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I saw this post last night and it fits in with this thread perfectly.

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"Yeah, people might die, but sex workers might lose some clients, and I think that's a bit more important here."
link to the article.
like to the post.
And of course, it's tagged with #whorephobia

What happened to the good old days when prostitutes just put ads in craigslist?
 
moorhen said:
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"Yeah, people might die, but sex workers might lose some clients, and I think that's a bit more important here."
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I don't see that implication from the post. To me it reads more "I agree AND", than a dismissal of gay people's concerns. And in countries that execute homosexuals, sex workers are usually in life danger too so it's a relevant concern.

moorhen said:
when prostitutes just put ads in craigslist?
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Craigslist is not really considered a safe place for prostitutes, it's notorious as a "get murdered by a serial killer"-type of deal for prostitutes. Even if it's not as dangerous as claimed, the reputation is there.
 
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Clown Doll said:
I don't see that implication from the post. To me it reads more "I agree AND", than a dismissal of gay people's concerns. And in countries that execute homosexuals, sex workers are usually in life danger too so it's a relevant concern.
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It just doesn't seem comparable to me. I understand that sex work can be a dangerous line of work, but I don't think it is at all on the level of being killed by your government.
Maybe tumblr has just made me cynical, but generally if they're playing for oppression points then they'll tack something onto the end of someone else's post.
 
moorhen said:
It just doesn't seem comparable to me. I understand that sex work can be a dangerous line of work, but I don't think it is at all on the level of being killed by your government.
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Prostitution(and things that constitute as prostitution like premarital sex) carries the death penalty or heavy imprisonment in some countries. Granted, you shouldn't be using a website like that in those kind of countries, but still.
 
Clown Doll said:
Prostitution(and things that constitute as prostitution like premarital sex) carries the death penalty or heavy imprisonment in some countries. Granted, you shouldn't be using a website like that in those kind of countries, but still.
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Yeah, I understand that, and you're completely right on that point, but I'd imagine the people using AM to cruise for customers are generally gonna be American women who can afford to pay the membership and have a computer and the internet.
The men (I assume that they're men at least) that have been using it to find other men in countries like Saudi Arabia just seem, to me at least, to be in more danger.
I agree with you that women using those sites were in those countries then the problem would be on the same scale.
Prostitutes in countries like that are usually victims of sex trafficking and I doubt that someone is going to set up a page on a paid website for them.

I don't think either group of people should've actually been using the website, especially when you have to give an address to use it. It's been proven before that customer services from internet companies are super dense and it's easy enough to trick addresses out of them.
 
I honestly don't understand why SJWs are defending a work that has resulted in the abuse and trafficking of many women, especially those in third world countries (where women have no rights in). There's A LOT of abuse in the sex work industry (especially if it's prostitution) that needs to be addressed and as much as I hate to agree with the radfems on one thing, the radfems probably have a point that the sex-work industry (especially prostitution) is somewhat harmful to women.

moorhen said:
I agree with you that women using those sites were in those countries then the problem would be on the same scale.
Prostitutes in countries like that are usually victims of sex trafficking and I doubt that someone is going to set up a page on a paid website for them.
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This is a major reason why I'm rather iffy on legalizing prostitution, because there are a lot of abusive clients and pimps involved in the work.

On a side note, I have found some sources as to why prostitution as a work is probably a pretty harmful and dare I say problematic field:
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Ok, these are long so they are going under spoilers.
Before I start I feel like should give a background statement: I am a dancer by choice. I like what I do, Its not what I plan to do forever but its cool for now. Most strippers I meet (and Ive met a lot in my country) are happy in our work, some are looking for something new but as a general rule its just treated as a normal job.

So I used to dance at a really shitty club, it was pretty famous for being the lowest rent strip club in the city. The management of said club also didn't make a habit of checking ID's of the applicant dancers. At one point while I worked there I found out that one of the dancers who had recently started working was only 16. Now initially I felt pretty bad for her: naturally I assumed that she was living a pretty dark life that she had ended up in this situation... Until I found out that her father was a doctor and her mother was a real estate agent. She lived at home, had a tumblr, and was the epitome of an edgy as fuck teen: she had become a stripper to spite her parents. Obviously the best thing to do in hindsight would be to call the police as an anon and have the place "randomly" checked but the watch word of most strippers is to mind ones own business.
She did and said everything that the farms have come to expect from a tumblrite sjw: She would beg everyone for money because she was always broke, but she was always broke because the very moment she had any cash she would sprint out to buy a pair of shoes, jeans, or weed. She, like one of the screen caps above this post always talked about strippers as "angels" and "Powerful women" who were using our bodies to dismantle the patriarchy.
One day it all came to a point where she was one of the tipping points that made me quit to go work at another club. I was frustrated one night because the club was a bit dead and I felt as though I wasn't making money. I vented on how dead it was in the locker room to no one in particular and she told me I "Really needed to stop treating this job like its all about the money, god!". I understood in that instant that she was poison in the club: a drugged up kid living out a pretty women fantasy that I wanted none of.
I quit the next week, went to a better club and waited a month to call the cops on the club.

This one is shorter thankfully.
I had a guy who booked me for a lap dance one night without talking to me first, thats a pretty unusual thing and it came as a bit of a surprise. We get into the room and I tell him to take a seat and relax, I start removing pieces of clothing and I go to sit on his lap. He stops me suddenly and says "you don't have to do that" "what?" "you don't have to do any of this" he says making a wide sweeping gesture with his hand. I stand there looking at him puzzled and he goes on a massive rant about how our "rape culture" society is "abusing women" into thinking that we had to "dehumanise ourselves" to "conform to the patriarchal views of mass media" (I can't remember his whole speech verbatim so I figure the cliffs notes with examples of his language get his point across). I guess I must have looked a bit stunned when he finished because he stressed to me that he could "take me away from all of this" before I could speak again and tell him that 1: if he wanted to try to convince a stripper to leave her job then he shouldn't do it after buying a VIP and having given me money to do my job in the first place and that I felt very insulted and was ending the lap dance early because he was so rude. That wasn't the answer that he was looking for I guess because he stood up and walked out looking dejected, not sure what the right answer was though.

