Something Awful and Friends - The roller-coaster train-wreck embarrassing downfall of a Web 1.0 giant and its tick offspring like from Cloverfield

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TT actually admitted this backdoor existed in a moment of anger, but it didn't come to light until he began doing damage control on the SA thread:

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I don't know how to discord, what's the story with the last screenshot? Did some foreign, non English speaking discord group, unrelated to SA/goons, somehow get associated with the goonbot, and TT got extremely mad that he couldn't eavesdrop on some conversations cuz they were in a language he didn't understand?
Cuz, lol, if what eventually took down the ultra woke, nazi-hunting, discord ruler, was his hatred of a small group of foreign refugees washing up on the shores of his virtual goon state

It doesnt have the grotesque spectacle of some fetish's or the logical relatability of other I cannot think of anything which turns me on less than Findom without breaking moral codes.
It seems like it's basically "give me money for doing nothing except maybe verbally shit all over you, say how worthless you are, and ask for more". So basically, his income generation model for SA
 
The other problem with handover of power in Autocracy is that it either the ruler appoints their successor - this actually sometimes goes well, but often results in issues unless the ruler has been preparing for this for a while; the tl;dr is that if you trust your son enough to softly transition power before its time, it means you trust him to not murder your, and that's usually a sign of stability both politically and environmentally. But this assumes a competent leader who is able to inspire others, so lets assume that doesnt' apply to lowtax.

The other way is that the leader calls a council of advisors and power-holders to help select his successor. The problem with this model is that in short order the council never ends up selecting the best leader, they select the leader they think that they can control. Early Islam had a hilarious instance of this where they elected a dude who was really fucking ancient as the 2nd or 3rd caliph, thinking he'd croak in a couple years and they could come back to the selection council after consolidating support, but the bastard ended up living to be like fucking 90.
Well let's be glad that we don't live under that type of system of government at least in more developed first-world countries anyway.
 
Cuz, lol, if what eventually took down the ultra woke, nazi-hunting, discord ruler, was his hatred of a small group of foreign refugees washing up on the shores of his virtual goon state
The problem with TT isnt even that hes woke or a Nazi hunter, hes just a cuck who will bend the knee to whatever flavor of the month group he thinks will prop up his dying empire of dirt.
 
I don't know how to discord, what's the story with the last screenshot? Did some foreign, non English speaking discord group, unrelated to SA/goons, somehow get associated with the goonbot, and TT got extremely mad that he couldn't eavesdrop on some conversations cuz they were in a language he didn't understand?
Cuz, lol, if what eventually took down the ultra woke, nazi-hunting, discord ruler, was his hatred of a small group of foreign refugees washing up on the shores of his virtual goon state


It seems like it's basically "give me money for doing nothing except maybe verbally shit all over you, say how worthless you are, and ask for more". So basically, his income generation model for SA
Well the only thing you have to know about Discord is that it's a cesspool of speds that make great comedy material for everyone else to laugh at.
 
Agreed. Videogames is the stupidest, blandest, most blueballed useless limp-handed imbecile in the history of SA mods and that is saying something. If you need someone to point at for the state of the game forums being a fucking glioblastoma of extreme-left tumblerettes mingling around like they were normal people and banning anyone daring to call them on their shit, there you go. Good luck posting anything on that forum and not being probbed for wrongthink in less than a day.
the games forums is full of the most tremendously worthless ineffectual people. the best i think is the people who beleive its ablist to not have toggles to get rid of things like bugs or underwater sections b/c it excludes those who have "serious phobias". then they get mad at people who laugh and think its insane to consider that on the same level as features for actually disabled people. my dudes if youre that much of a pussy just get it over with and kill yourself
 
re: Shit about how an internet community should be run, autocracies, etc.

Personally, I think it's a bit of a mistake to draw any comparisons at all between internet moderators and national governments. The purpose of governance is different, the stakes are different, the mechanics of human interaction are different, the general hostility level of everybody involved is different. Governments exist (in their ideal form) to keep society productive and peaceful while removing genuinely bad people from society on a strictly case-by-case basis; internet moderators exist (in almost every case) to cultivate their community's image by immediately removing anybody who causes any disruption. You can't run an internet forum like you run a country, because an internet forum is not a fucking country.

It's a difficult discussion to have, because the internet and the way people use it has changed so much even in just the past decade. I'll start by talking about 2000s-era internet. Everything about onlining in the aughts can be summarized by a single meme that was very popular during those years:

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The old internet was known by every user to be a den of misinformation, faggotry, and the rotating wireframe skull gif. There were no girls on the internet. Nothing was meant to be taken seriously. Anonymity was strongly encouraged and very often enforced. People would DoS each other and each other's websites as a prank rather than as an actual attack. Shitposting was a universal pastime. The "e/n" thread tag was created on Something Awful to denote a matter that was of every importance to the OP and of no importance to anybody else on the internet. Y'know, serious real-life business, like teenage relationship drama. Whenever people asked the internet for advice on these life-or-death matters, the discussion went like this:
  • OP: "Help my girlfriend isn't answering my calls this morning and I've tried a dozen times so she definitely knows it's important, what should I do?????"
    • Replies: "Kill her, then yourself"
  • OP: "My best friend molested me and he's fucking my 15 year old sister right now, what should I do?????"
    • Replies: "Kill them, then yourself"
  • OP: "My mom walked in on me right as I climaxed and I think I tagged her face and now she's gone to her room and I can hear her crying, what should I do?????"
    • Replies: "Kill her, then yourself, but leave the front door unlocked so I can come bang her one last time"
  • OP: "I'm trying to weigh the stopping power of these two different lines of black-market flechette shells against the risk of damaging my shotgun's choke tube next time I have to go out and scare off the puckin thieves, any advice?????"
    • Replies: "Kill them, then yourse-- holy shit he actually did it"
On the old internet, it wasn't a coincidence that Something Awful was run by a mercurial screaming asshole. It was expected. It made sense. If you wanted fairness or transparency or accountability, you were encouraged to try going outside for a change.

