Should Men Get Married?

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Claude Sigma said:
In most of Asia including the country I currently live in, same thing.
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Okay so there you go. Third world. Like I said. I would not advise any man to uproot his life, leave his friends and family behind, just so he can go to a place where he can get married to some squinter without worrying about divorce rape.
Claude Sigma said:
and you love being a victim because nothing is your fault.
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Broooo you obviously did not read the previous discussions
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Black Spruce said:
If your locality doesn't recognize common law marriage, or have laws regarding defacto marriage, then you're extremely lucky. I don't know anywhere outside of the third world like that. So I'm just going to call bullshit and say the places you lives do have those things, but you just aren't aware of them. But even if what you're saying is true, that can change at any time.
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Only eight US states still currently acknowledge common law marriage and several states that previously permitted them have passed legislation specifically abolishing them.

Why post something that's so trivially disproven?
 
Black Spruce said:
Okay so there you go. Third world. Like I said. I would not advise any man to uproot his life, leave his friends and family behind, just so he can go to a place where he can get married to some squinter without worrying about divorce rape.

Broooo you obviously did not read the previous discussions
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Japan is the third world, got it. And you conveniently ignored the fact that I've lived in many European countries too.

You're a bitter incel that doesn't want to improve, only convince yourself and others that everything is fucked and that you're a victim. You could take a plane ticket and move to a perfectly first world place without common law marriage but you decide not to because you love being a victim without responsibility. Keep living in a tyranny.
You're a faggot. I won't reply again.

To normal men in this thread, marriage is a beautiful thing, so are children. For most of us, it will be the main source of meaning in our lives. Tread carefully because all paths worth treading are littered with traps and dangers, but it's worth it. Do find a good woman, do marry her, do not sign a state contract if you don't have to, and live a happy life. If you're White and doing your first marriage, the likelihood of separation is very low. Shitskins and those marrying 5 times fuck up the statistics for normal people. God bless.
 
Claude Sigma said:
You're a bitter incel that doesn't want to improve, only convince yourself and others that everything is fucked and that you're a victim.
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Go back to page 3, retard. Everything I could ever want out of women, I already got, and I got it without marrying them. One of you sex-obsessed losers might not be content in my situation because I don't have 24/7 access to a vagina to fuck, but men who care more about the meaningful things in life like being a father, having a stable household, and actually enjoying life would be perfectly happy like I am. No need to uproot all of it so I can have a woman while maintaining peace of mind. It's ridiculous.
 
If getting married is something you feel that you want to do, make sure you are doing so with good intentions and for the right reasons. Finding out years later that someone married you for the tax breaks or whatever is actually quite hurtful and not romantic at all. It also implies that your relationship could be built on other lies.

To form a close relationship that is truly satisfying, a foundation based on mutual trust and honesty is crucial. Try your best to be a good partner and they should hopefully want to hang on to you.

That being said, if the thought of marriage genuinely fills you with dread, you should listen to your intuition. It could be a self fulfilling prophecy but it is also possible that marriage might not be one of your blessings in this lifetime.
 
Burning Bridge said:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I'd imagine most people nowadays, especially those raised by Boomers and Gen X, have really shitty relationships with their parents as well. Trying to guilt people by "but think of your poor poor parents" isn't gonna work anymore.
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I actually have a really good relationship with my parents, but the notion that I'm obligated to arrange my entire life around achieving THEIR personal goals is deranged.
 
Assuming you're a white Angloid, there is absolutely zero reason for you to marry a white Anglo woman. Zero.

The only hope for trad-inclined or otherwise conservative westoids intent on preserving their culture is to find a high IQ east Asian woman (easy Asian specifically, Filipinas, Thai, Viet/Laotian women are just the niggers of Asia) and basically replicate the position the white woman occupied in the social, cultural, religious and romantic era of the west until the 1950s.

White women are gone, and they aren't coming back in our lifetimes.
 
WSPWSPWSPWSP said:
Prenups can easily get thrown out of court if a party says they signed it under duress.
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Good luck on that happening if you are a straight up person. Make sure they have a lawyer who can also sign they were on it. At that point the chance to appeal a pre-nup is approaching 0%.
this is also why you have separate bank accounts and then a joint bank account for bills and such.
 
