Emperor Julian
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I agree with this statement.
I agree with this statement and like your joke about pog being a loser.
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I agree with this statement.
I agree with this statement and like your joke about pog being a loser.
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urmom
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Having post ratings on SA would be amazing just to watch the butt hurt over people who think they're brilliant have their posts rated crap. The rating fights between goons would be hilarious.
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The Cracked forums had (maybe still have) a "karma" system whereby a tally of each poster's upvotes/downvotes was visible below their avatar. To try to prevent abuse, you could only (anonymously) upvote or downvote each user's posts once per day. However, Cracked readers, being the angry children that they are, started creating bot accounts with scripts to "stalk" users with automated daily downvotes and crank their own karma up via their own sockpuppets. Complaining about any of this was bannable. I left the Cracked forums over a decade ago, but logged back in a couple of years ago out of curiosity to find my account's karma was in the negative thousands, despite being about -300 when I left and having not posted in about 8 years since - those bots still dutifully doing their jobs.
If SA moves to a post rating system, I give it a week before this starts happening.
If SA moves to a post rating system, I give it a week before this starts happening.
Boss Bass
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So that’s our future then?
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The TDS thread has quite a few maga bois who
real hard about the left, so it's certainly not impossible. Same deal as lowtax and SA though, if kiwifarms is left to fester and rot the lolcows will eventually be coming from inside the house.
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So basically lowtax should do it cause they will drop money for bot accounts
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Koalas is a disgrace. Some mod!
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No, since the initial statement is a vast exaggeration. Of course there's always /pol/, but go to one of /n/'s train or /tg/'s elfen waifu threads and start ranting about black people, they'll laugh you out of the room or the message gets deleted because it's off topic.
It's the same thing here.
SA is fucked though since you can drag politics into every topic and people then start acting super serious as if it were a fire drill.
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Couldnt the dude just get a new server and keep the old one up, but on the back end, lock threads within the past year that have been inactive for more than like 3 months and migrate those over to the new server, make a sticky thread explaining this and that they will be reopened on the new server, just in case someone does go back like 10 pages to talk about something stupid since GBS is a cesspool full of nothing but "ironically wacky, zany threads" and the first five pages are all active threads.
Then when it's all done, you let them know youre going to close the forums for like 12-36 hours or however long it will take to move over the remaining threads, then have the forum just redirect to the new server, and either ditch the old one or host the archives and shit on that. You could sell more "Archives" access because it's not like you can see posts older than a year without it anyway and most people wont notice because I dont think a lot of people are looking at it.
Fuck does the SA search function still not work? I remember it costs money and didnt work properly for the longest time; at least one other goon, maybe more set up their own search function that ran on some google-search like system externally, and worked better than the one on SA's on forum.
I dont really know how exactly it works or why he doesnt do it, or how it would "break the forums". But he would have more control over the site, be in charge again (which he doesnt want I guess), the forums would be more modern and people have asked for some of the features like userstyles and shit, they would get that. I think the stickers would make it more insular and clique-y than it already is, probably, and run people off but they already do that with bans and probations for wrongthink, its just based on usernames and people remembering, and you cant actually quantify it--but it would be a little more self policing and they wouldnt need to run to the mods to ban people as much, although Im sure the mods want to. Plus you would actually be able to search on the new forum engine.
I guess I dont know how he'd charge for all the forum features he loves to charge for. Hell tell him he could find a way to charge for all the stuff he already does, but also sell users "themes" for like $3 a piece, and you suddenly have thousands of goons spending 3 dollars, probably.
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ZDR is MIA
I only hope that stupid faggot died painfully.
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1) Creating a new forum and sending the old one into read-only mode is work. Fuck that noise. Lowtax is a jokesman not a computer janitor, and too busy having sex to do that. Lowtax has never had to work for his SA bux, its a digital monument to his laziness. Hell if you believe the lore the $10 gate fee was put in place because he was too lazy to deal with a gimmick troll properly. But having never had to work for the money coming from SA, he doesn't respect it, so thinks almost nothing of burning an extra grand or two of it on hosting costs every month.
2) The real, legit fear is that the combination of 12-24 hours of downtime + new interface + old posts being in a separate system will implode something awful as angry autistic trannies go elsewhere.
SA runs on inertia. People only post there because there is an (dwindling) audience, they only have an audience because that audience has been logging in daily for years, and most have not other life than SA. You do anything, ANYTHING to disrupt that routine, and people will find something better else to do. And "more fun and rewarding than posting on SA in 2018" isn't a very high bar to jump. And that doesn't count the people who won't like the new interface, and also decide "this isn't what I'm used to" and also leave.
An SA reboot would also reveal how much of a ghosttown most of the forum is now. Most forums don't even have a first page of threads updated in the last day or more.
