games, which don’t seem like likely choices to me.

EDIT: Just realized I was replying to you, sorry I thought I was talking to someone else lmfao

 

[Two Dollars]

the dub. I knew my woman wasn't going to sit through a Sonic cartoon in japanese. other animes she will, but she already has very little interest in a little blue dude who runs to the right. I've heard that the original version is better before, and considered watching it on my own time like that. I've also heard it's essentially exactly the same minus a few specific episodes that the context is totally different or something. Chris being a more competent character would probably be enough to get me to like it more than I do now. I don't hate it or anything, it's better than Sonic Underground (unless you count Tamers SU show lol) I might give it another shot in it's original form down the line.

It’s not going to make you like the show if you completely disliked it from the start, but if your opinion is that it’s “good ideas with poor execution” then, well, there’s your better execution.

I don’t know if you watched season 3 specifically, but the story goes in a different direction. The whole thing except part of the first episode takes place in Sonic’s world IN SPAAACE!!! instead of Earth with Chris being the only human (except Eggman, but you know what I mean). There’s a six month time skip after S2 ended, but due to how different dimensions work, it’s been six years in Chris’s world; he’s now a mature adult and genius scientist (not Tails or Eggman level, but still smart enough to build a dimensional portal) whose body reverted back to a 12 year old after going to Sonic’s world.

As for “Japanese vs. English”, I made a post about that in the game censorship thread about… two years ago?? Christ.

If we’re talking about the easy target that is 4Kids, Sonic X was maybe a distant second to One Piece for how badly it was treated, despite being a more kid-friendly show to begin with. First, it has the usual offenders such as breasts covered up, alcohol replaced, swearing left out, gunfire replaced with pew pew laser sounds, and all lewd references removed.
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But then it goes much further; off the top of my head, entire scenes are removed, emotional moments such as characters crying are removed (the ending of the final battle in particular is completely butchered), all Japanese text is either removed or replaced with jibberish (I don’t think they even bother replacing it with English text, leading to dialogue inconsistencies), references to real-life things such as paintings are replaced with knockoffs, references to other Sonic games/shows are removed (for example, one villain’s death in season 3 is a massive callback to Metal Sonic’s death in the 90s OVA, but it’s completely removed in the dub), the list goes on. And that’s not even counting the mistranslations, like the dub writers thinking “chaos control” was the name of Eggman’s base. There are so many changes that someone made an 8 part series detailing all of them, about 2.5 hours long, arc by arc.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KLwTvGARwWwOh, and you can thank 4Kids for the whole “gotta go fast” thing.

 

[el bandito loco]

It’s not going to make you like the show if you completely disliked it from the start, but if your opinion is that it’s “good ideas with poor execution” then, well, there’s your better execution.

I don’t know if you watched season 3 specifically, but the story goes in a different direction. The whole thing except part of the first episode takes place in Sonic’s world IN SPAAACE!!! instead of Earth with Chris being the only human (except Eggman, but you know what I mean). There’s a six month time skip after S2 ended, but due to how different dimensions work, it’s been six years in Chris’s world; he’s now a mature adult and genius scientist (not Tails or Eggman level, but still smart enough to build a dimensional portal) whose body reverted back to a 12 year old after going to Sonic’s world.

I didn't hate it, I liked it as a kid it was just harder to go back to then I thought it would be. I saw Season 3 when it came out, but I was about the age I stopped caring about cartoons and stuff. I liked it but my memories of it are a lot more vague over the first two because at that point I was just watching it with my younger sister not really because I wanted to anymore. definitely sounds like the changes were more substantial than I was led to believe. I found a torrent of the original version pretty easily I'll probably give it a go this winter when I have nothing to go and do and have more time inside just watching tv.