Ibanez RG 350EX said:
I think most married men would strongly disagree with this characterization of married life.
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Not my husband 😘

I strongly recommend marrying someone who is actually sexually attracted to you. Many problems come from people being unable to perceive that their chosen partner does not, at a basic level, want to fuck them.

You can't negotiate desire. You can't covertly contract for it either.
 
Unyielding Stupidity said:
No. Nowadays, the odds of a marriage ending in a divorce is worse than coinflip odds, and your marriage ending in a divorce will put you back years at best. There is ZERO consequences for a woman to initiate a divorce, and the courts that handle divorces and child support arrangements are hilariously biased towards the woman. She decides one day that she "can do better"? Enjoy losing tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets.

For all of the women and whiteknights seething about this, you have to understand that the current generation of men in their 20s and 30s are the ones who grew up during the time period when no-fault divorces really began to become commonplace. Pretty much every man either has a male relative who got fucked in a no-fault divorce, or knows a man who got similarly fucked. If you watched a beloved father, uncle, or cousin get fucked because his wife got bored and decided to dump him and steal half his shit, would you REALLY be eager to jump into that same boat yourself?
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Divorce is down at around 42-43%. Average % includes 2nd, 3rd+ marriages, too, which is higher than first marriages.



Under 30% of first time college educated people get divorced.

Younger generations are behind the lower divorce rate​

According to the Pew Research Center, among adults ages 25 to 39, the divorce rate dropped from 30 per 1,000 married individuals in 1990 to 24 in 2015.

This decline is credited at least in part to younger generations being more selective and waiting longer to get married.
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Also of note:

Neuroticism lowers satisfaction in marriage​

One study from 2020Trusted Source found that partners high in neuroticism experience lower levels of marital satisfaction. Neuroticism is a personality trait linked to an increase in negative emotions, including:

  • irritability
  • anxiety
  • self‐consciousness
  • depression
  • emotional instability
In contrast, couples high in carefulness or diligence are more satisfied with their marital life.
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This and prior quote.

Rates down:

What Is the Divorce Rate in the U.S.?​

The national average divorce rate in the U.S. in 2022 was 2.4 per 1,000 people, as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported (Excluding data from California, Hawaii, Indiana, Minnesota, and New Mexico).

It was approximately 33% lower than the average of 3.6 per 1,000 people in 2010 (Excluding California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, and Minnesota data.)

The Centers for Disease Control also reported 673,989 total divorces in the U.S. in 2022, compared to 695,509 in 2021.
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Reasons for divorce:
a diversity of reasons for couples to initiate the divorce process.

  • Lack of commitment (75%)
  • Infidelity/relationships outside of the marriage (59.6%)
  • Conflict, irreconcilable differences (57.7%)
  • Marrying too young (45.1%)
  • Money issues/debt (36.1%)
  • Substance abuse/alcohol addiction (34.6%)
  • Communication problems (31.9%)
  • Inability to have children (27%)
  • Domestic violence (23.5%)
  • A child has a mental illness or is incapacitated (22.7%)
  • Health problems, mental illness of a spouse (20%)
  • Lack of support from family (17.3%)
  • Religious differences (13.3%)
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Black Spruce said:
Having all their needs and wants paid for by someone else in exchange for opening their legs every now and then, doing some cleaning, and cooking.
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Lol.
Party Hat Wurmple said:
Men love the dull old routine and they thrive in it. Women loath it so much that it makes them want to blow their brains out. You can't get around this. All of women's resentment and anger starts from stagnation. That's what causes marriages to have so many problems.
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Actually
Amato and Previti (2003) found that when divorced individuals were asked open-endedly to provide their reasons for divorce, the most cited reasons were infidelity (21.6%), incompatibility (19.2%), and drinking or drug use (10.6%). A statewide survey in Oklahoma found that the most commonly checked reasons for divorce from a list of choices were lack of commitment (85%), too much conflict or arguing (61%), and/or infidelity or extramarital affairs (58%; C. A. Johnson et al., 2001). International studies have found highly endorsed reasons for divorce to be marrying too young, communication problems, incompatibility, spousal abuse, drug and alcohol use, religious differences, failures to get along, lack of love, lack of commitment, and childlessness, to name a few (Al Gharaibeh & Bromfield, 2012; Savaya & Cohen, 2003a, 2003b; Mbosowo, 1994).
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Women initiate 2x as much as men. See some of the above for reasons (though I believe studies above asked both). Also:

Top 5 Reasons Why Women initiate divorce:
1. Unmet Needs
2. Deficient Life-Work Balance
3. Husband's Unfaithfulness
4. Alcohol Addiction
5. Physical and Emotional Violence


Some 30-35% (depending on source) of women cite infidelity by their husband as the reason for divorce.
 
