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The Senate voted to subsidize domestic manufacturers of vital computer components. Will national security concerns overcome a longstanding aversion to government-led industrial policy?


Perceiving a moment of acute national weakness, Senator John Cornyn reached across the aisle and proposed an action he described as at odds with his faith in the free market. If the United States was becoming increasingly dependent on Chinese manufacturers for semiconductors, what if the US government simply funded direct investment in the industrial capacity to build this crucial component of all modern electronics?

The answer, put forth by Cornyn, a Republican, and co-sponsored by Sen. Mark Warner, a Democrat, was the “Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors for America Act,” or the CHIPS For America Act. A version of the act passed the Senate last week as an amendment to the must-pass National Defense Authorization Act; a parallel version was introduced in the House in June as a standalone bill.


At the heart of the amendment is a deep fear, one that transcends party lines, that if the United States does not actively invest in the industrial capacity needed to produce semiconductors at home, the nation will be held at the mercy of overseas manufacturers, particularly and explicitly those based in China.


“I think we all understand that China has moved up the list to the number-one rival of the United States, not only economically but they’re also acting very aggressively in their intelligence functions and in places like the South China Sea,” said Cornyn, speaking July 23rd at an CSIS event on Strategic Competition and the U.S. Semiconductor Industry.

“This is a little bit uncomfortable to some of us who were raised to believe in free markets and it would all work itself out,” said Cornyn. “But we all know now that the world is very different from perhaps those days and that if America is going to maintain our preeminence, not only from a national-security perspective but economically, a federal incentive program through the Department of Commerce to encourage semiconductor manufacturing is very important.”


Companies based inside the United States make up nearly half the global market share for these microchips, said Cornyn, before noting that the US, which once held a quarter of the chip manufacturing facilities, now only contains 12 percent of global manufacturing, relative to China currently manufacturing 16 percent of the world’s supply of microchips. More troubling to Cornyn was an estimate that, by 2030, “83 percent of the global semiconductor manufacturing will be in Asia.”


State investment in manufacturing — practiced by most countries as industrial policy but historically unpopular in the US — is largely responsible for China’s growth in this market. Cornyn cited investment policies by South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Germany as how those countries are staying competitive in this space.


Underscoring the senators’ desire for American investment in semiconductors and microchips is a feeling that the United States is already playing catch-up on 5G. Warner compared it to a Sputnik moment, with the United States lagging behind a critical technology, both in producing it and creating rules to govern it.


“For so long, even if it was not invented in America, we — by our size, by our academic institutions — set the rules of procedure,” said Senator Warner at the CSIS event. “5G was the first time when, in many ways.. China flooded the zones in these international bodies to set the standards.”

As Warner sees it, the goal of federally funding a resurgent semiconductor manufacturing sector in the United States is about both building capacity and market position, from which the United States can then return to a strong position in setting international rules for commercial technology. Semiconductors may be the first top for this train, but Warner also specifically mentioned the same funding vehicle could be designed to support US industry in 5G, in artificial intelligence, in quantum computing, in hypersonics, and possibly elsewhere.


“We looked at different ways to do this and came up with this tax-incentive model, which we’re working with the Senate Finance Committee that Mark and I sit on as well,” said Cornyn. “Secretary Mnuchin’s got some other ideas. He said maybe if there’s some money left over in the – some of the COVID-19 relief package that hasn’t been able to be used for other purposes that maybe we could just use that money.”

Altogether, the amendment offers $10 billion in federal funding through the Department of Commerce, designed to be matched with state and local incentives. There are tax credits available for building manufacturing capacity in the next decade, with incentives scaling back after 2024 and ending in 2027. The CHIPs act amendment also sets aside $750 million to fund an international standards consortium.

“Industrial policy is called industrial policy because it means you’re advancing the interest of a nation-state,” said Warner. “And in this case it may not just be – and this is one of the things I’m excited about – not just an American industrial policy but, again, this coalition of the willing idea around a suite of technologies.”
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So, I put the questions to you dear reader, should the US subsidize microchip manufacturing?

As an aside there is a megathread over here: It is a military news thread, but feel free to discuss anything defense related over there. It's lonely.
 
Afaik the farming industry is subsidized, and I don't see a lot of corruption and low quality in it. So I don't think it would be a bad thing (:optimistic:).

And tbh, if we want these factories to not dump toxic chemicals into the environment (like China does), it's important to let these companies know that the government will help cover the cost of disposing said chemicals in a safe manner.