There were no actual communities on the old internet -- or at least, no neurotypical ones. The old internet was a stupid toy that you played with when you were alone in your dorm room and wanted to be an anonymous asshole to other anonymous assholes with no real-life consequences to yourself or to anybody else. iexplore.exe was a big dumb video game like every other program on your computer. There were people who lived on the internet and took it completely seriously -- such as furries, hackers, and conspiracy theorists -- but we either ignored those people or trolled the shit out of them at every chance.

That was the old internet. If you went back in time to the mid-2000s and told any of us how incredibly gay the internet was going to become in 15 years, none of us would have believed you. This the new internet:

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The people who live on the internet are still complete fuckups, but there are more of them. They've also developed some shared cultural norms and beliefs that have fucked them up even further:
  • Contrary to external appearance they are not spoiled white manchildren; they are oppressed minorities and the entire world is against them.
  • They live on the internet because the "Outside" is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist, capitalist and fascist, and the internet is the only place where they can have a safe space. Telling a minority to go outside is denial of their oppression; banning a minority is literal murder.
  • As oppressed minorities, they have a right and a duty to fight back using any means that they happen to come up with. Oppressive person. Fair game. May be tricked, sued, lied to, or destroyed.
  • Questioning any of the above is oppression and bigotry.
Also, you're not allowed to laugh at them anymore because their friends and sympathizers work for the megacorporations that run huge swaths of the internet.

There are still no girls on the internet; you're just not allowed to say so anymore. Anything you post is at risk of being glued to your forehead for eternity both on the internet and in real life, whether or not you think you're posting anonymously. Oversharing is not simply encouraged; in many communities it is a requirement before anybody will listen to you. Posting about somebody else, whether in the same internet community or in another, is violence and thus warrants a violent response. Every shitposter plies his craft under the sword of Damocles, ever in fear of that inevitable moment when the horsehair snaps and that particular social network's "Trust and Safety Team" silently descends -- always final in its judgment, with no prior warning or notice given whatsoever.

On the new internet, it's no wonder that people -- specifically, those people who spend their every waking hour on the internet -- demand a different kind of leader than the kind that thrived on the old internet. The internet isn't where they have fun like normal people did back in the olden days; the internet is where they exist. So they need their rulers to be fair, transparent, and accountable. Most importantly -- and most fatally, since they're literally fucking insane -- they need to feel like they're safe, loved, and in control.

And I just don't feel like there's any real-world governmental model that works for that. None that hasn't ended in horror, anyway.
 
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Look it's really simple.
You wake up and look in the mirror, you see a sad, 30-something pathetic loser without a dime to his credit. You're self-aware enough to know you should've off better, but aren't because (insert excuse). This gets you down something awful, you take refuge on the internet, where none of this matters.
You get attention (for virtue signaling, for saying the right shit to the right morons) and you get a modicum of appreciation, the stuff you'd never get IRL. Then you're given "power" over other people, power to silence them, to banish them if needed.
You enjoy this shit, you forget about your IRL issues, you project this character and keep doing it until eventually, the only people allowed to talk to you are shameless sycophants or braindead reactionaries. Everyone else has been banned.
This is you, you're a miserable troon failure, but that's fine because you've carved out a hole on the internet where others may adore you and defend your interests.
 
Look it's really simple.
You wake up and look in the mirror, you see a sad, 30-something pathetic loser without a dime to his credit. You're self-aware enough to know you should've off better, but aren't because (insert excuse). This gets you down something awful, you take refuge on the internet, where none of this matters.
You get attention (for virtue signaling, for saying the right shit to the right morons) and you get a modicum of appreciation, the stuff you'd never get IRL. Then you're given "power" over other people, power to silence them, to banish them if needed.
You enjoy this shit, you forget about your IRL issues, you project this character and keep doing it until eventually, the only people allowed to talk to you are shameless sycophants or braindead reactionaries. Everyone else has been banned.
This is you, you're a miserable troon failure, but that's fine because you've carved out a hole on the internet where others may adore you and defend your interests.

You make a good point, save for one problem right here:

but that's fine because you've carved out a hole on the internet where others may adore you and defend your interests.

That only holds true if the people you are talking about are sane. People who are borderline, schizophrenic, depressed, etc. will always get in their heads some ultimate goal that will surely make them happy -- that will surely bring color back to this horrible nightmare world that their broken brains convinced them they are trapped in -- and they will fight tooth and nail to attain that goal. The instant they get what they want, the instant they taste victory, it turns to ash in their mouths and they find themselves scrambling to invent a new goal. For the truly mentally ill there is no happiness; there is no satisfaction; there is no fulfillment; there is only more. More, at any and every cost to themselves and everyone around them.

I hope you never have to deal with people who are genuinely mentally ill. They are black holes.
 
Wouldn't he have to be the one taking the screenshot of him paying Logan for "ads" or whatever? Why would he do that?

But honestly, mostly I don't believe he'd share his money with anybody. He's a greedy fuck, and Logan's too dumb to do something that would actually make her money.
 
I can only imagine the zingers of wit and hilarity that Richard and Logan must be passing back and forth in private communications. :smug:
 
Wouldn't he have to be the one taking the screenshot of him paying Logan for "ads" or whatever? Why would he do that?

But honestly, mostly I don't believe he'd share his money with anybody. He's a greedy fuck, and Logan's too dumb to do something that would actually make her money.
Evidence for the courts that Logan is not his girlfriend, but is instead his serious employee, whom he pays over venmo instead of through any actual payroll system
 
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