There ya have it: sjws on both sides in a strip club. Theres a few more but this was pretty long so consider it part one if folks want more.
 
DirkBloodStormKing said:
I honestly don't understand why SJWs are defending a work that has resulted in the abuse and trafficking of many women, especially those in third world countries (where women have no rights in). There's A LOT of abuse in the sex work industry (especially if it's prostitution) that needs to be addressed and as much as I hate to agree with the radfems on one thing, the radfems probably have a point that the sex-work industry (especially prostitution) is somewhat harmful to women.



This is a major reason why I'm rather iffy on legalizing prostitution, because there are a lot of abusive clients and pimps involved in the work.

On a side note, I have found some sources as to why prostitution as a work is probably a pretty harmful and dare I say problematic field:
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From the perspective of someone in the sex industry and someone who lives in a country that legalised all forms of sex work quite a few years ago now: legalisation really hasn't hurt people.
Prostitutes do often check out clients before they meet them, clearly not everyone does, but even in the USA working girls do screen clients. Screening clients is easier after legalisation along with reporting problem clients to the police- it also enables girls (and guys) to press charges for non payment or criminal activity on the part of brothels, other organisations, and individuals. Pimping is a criminal offence now and individuals who want to work need not seek out private protection: they can work indoors with actual security: ones that won't shake them down for their money.
Prostitution isn't a job for everyone but it certainly can be made safer with a little more legal oversight.
 
Aural Offramp said:
From the perspective of someone in the sex industry and someone who lives in a country that legalised all forms of sex work quite a few years ago now: legalisation really hasn't hurt people.
Prostitutes do often check out clients before they meet them, clearly not everyone does, but even in the USA working girls do screen clients. Screening clients is easier after legalisation along with reporting problem clients to the police- it also enables girls (and guys) to press charges for non payment or criminal activity on the part of brothels, other organisations, and individuals. Pimping is a criminal offence now and individuals who want to work need not seek out private protection: they can work indoors with actual security: ones that won't shake them down for their money.
Prostitution isn't a job for everyone but it certainly can be made safer with a little more legal oversight.
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I'm going to defer to the experience of people who know better than I here. However, I think there are some considerations to be examined.
With no disrespect intended to anyone, this is not a line of work that's to be undertaken lightly. Legal oversight can, without question, prevent victimization and regulate fair and acceptable treatment in the industry. However, regardless of how it could be, the work can be dangerous and exploitative, at least in the US. Stripping is usually relatively safe, but prostitution in the US is a dangerous and often grim business. I don't have the experience required to comment on how it works in other countries, and I defer to the wisdom of those that do, but I feel that Tumblrinas who live in the US and encourage sex work here are deeply misguided. Like any other illegal enterprise, prostitution in America is controlled with addiction, manipulation, and fear. Encouraging people to accept prostitution in the US as it exists currently is psychotic and irresponsible.
There may come a day in which sex work in the US is legalized, regulated, and protected, but until that day it will be run by people of questionable morals and I can't approve of anyone who encourages young people to enter such a line of work without considering the risks.
 
Dr. Boe Jangles Esq. said:
I'm going to defer to the experience of people who know better than I here. However, I think there are some considerations to be examined.
With no disrespect intended to anyone, this is not a line of work that's to be undertaken lightly. Legal oversight can, without question, prevent victimization and regulate fair and acceptable treatment in the industry. However, regardless of how it could be, the work can be dangerous and exploitative, at least in the US. Stripping is usually relatively safe, but prostitution in the US is a dangerous and often grim business. I don't have the experience required to comment on how it works in other countries, and I defer to the wisdom of those that do, but I feel that Tumblrinas who live in the US and encourage sex work here are deeply misguided. Like any other illegal enterprise, prostitution in America is controlled with addiction, manipulation, and fear. Encouraging people to accept prostitution in the US as it exists currently is psychotic and irresponsible.
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As I have said in the PT thread: no two countries will have the same exact culture and as a consequence will never react to legal changes in policy in exactly the same way. I don't claim to know the USA by any means so I can appreciate that things are different for you chaps. The tumblr 'tards are misguided as all heck about the sex industry is many many ways (not to mention outright lying in some cases) and personally I wouldn't strip or hook in the US because there are far more risks than there are working in practically any other country. Addiction is certainly an issue within the industry, however my nation also has resorces for people in the grips of their addiction: something it seems is a required foundation before legalising sex work or other possibly problematic (god i hate that word now... thanks tumblr) industries.
 
I've got a screencap from a few months ago that I still think about and chuckle.

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You don't EVER get to say those words, hear me?!
 
How the fuck can SJWs be expected to be taken seriously when they are perfectly okay with allowing females to prostitute themselves for sex, hell EVEN GETTING PROTECTION, but they tard rage whenever a guy asks a girl "Hey, what's your name?" and call it "OPPRESSION! RAPE! SEXIST!"

Fuck these people.
 
Asuka said:
How the fuck can SJWs be expected to be taken seriously when they are perfectly okay with allowing females to prostitute themselves for sex, hell EVEN GETTING PROTECTION, but they tard rage whenever a guy asks a girl "Hey, what's your name?" and call it "OPPRESSION! RAPE! SEXIST!"

Fuck these people.
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Probably because prostitution is illegal so its cool
 
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