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Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging
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You know, just by seeing the pictures of some of these people alongside the messages they write, I'm immediately clued in to what they must be like. For example, the "Fuck Anne Frank,tbh" girl with the very America-centric view of slavery. Read her posts and look at her profile pictures on the screen and tell me that clue you in even more than the text as to what they must be like IRL. The screen caps in Randall Fragg's post are also a good example. Do you see where I'm going here?
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I laughed at some of the comments. Especially "This is why I need Patriarchy".
I think Hitler said something along the lines of "The trick to fascism is that it forces those who oppose it to emulate it". I've got that wrong but that was the jist of what he said. If anyone can find the correct quote please tell me.
I think this quote perfectly captures the SJW mindset. They see this vast conspiracy to oppress them at every turn, to undermine their power and strip them of their freedoms, so in order to fight it, they have to create a vast conspiracy to undermine, oppress and strip away the rights and freedoms of those they see as the enemy. And they see themselves as totally just, morally correct and above reproach for it.
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In my experience some are trust fund hipsters and some are the type of kid I was in high school. Lonely, isolated and desperate to fit into any sub culture that will accept them.
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actually, people who believe in conspiracy theories are more likely to make and be a part of conspiracies themselves.
they also think people who don't side with them are the enemy and will go out of their way to screw over "them".
so feminism as it is now, is a conspiracy theory.
also i wish the golden rule in someway was enforced. i would love to have these idiots live through the shit they expect others to. hell i would love to see these people experience actual oppression. maybe go without services run by people they don't like (radfems can't use anything run by men (aka, everything that isn't a cushy ceo job))
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Unless someone is the following:
1) Regularly does community service work actually helping the poor. Worked in the soup kitchen, homeless shelter, handed out clothes, etc
2) Worked in the Peace Corp
3) Does Social Work as a profession (notice the lack of "Justice")
4) Is or was poor
5) Lived in the third for at least a few months
Then I take what they have to say more seriously
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That's just...disgusting. I really don't know what to say. Do they even realize that "The victim was stupid and had it coming" is the go-to excuse domestic abusers give for their behavior?
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what do you think SJWs are?
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Because small time developers patting each other on the back over their games is going to somehow destroy the mainstream... Somehow?
GamerGate started because of the idea that a indie dev slept around to get good reviews.
Well hooooleeeey shit. Stop the presses guys, Dark Souls 2, you can't be a thing anymore because Kotaku said that Depression Quest is 10/10, best game of the century.
If there is one thing I've always found amusing about GG, this attitude that the mere existence of shit like that Pregnancy game means that Pillars of Eternity doesn't real.
Oh no. They pushed a Trans joke out of a game. All is lost. Hope is dead.
I mean, without that Trans joke, Pillars is basically shit now.
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I hope you don't raise children with the same mentality you have when dealing with SJWs.
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Noticing the lack of "justice" AND the addition of the word "work".
Work is problematic. It implies actually doing something useful. That's, like, capitalism or some shit.
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And what attitude would that be?
Not being bothered by the mere existence of their shit, or not being bothered by the fact that they are patting each other on the back?
No. If my imagined kid is some sort of emo and comes at me talking about how nobody understands him/er and nobody has loved and had heartbreak the way s/he has, I have no intention of forcing him/er to be some sort of straight edge All American kid who never complains.
Likewise - Through some great sorcery I cannot quite explain, I miraculously manage to enjoy games like Pillars of Eternity in spite of the existence of Depression Quest. Also in spite of the abominable absence of jokes about transsexuals, as much as their absence tears out the very heart and soul of PoE. Through an even greater power I can only attribute to the belief that I may well be a Demigod, I manage to not give a shit what Game Review sites I have never heard of prior to this whole affair say about DQ.
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If your kid throws a tantrum because you won't buy him a piece of candy, would you cave in? It is, after all, just a piece of candy.
Oh, and the Pillars of Eternity thing, most of the anger comes from the perception that Obsidian threw one of their own backers to the wolves over a psychopath. I guess you could argue the perception is unreasonable, but I can't really blame them for feeling that way.
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That whole Pillars of Eternities situation is not an isolated incident, it's just another relatively small example of certain ideologies trying to control video game content in order to mold it in line with their worldviews through underhanded means such as BS, overblown accusations of sexism, racism etc meant to silence dissenting viewpoints. You can agree or disagree with them based on what your personal beliefs are but its not like that whole issue with the tranny joke just fell out of the sky.
At a different time (say three years ago) I would even be positively predisposed to have that joke removed (I can see the argument against it although I don't exactly agree), provided that this was something that was asked, not demanded by political correctness proponents. But now I was fully against removing it - although I am fine with the way Obsidian handled it by asking the writer and throwing a jab at the complainers.
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Right. Right. I'm not really seeing a parallel between Depression Quest existing and Review sites claiming it is the best thing since the invention of a wheel, and a kid throwing a temper tantrum for candy.
I'd argue there is an enormous irony in the use of a tantrum metaphor, given that the root of this string of comments is the notion that Anti-GG is going to turn Gaming into some sort of "Halo 5? No no no. That doesn't real. The only video games that exist now are "Check Your Privilege 2 - The CISening."