While the labor won't be as cheap, it will be much less expensive to have them be made domestically rather than shipped from overseas (lowering pollution in that manner!). I know that there will be some EPA lawsuits from this, now that hippies will be able to see the factories for themselves, so hopefully said subsidies will help cover that cost.

Plus, having an economy/industry for low-skilled labor is critical for the Rust Belt, and hopefully a large portion of this can/has to be done by humans.
 
From a pragmatic standpoint, yes.

After all, this is essentially more money going into our system (federal social security from wages, more state employment tax revenue) as opposed to paying someone else to do it. And these electronics will be put to use faster if they're built locally.

Only problem is footing the bill for it and pollution.
 
How about a tariff on foreign imports? That's what we used to do to protect our industries.
The big problem is that's the way you have homegrown industries that bleed money, are incredibly corrupt and inefficient, aren't used by anyone and will never go away due to the backlash from shutting it down.
Edit: Of course some level of tariff is mandatory and I'm all for giving tax breaks to motivate investments.
 
If you're going to throw 10 billion dollars at the problem, when not just invest 10 billion directly in building a fab? I don't get why you'd throw away that amount of money in 'tax rebates' and have nothing left at the end of it. At least if you invested the 10 billion.. you'd have 10 billion dollars worth of factories and plant you owned at the end of it?
 
State capitalism worked out ok for the Asian Tigers, might as well fight fire with fire.
 
The fact that this would have never been on the table five years ago should say enough about how we absolutely need to do this. Shame Congress will smother it in the crib.
 
The biggest issue, which no one seems to have raised outright, is that's a stupid idea to have your electronics manufactured by a hostile power willing to actively interfere with any and all of its manufacturing businesses.
When you order a chip, are you sure you're getting exactly what you ordered, with no added kill switches or surveillance features or hidden weaknesses?
You can tear one of the finished products apart and put it under a microscope if you really want (and if you have the equipment, skills, and manpower - small businesses are still SOL), but you can't do that to all of them. What if only 1% of chips are sabotaged? Or what if they only start sabotaging them after you've been buying them for a year? You just can't win.
 
Its about more than just jobs, its pure security policy. Which is more than I can say about a lot of other defense programs...
 
The US already does this with the steel industry, not by giving handouts but by requiring that domestic infrastructure projects use a certain (very high) percentage of American made product.

The justification for this is that steel is a strategic resource; if we let our mills go quiet, then suddenly our ability to manufacture and field all those fancy aircraft carriers goes out the window.

I’d support something similar for the electronics industry. The issue is that while a surprisingly large amount of high-end components are manufactured in US clean rooms, I’d challenge you to name one vertically integrated computer company that assembles their product in America using primarily American parts. The lion’s share of consumer computers are made in Taiwan, China and Southeast Asia. We simply don’t have the kind of infrastructure to support a mandate that government agencies buy a certain percentage of American made computers. Because “American-Made computers” largely don’t exist.
 
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The US already does this with the steel industry, not by giving handouts but by requiring that domestic infrastructure projects use a certain (very high) percentage of American made product.

The justification for this is that steel is a strategic resource; if we let our mills go quiet, then suddenly our ability to manufacture and field all those fancy aircraft carriers goes out the window.

I’d support something similar for the electronics industry. The issue is that while a surprisingly large amount of high-end components are manufactured in US clean rooms, I’d challenge you to name one vertically integrated computer company that assembles their product in America using primarily American parts. The lion’s share of consumer computers are made in Taiwan, China and Southeast Asia. We simply don’t have the kind of infrastructure to support a mandate that government agencies buy a certain percentage of American made computers. Because “American-Made computers” largely don’t exist.
There's not really any money in digital stuff, and there probably won't be again for a very long time. Analog silicon is where the money is and China sucks hard at it and doesn't have a way to get better because you can't just steal your way to success with it. Japan and Korea are decent at it, or at least they have a few companies that do well.
 
It makes you thunk how the biggest proponents of subsidizing tech to compete with China are activist investors, who push companies to fire everybody, and replace them with H-1B pajeets doing the bare minimum and chinks who steal everything. When asked why they do this, companies parrot what Nelson Peltz, Daniel Loeb, Bill Ackman, and every other Warren Buffet or Gordon Gekko wannabe tells them: to "compete." Five to ten years later, people wonder why the company doesn't exist anymore, split apart with some units even bought out by Chinese concerns who end up owning intellectual property they first stole, go figure.
 
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