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I've had mild to moderate acne for more than half my life. I've tried salicylic acid products... benzoyl peroxide products...differin...witch hazel... Retinol... Nothing has made a difference. Just in the past 5 days or so ago I bought the Bliss Clear Genius clarifying toner serum after hearing that it's a dupe for Fenty's Fat Water. I've been using it religiously and amazingly I haven't seen any large blemishes emerge since starting it. I don't want to jinx myself but I'm quite hopeful.
 
Additionally, have you tried any clay masks?
Funny enought I have and unfortunately it hasn't treated the area around my nose kindly.
I tried going for something fancy like a clay mask:
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I got it really cheap at Marshall's and went straight to it without any research because I'm that stupid and broke. I have tried it 2 times and both have caused a sort of burning reaction to the nasal area (maxillary-sinus). Serves me right for being a basic bitch.
I should add that not only does it burn but leaves that area of my skin dry almost like a sunburn.

They hate the nut hull and shell-based scrubs the most. I think it's fair because they really are too harsh, especially on your face.
A popular example is St. Ives apricot scrub. It has ground apricot pits in it. Avoid that one and stuff like it. Some use coconut shells, I've seen that in Lush products before.
I am honestly flabbergasted, that's the product my family has been using for years and never would've guessed how harmful it could be. I haven't used the scub in a long while though.

For now, I'm using this cleanser from e.l.f.

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Funny enought I have and unfortunately it hasn't treated the area around my nose kindly.

I should add that not only does it burn but leaves that area of my skin dry almost like a sunburn.


I am honestly flabbergasted, that's the product my family has been using for years and never would've guessed how harmful it could be. I haven't used the scub in a long while though.

For now, I'm using this cleanser from e.l.f.

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What kind of masks did you try that you reacted badly to around the nose? Where were they from? I ask because a lot of american products tend to be harsher (see: St. Ives); i would recommend a Korean pore mask. They have a couple different kinds—ones that bubble up, ones that harden into “clay,” etc.
 
the best exfoliation for facial skin is shaving. I have suoer duper fine, natural blonde fuzz on my face. like if someone swiped a cotton ball across sandpaper. I unashamedly shave. no need to exfoliate. it's also why men have typically better skin after a certain age even though they don't use moisturizers etc.
 
Exfoliation is essential. There are a million reasons the rate your skin sheds can get messed up. As simple as hormonal fluctuations, the weather etc. The skincare community tends to hate physical exfoliants with a burning passion because they claim it causes "microtears" that science hasn't proven exist yet. They hate the nut hull and shell-based scrubs the most. I think it's fair because they really are too harsh, especially on your face.
A popular example is St. Ives apricot scrub. It has ground apricot pits in it. Avoid that one and stuff like it. Some use coconut shells, I've seen that in Lush products before.
Physical scrubs aka exfoliants aren't the devil they're made out to be by skincare enthusiasts though. Salt and sugar based scrubs can be fine enough that it won't do any harm. Salt based scrubs are good for oilier skin and sugar draw moisture in and are better for drier skin. Most people only need to use an exfoliant once a week. If your pores are more clogged you can use them more often. Sugar, salt and scrubs with hydrogenated jojoba beads or castor oil beads are great physical exfoliants that aren't too harsh. Aveeno makes a face scrub with hydrogenated castor oil beads and I recommend it (Aveeno Positively Radiant Skin Brightening Daily Scrub). It's biodegradable just like natural scrubs with hulls and stuff but without being rough on your skin.
Plastic scrubby beads used to be common but are less so now because there were environmental concerns that the beads were a form of microplastic pollution to the ocean so big companies finally phased it out. They go by names like PEG-(something).
I recommend the beauty blogger Lab Muffin Beauty Science if you want to learn more about beauty topics like exfoliation. She is very unbiased, has a PhD in biochem, is approachable, funny and very informative in a way that makes scientific concepts easy to understand.

BHA aka salicylic acid is the best oil for blackheads. It's oil soluble and goes deeper than anything else can into your pores to dissolve the oil. Blackheads are usually oxidized oil and keratin. You don't need to get a facial. Sal acid products are easy to find and you can get a higher prescription from the doctor if you need to. I really like the Cerave SA Cream for Rough and Bumpy skin. It has 3 percent sal acid while most OTC products have 2 percent or lower. It also has lactic acid which exfoliates your skin while also moisturizing it so it should offset dryness from SA. SA really is the best thing for blackheads by a mile.