I have no qualms about calling sensationalist bullshit on par with "OMG. Increased taxes?! This is just like 1984! What's next?! Doublethink?!" what it is.
TL;DR - No. I am not particularly bothered by the mere existence of these games, and I find the level of pant shiting that their existence creates surprisingly similar to the "Uhg. Why do CISpeople exist?!" nonsense on Tumblr.
Nor am I particularly bothered by review sites claiming said games are the best thing since the wheel. I've never bought into the idea that this is going to have some devastating effect on gaming. Are gamers so stupid that they are going to go "Duhhh, I'd really like to get PoE, but Kotaku says that Depression Quest is 10/10. I better get it instead."
Or do we just imagine that the big name producers are going to go "Well, sure ______ got universal acclaim, earned us billions of dollars, and we have yet to get a rating bellow a 9, but we'd really like Kotaku to say we are the best thing since the wheel. Better rework ______ so that it is an 8Bit game about how to deal with pregnancy."
See, here's my thing with this.
The language used in this sort of view is just... Sooo similar to all the "Obamacare?! More like Thoughtcrime! Have you ever read 1984? No? Neither have I, but this is basically what it was."
Oh no. A joke about Transsexuals was removed from the game. Olympus has fallen. Woe unto we few survivors.
FFS. It's a fucking joke about Transsexuals. Maybe I am just crazy, but most of the hype I was hearing about PoE wasn't about how it had the world's best jokes about transsexuals, and you had to own it because those jokes were so good they couldn't go unheard.
TL;DR - I don't buy into the notion that "Kotaku gave Gone Home 10/10" and "PoE cut a joke about Transsexuals" somehow means that the entirety of gaming is dead.
That gives far too much importance to Kotaku and is a complete insult to the quality of PoE.
Or was everyone just racing out to buy it because of those hilarious transsexual jokes, which basically made the game.
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I don't know much about Obamacare since I am not American but yeah I have read 1984 and it's a great book with many useful lessons. What is the point here? That people against the removal of the joke tend to hold certain specific personal beliefs? Yeah so are the people who were in favor of removing the joke, I even hinted at that in my previous post ("You can agree or disagree based on your views..."). That's absolutely normal considering what the disagreement was about.
Your attempt to portray me as some extreme ignorant wingnut conspiracy theorist will need a bit more work I think.
I never claimed any of these things. I even characterized the tranny joke incident as minor. In fact I'm fairly sure that the result is going to be the opposite of what you describe in the bolded part.
And btw since it is just a joke who were the ones who made a fuss about it first? The ones in favor of removing it or the ones against removing it?
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Did you actually miss the connection between the Obsidian example and a kid throwing a temper tantrum, or are you doing it on purpose?
Taking your view to its logical extreme, if a bully demands your lunch money, you may as well give it to him, since it's only a few dollars. You can't just choose to stop applying principles because you think it's too petty.
And most of what /pol/ says is just shitposting anyways.
Ignoring the existence of indie devs.
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Oh? I had assumed it was about my asking if the attitude you were referring to was my thoughts the idea that if Anti-GG wins, all gaming is going to be "Check Your Privilege 2 - The CISening" what with that being the crux of what I'm saying.
Apologies for my misunderstanding.
If you are committed to misunderstanding my point, yes.
Are you ignoring my central point on purpose? Or is there some miscommunication going on here?
If this shit is somehow "destroying" gaming, then we can assume that the removal of that transjoke has "ruined" PoE, no?
This isn't about the broader SJW behavior. I like to think that my history on this very thread shows that I'm not a fan of it.
It's about the sensationalist nonsense on par with "Every political change I don't like means we are living in 1984!" bullshit whereby Anti-GG is somehow destroying the core of gaming by getting people to remove jokes about transsexuals from games, making shit like Depression Quest, and giving themselves pats on the back.
Ah yes. Indie Devs. The true driving force behind Gaming.
Skyrim makes Elder Scrolls almost a household name and brings Bethesda enough money that they could swim in it like Scrouge McDuck, but pfffft. What is that shit next to indie games?
Bethesda, better pack it in. Kill your money making machine. Indie devs exist and some of them are catering to a certain political market. Gaming is over guys. Shut. Down. Everything.
The point here is that I find this attitude that shit like Depression Quest, Kotaku giving Gone Home 10/10 and calling it the best thing since the wheel, and the attitude that PoE removing a Transsexual Joke is a sign of the coming apocalypse is as ridiculous as people who feel that every political fart is a sign that we are living in 1984.
I am not referring to you personally.
No. You did not.
You'll notice, perhaps, I didn't quote you out of the blue and claim you believed these things. If you look carefully, you'll see that I was responding to a fellow who was quoting a post about the "Universities introduce Mandatory Social Justice classes" story and claimed that it was the "Future of Gaming if Anti-GG wins." and am, more broadly, referring to this attitude that SJWs are "killing gaming" by way of making games like Depression Quest and claiming they are the greatest thing a human has produced since the wheel, and forcing jokes about Transsexuals out of Pillars of Eternity.
At risk of sounding like an asshole, I'm going to have to step away from this discussion. I'd hate to spin the thread too far off topic/into general spergyness. If you guys would like to continue, I'd be glad to take it to PMs.
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