Any redpilled king should avoid marrying any roasties , they should also be upfront with every woman they met how they think that white women are the evil incarnate, single moms should be tarred and feathered and its their godgiven right to paternity test every single child of theirs double so if they are pregnant especially at the beginning of the pregnancy . No king should invest in womans pregnancy without proof that thats their child . No matter how faithful they might seem, women are lying harpies who if they breath they lie therefore you must test them.
Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
so stay single but date to avoid child support? nah man, if you have a child while single she will go after you for child support. that isnt an out.
also, if you stay married to her, you also dont have child support payments. so get married but dont get divorced and dont cheat/dont make her feel neglected so that she doesnt divorce you.
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I dont know where you live but in usa you can easily avoid child support by working under the table or using the courts to demand full custody even if you dont give a shit about the kid or even know how to care for it and use that as a cudgel to make your ex to either relinquish child support payments or part of the money she is owed in divorce settlement. Just look at ralph he is wielding his right to SEE MUH SON to just take shit at his ex door and make her lose whole day dragging her kid from and to the visitation center where there is cps trained professional that can supervise the visit of your abusive ex because of his rights . Also the child support payments for men average around 400 usd per child per month, while the costs for per kid per month go from 1000 usd to 1400 depending on which source you consult. Most men don't comprehend those money they pay they are all for the kid and then some, they see their baby momma treating herself with some manicure or getting her hair done once in a blue moon ITS MAH MONEY BITCH .
Claude Sigma said:
Shitskins and those marrying 5 times fuck up the statistics for normal people. God bless.
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its the fucking boomers man shitskins never get married , whenever i read some boomer biography they all have 3 divorces at minimum. WTF . I was reading about JD vances mom 5 ex husband . NIGGER FIVE EX HUSBANDS HOW ??? even our politicians and oligarchs in my home country whom have a habit to upgrade wifes every 20 years have no more than 3 ex wifes and they fucking rich nigger they can afford that shit.
Flavius Claudius Julianus said:
a high IQ east Asian woman (easy Asian specifically, Filipinas, Thai, Viet/Laotian women are just the niggers of Asia) and basically replicate the position the white woman occupied in the social, cultural, religious and romantic era of the west until the 1950s.
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No high iq mentally stable and respectable east Asian woman would look at your loser back home ass with not degree and no money and unwashed ass and will think horabru man i will marry him and have kids with him . You men always marry the biggest trash in their countries thinking its the shit and you dont know any better.
Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
Some 30-35% (depending on source) of women cite infidelity by their husband as the reason for divorce.
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Now I wanna know the reason why men divorce their wifes. Those cancer patient divorce rates.
 
Friend of Dorothy Parker said:
1. Unmet Needs
2. Deficient Life-Work Balance
3. Husband's Unfaithfulness
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A point on these three reasons. 1 and 2 are intertwined. If you're not making enough money to meet your wife's material needs (wants usually), she will divorce you. Sounds simple, right? Well enter 2. If you work too much and aren't able to spend as much time giving your wife attention, she will feel lonely and either cheat, divorce or both. So to remedy this, you work less to spend more time with your wife, but then that makes you fall afoul of reason 1 and so she divorces your ass.

3 is usually caused because after a woman has kids in a marriage, she turns the sex off and deprives her husband of his sexual needs. Vasopressin is the male love hormone and it is released during sex. Oxytocin is the female love hormone, and it's released during activities like cuddling. Women don't need sex to feel loved in their relationship. Men do. So if a woman turns off the sex, she's still getting her needs, but her husband is not, and he must find an alternate means of getting his needs met.
 
Justa Grata Honoria said:
nigger who the FUCK MARRIES A JUNKIE WHO IS DIVORCEE 2/3/4 times?? seriously wtf boomers?
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from what I’ve seen possible candidates include fellow junkies, men with incredibly low standards, or shitty greaseball men looking for an easy target to abuse or otherwise take advantage of. Don’t know how well Vance’s stepfathers were as I never read the book in full just recall the part where he describes his moms issues with heroin
 
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