You can try niacinamide like the Ordinary serum one. That helps with redness and balancing your pores. Oatmeal baths and products with oatmeal are really good for conditions like rosacea, psoriasis and eczema. I'm using the Attitude Baby Oatmeal bath right now. You might want to go fragrance free because a lot of people with rosacea are bothered by scents. Don't worry about whether products are paraben-free though. It's mostly a thing pushed for by anti-vax crunchies and paraben free preservatives are actually more likely to irritate your skin.
All those brands you got samples of are a bit expensive. You just need simple fragrance free products. Aveeno for instance. Skincare is mostly the same between price points, there's only so many ingredients and paying more doesn't usually equal a better product. Are you allergic to European sunscreens like Tinosorb and Uvinal A Plus too? Have you ever tried Korean sunscreens like Purito Centella Green Level? I think I'm allergic to Western chemical sunscreens too. Especially octocrylene. Canadian and American sunscreens are trash. Tinosorb is actually approved in Canada but I was only able to find a single La Roche Posay product that uses it. I guess we just import the crappy American sunscreens and slap a bilingual label on it.
Zinc is so AIDS, I hate it. Every time I use it I somehow get it on the interior of the car and it stains. Makes me so mad and usually clumps too.
I haven't tried any of the European / Korean ones. Honestly, I usually skip sunscreen altogether. I practically wear a burqa (long sleeve sun tee, swim leggings, hat and sit under the umbrella). You still get some sun bouncing off the sand/water -- so I try to limit my time. I do break down and use the zinc stuff if I'm going to be exposed for a while. I've got English/Irish ancestry and super fair skin, so I just burn anyway. I would like to find some that I could wear and not look like I've got white clown make up on, though. I'd probably get out more during summer if I can find a decent one. I'll check out the ones you suggested. Thanks!
 
Dead Sea facial scrub and Dead Sea Facial Mask is my favorite. Once-Twice per week for rejuvenation.
 
This may have been discussed before here but I've been on a trip of watching black head and pore strip removal videos because I'm bored. But my question is, what exactly is the best way to make pores less visible? I feel like mine are always darker and bigger than they should be. Do pore strips work? Are they damaging like some people say? Do I just need to change the routine I use on my face (nothing fancy atm, just oatmeal face soap and moisturizer) and it will improve over time? I'm honestly not sure.
 
This may have been discussed before here but I've been on a trip of watching black head and pore strip removal videos because I'm bored. But my question is, what exactly is the best way to make pores less visible? I feel like mine are always darker and bigger than they should be. Do pore strips work? Are they damaging like some people say? Do I just need to change the routine I use on my face (nothing fancy atm, just oatmeal face soap and moisturizer) and it will improve over time? I'm honestly not sure.
The longer you leave pores clogged, in general, the more they will stretch out and become bigger; however, be careful when removing things from pores, as it can be easy to pop a blood vessel or damage your pores further if you are too harsh with your squeezing. I don't have much experience with strips, but whatever you do to remove stuff, it's always a good idea to put a warm washcloth over the area first to open up the pores and make it easier.
 
Does anyone have any experience with at-home chemical peels?

A couple weeks ago I bought on Amazon a chemical foot peel that gave awesome, gross, peeling results. Naturally, I thought "I want this shit on my face!" So I did just a bit of searching, but couldn't find anything really that didn't seem a little suspect. So I went on Sephora and bought Drunk Elephant Glycolic Night Serum. (12% AHA/BHA blend.) Came in a gel form and used it for one night. No tingling, just heavy gel on my face as I'm trying to sleep. I've used it twice in a week, and my skin still looks dull, and not a peel to be seen. $90 for one ounce and frivolous packaging.

I think I need something stronger, but I want to get it from someplace legit, not trusting Amazon. Does anyone have any recommendations?
(I have dry skin, but not sensitive at all if that matters)
this was a timely question and I have a follow up answer. I needed stronger acid because my forehead is showing discoloration from a combination of years of tanning and reflecting sunlight from my blonde hair onto it. since I answered the first time, I have purchased this and felt the burn for the first time in years. I cut it by half with water for around/under my eyes.

I neglected to mention originally that I recommend getting one of these for neutralizing in the shower. a teaspoon of baking soda mixed with water and after you rinse the acid from your face, squeeze the baking soda water on. it's far easier to squeeze/ squirt the water on than to splash it or whatnot.
 