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TRIANGLE MAN Also since we're spitballing "how Lowtax can fix SA" for the fiftieth time in this thread, I threw together a really cut and dry roadmap of sorts a few months back, which I'm quoting below. It's still the "most correct" course of action, and it's here in case Lowtax secretly reads this thread and wants to pretend to give a shit about his dead gay comedy forum.
Anime is Blood
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The TL : DR of his most recent whine fest in QCS is that he can't turn Xenforo into "Give Lowtax Money: Xenforo Edition" by slapping a monetary cost on all of the built in features.
He tried to frame it as "Something Awful Losing It's Unique and Irreplaceable Traditions" even though it's the same exact features just twenty years out of date that don't work and cost money.
If it was about anything other than trying to support a middle aged alcoholic with two families that refuses to get a job there would be no reason to demand that viewing old posts should cost $10, or private messaging should cost $10, or an Avatar should cost $5.
If he didn't want to create a Store based Forum with the primary purpose of supporting him then goons could have had Xenforo or something better years ago.
He tried to frame it as "Something Awful Losing It's Unique and Irreplaceable Traditions" even though it's the same exact features just twenty years out of date that don't work and cost money.
If it was about anything other than trying to support a middle aged alcoholic with two families that refuses to get a job there would be no reason to demand that viewing old posts should cost $10, or private messaging should cost $10, or an Avatar should cost $5.
If he didn't want to create a Store based Forum with the primary purpose of supporting him then goons could have had Xenforo or something better years ago.
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"There's no way to monetize/incentivize X on XenForo."
This is blatantly false.
Perhaps not right out of the box there's a way to do this, but with a little bit of (gasp) investment a custom plugin or framework could be created and installed to a hypothetical XenForo-based SA. Maybe there's a way to just straight up connect profile changes to a credit card form like SA has right now, but Null has demonstrated that it's possible to add a localized currency function to a board (it just doesn't do anything here). If SA instituted a site-wide "currency" you could just buy this currency and then redeem it through your profile page on the forum for things like avatars or banners or whatever.
That might even be a better course of action for Lowtax because it would be like buying gift cards. Once you exchange your money for SA tokens or whatever Lowtax gets his money and if you never redeem them then who cares, he got paid. He'd probably even be enough of a dick to blank someone's unused credits if they get banned so they'd have to buy them again.
Again it just takes actual work, and that's why it'll never happen.
This is blatantly false.
Perhaps not right out of the box there's a way to do this, but with a little bit of (gasp) investment a custom plugin or framework could be created and installed to a hypothetical XenForo-based SA. Maybe there's a way to just straight up connect profile changes to a credit card form like SA has right now, but Null has demonstrated that it's possible to add a localized currency function to a board (it just doesn't do anything here). If SA instituted a site-wide "currency" you could just buy this currency and then redeem it through your profile page on the forum for things like avatars or banners or whatever.
That might even be a better course of action for Lowtax because it would be like buying gift cards. Once you exchange your money for SA tokens or whatever Lowtax gets his money and if you never redeem them then who cares, he got paid. He'd probably even be enough of a dick to blank someone's unused credits if they get banned so they'd have to buy them again.
Again it just takes actual work, and that's why it'll never happen.
urmom
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A lot of the upgrades and purchases on SA are automated so they'd have to be coded into Xenforo and lowtax doesn't have the skills and won't pay someone to do it.
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You mean the traditions he is allowing the user base to actively destroy because they've grown up and its CURRENT YEAR +2?
(Yes, yes we both know that what Lowtax really means is the true founding principal of SA, the only one he actually cares about: Giving lowtax money for doing nothing)
Found the flaw in your plan.
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The postrating system cut down immensely on a plague of people just saying "I agree" or empty-quoting which is an immediate tell that someone is from SA because that's the only forum which has absolutely no way to agree with a post without just saying you agree with a post.
4chan give us shit for it because post voting is a very reddit thing but it's necessary. IB threads are 300~750 posts long and are pruned almost immediately, everyone gets a chance to say whatever because turnover is so high. If you want any chance for a thread to be legible, you need a way to throw out junk posts. Imagine this 555 page thread if we didn't have ratings, it'd probably be twice the size. And yes, some people do read through threads that are hundreds of pages long when they're bored.
4chan give us shit for it because post voting is a very reddit thing but it's necessary. IB threads are 300~750 posts long and are pruned almost immediately, everyone gets a chance to say whatever because turnover is so high. If you want any chance for a thread to be legible, you need a way to throw out junk posts. Imagine this 555 page thread if we didn't have ratings, it'd probably be twice the size. And yes, some people do read through threads that are hundreds of pages long when they're bored.
Emperor Julian
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Personally I think it cuts back on thread de-rails because it's lets you state someone is
without opening up a conversation.