Has anyone tried this serum or any other from its line?
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This may have been discussed before here but I've been on a trip of watching black head and pore strip removal videos because I'm bored. But my question is, what exactly is the best way to make pores less visible? I feel like mine are always darker and bigger than they should be. Do pore strips work? Are they damaging like some people say? Do I just need to change the routine I use on my face (nothing fancy atm, just oatmeal face soap and moisturizer) and it will improve over time? I'm honestly not sure.

The size and visibility of your pores depends on the amount of collagen in your skin. This is partially a function of age and hormones, but even if you're 15, you won't be able to eliminate their appearance entirely. I'm a huge fan of simple oil cleanses (just use olive oil) and gentle massage for removing daily buildup. A product with salicylic acid can promote skin cell turnover and reduce the amount of sebum your pores are producing, as well. And to prevent collagen breakdown: SPF all day every day no exceptions.
 
Hey gorls, I have a retinol question. I used to have really nice skin, but since I’ve been wearing a mask for 8 hrs a day (hell, maybe even before that) I started to break out. It’s mostly on my chin and jaw but I figured that’s from the mask rubbing.
I’ve had some issue with post-inflammation scarring and worried all these new pimples would make more red spots so I started using a retinol cream. I’ve been using it every other day for close to two weeks now, and the ‘purge’ people talk about hit hard. I got quite a few new pimples including a huge one on my cheek.

it’s slowing down now but I don’t see any improvement. I’m not seeing a ton of new pimples anymore but my red spots are still there and so are the existing pimples. How long does it take to see a difference? Did I get a shitty batch? I’m worried I made my skin worse for nothing :(
 
Hey gorls, I have a retinol question. I used to have really nice skin, but since I’ve been wearing a mask for 8 hrs a day (hell, maybe even before that) I started to break out. It’s mostly on my chin and jaw but I figured that’s from the mask rubbing.
I’ve had some issue with post-inflammation scarring and worried all these new pimples would make more red spots so I started using a retinol cream. I’ve been using it every other day for close to two weeks now, and the ‘purge’ people talk about hit hard. I got quite a few new pimples including a huge one on my cheek.

it’s slowing down now but I don’t see any improvement. I’m not seeing a ton of new pimples anymore but my red spots are still there and so are the existing pimples. How long does it take to see a difference? Did I get a shitty batch? I’m worried I made my skin worse for nothing :(

Might be hormonal acne. I get that shit on my chin too, and even when I was religious about retinol they would still crop up. Then I started taking spironolactone and bam, all gone.
Your skin goes through a cycle and when you introduce retinol it gets thrown out of balance, so it takes time to adjust (like a month or so). As for scarring, vitamin C combats that! I use a little moisturizer from this company called Foxbrim and it's helped a lot.
But yeh, I'd go to a dermatologist and ask 'em if it's hormonal. Do you get it on your jaw, as well?

EDIT: Also wanna give a pointer about retinol. When you first start it, DON'T use it too often. Use it like once or twice a week in the first few weeks. Then try it 2-3 times a week, and so on and so on. Apply it after you put on moisturizer, as that'll bear the brunt of the chemicals. (Also, put Vaseline or something around your eyes; it acts as a buffer, since retinol will travel over your skin. I learned that the hard way.)
 
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Might be hormonal acne. I get that shit on my chin too, and even when I was religious about retinol they would still crop up. Then I started taking spironolactone and bam, all gone.
Your skin goes through a cycle and when you introduce retinol it gets thrown out of balance, so it takes time to adjust (like a month or so). As for scarring, vitamin C combats that! I use a little moisturizer from this company called Foxbrim and it's helped a lot.
But yeh, I'd go to a dermatologist and ask 'em if it's hormonal. Do you get it on your jaw, as well?

EDIT: Also wanna give a pointer about retinol. When you first start it, DON'T use it too often. Use it like once or twice a week in the first few weeks. Then try it 2-3 times a week, and so on and so on. Apply it after you put on moisturizer, as that'll bear the brunt of the chemicals. (Also, put Vaseline or something around your eyes; it acts as a buffer, since retinol will travel over your skin. I learned that the hard way.)

well, that might be the problem. I immediately started every other day hoping the purge would go away faster if I just got it over with. I do get it on my jaw as well, so maybe the problem is hormones more so than the mask. I used to very rarely get pimples- I would have strangers complimenting my skin! I figured it couldn’t be hormonal because nothing has drastically changed in my life but who knows, bodies are weird. I may take a trip to a dermatologist just to figure out once and for all because I miss my nice skin. Thanks for the advice, I’ll stop putting it on my bare skin and cut back a little!
 
i've never had a problem with acne before but the face mask i have to wear at work for 8 hours every day is making me break out :mad:
it's so goddamn humid here and it's not like i can take it off in the middle of the shift. i've never used any kind of skincare before in my entire life, i just wash my face with soap and water with a towel and it's always worked for me.

but now i have no clue what kind of thing to get for my face. other than the obvious stuff like showering and washing my face, what should i do to prevent this?
 
i've never had a problem with acne before but the face mask i have to wear at work for 8 hours every day is making me break out :mad:
it's so goddamn humid here and it's not like i can take it off in the middle of the shift. i've never used any kind of skincare before in my entire life, i just wash my face with soap and water with a towel and it's always worked for me.

but now i have no clue what kind of thing to get for my face. other than the obvious stuff like showering and washing my face, what should i do to prevent this?

If it's humidity, then it's bacteria multiplying. Acne is technically an infection of the skin. So treat it as you would a regular infection. Disinfect the area (wash face with something that fights back), make sure the area is maintained (moisturize, not too greasy as it's humid), and take the mask off whenever you get a chance. Even if it's for 3 seconds and someone has their back turned to you. Yank that thing down and take a deep breath. Then just blame it on the mask suffocating you.
 
I haven't tried any of the European / Korean ones. Honestly, I usually skip sunscreen altogether. I practically wear a burqa (long sleeve sun tee, swim leggings, hat and sit under the umbrella). You still get some sun bouncing off the sand/water -- so I try to limit my time. I do break down and use the zinc stuff if I'm going to be exposed for a while. I've got English/Irish ancestry and super fair skin, so I just burn anyway. I would like to find some that I could wear and not look like I've got white clown make up on, though. I'd probably get out more during summer if I can find a decent one. I'll check out the ones you suggested. Thanks!
The problem with Purito is that it's awesome but it's not waterproof so it's better as an everyday facial sunscreen when you're not at the beach. Favour any sunscreen formulation with Tinosorb and Uvinal A Plus, even if it also contains older ingredients too.


i've never had a problem with acne before but the face mask i have to wear at work for 8 hours every day is making me break out :mad:
it's so goddamn humid here and it's not like i can take it off in the middle of the shift. i've never used any kind of skincare before in my entire life, i just wash my face with soap and water with a towel and it's always worked for me.

but now i have no clue what kind of thing to get for my face. other than the obvious stuff like showering and washing my face, what should i do to prevent this?
I'd use a benzoyl peroxide wash and a salicyclic acid leave on product like The Ordinary's sal acid serum. BP is very effective at killing acne bacteria but most do not stay compliant with the treatment because it causes burning, peeling, itching etc. and dries out your skin a lot. It's a lot better for most in a wash to minimize irritating side effects. Leave it on for 5 or 10 mins. BP is a strong and very effective anti-acne medication. You have to stick with it and side effects lessen over time as your skin gets used to it. It's worth it when you're nice and clear again though.
 
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Any of the girls here got good skin care recommendations for a dude? My concept of it more or less amounts to unscented Eucerin, moisturising aftershave, and a small tin of Blistex. Certainly not bad by any stretch considering how I ain't ashy or flaky, but I can't help but feel like I can do better.
 
I also use urea 40 on my face. Literally not going to find a better moisturizer/deflaker/smoother. a few nights a week, wash it off in the morning. whenever I use it on my feet I try to remember to use it on my face and DEFINITELY a few days in a row a few days after I do a chemical/acid peel.

I also mix a droo of the acid peel into my nightly moisturizer on nights I don't use urea.
 
Any of the girls here got good skin care recommendations for a dude? My concept of it more or less amounts to unscented Eucerin, moisturising aftershave, and a small tin of Blistex. Certainly not bad by any stretch considering how I ain't ashy or flaky, but I can't help but feel like I can do better.

Sunscreen. Maybe something to exfoliate, either chemically or physically (i.e. a face scrub, or washcloth)? Does your skin just look dull or what?
 
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