Shitty Etsy Products

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PolexiaAphrodisia said:
> claims that she wants to create clothes for oppressed people with disabilities
> claims that she wants to create clothes for young people who may not have access to binders
> charges $80 for an ugly sports bra
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Sky's aesthetic may be risible and her manifesto cringe-inducing, but even setting aside the fact she charges on a sliding scale so people of limited means can afford her products, her prices are fair. Really, it is disgusting how cheap clothes are. A race to the bottom for prices has created a system dependent on worker abuse.

Garment work is typically farmed out to many small manufacturers, whereas Sky makes each piece entirely in-house. A factory will turn out 700 pieces in a day, whereas Sky's production capacity caps out around a dozen, and she carries higher costs at each step of the way.

She is buying fabric wholesale, but not factory-direct at discounted volume. She is spending about $3-$6 on materials per compression bra whereas a factory would be spending well under a dollar.

Have you ever wondered why you sometimes have to try on four or five pairs of "size 6" jeans from the same brand in the same style in order to find one that really fits properly? This is because manufacturers save money by stacking up many layers of fabric and cutting multiple pattern pieces all at once. The layers slide around, so the bottom pieces are likely to end up off-size. Also, pattern pieces are optimized to fit as efficiently as possible into the width of fabric at each size, generating very little fabric waste. In this way, a garment will cost under 50 cents to cut. In contrast, Sky is not doing production runs. She is laying out and cutting each piece individually, per each customer's provided measurements. Her use of fabric is less efficient and her time investment per piece is exponentially higher.

In a factory, clothes are often sewn assembly-line style for maximum efficiency, with one worker sewing side seams at five cents each, another worker sewing shoulder seams at 3 cents each, another worker sewing neck holes at ten cents each, and so on. Another worker will trim and finish at pennies per garment. These workers are typically paid by the piece, which is legal in the US as long as employers guarantee minimum wage, but this system is riddled with abuse and many workers take home less than the legal hourly minimum. Sky is piecing and finishing each garment from beginning to end and paying herself (or an assistant) at the $17-plus hourly threshold that the National Low Income Housing Coalition considers a living wage for Chicago and its suburbs (assuming fair market rent).

For the typical compression bra in her shop, Sky is running $20 in cost of materials and time and marking up 3x to $60 retail. A comparable factory-made bra will cost like $1.50 to make and be marked up 10x to $15 retail. Some of these savings are economies of scale, but a lot of it is worker abuse. Even if Sky sold at cost, she would not be able to compete on price with factory-made garments.
 
Durable Mike Malloy said:
Sky's aesthetic may be risible and her manifesto cringe-inducing, but even setting aside the fact she charges on a sliding scale so people of limited means can afford her products, her prices are fair. Really, it is disgusting how cheap clothes are. A race to the bottom for prices has created a system dependent on worker abuse.

Garment work is typically farmed out to many small manufacturers, whereas Sky makes each piece entirely in-house. A factory will turn out 700 pieces in a day, whereas Sky's production capacity caps out around a dozen, and she carries higher costs at each step of the way.

She is buying fabric wholesale, but not factory-direct at discounted volume. She is spending about $3-$6 on materials per compression bra whereas a factory would be spending well under a dollar.

Have you ever wondered why you sometimes have to try on four or five pairs of "size 6" jeans from the same brand in the same style in order to find one that really fits properly? This is because manufacturers save money by stacking up many layers of fabric and cutting multiple pattern pieces all at once. The layers slide around, so the bottom pieces are likely to end up off-size. Also, pattern pieces are optimized to fit as efficiently as possible into the width of fabric at each size, generating very little fabric waste. In this way, a garment will cost under 50 cents to cut. In contrast, Sky is not doing production runs. She is laying out and cutting each piece individually, per each customer's provided measurements. Her use of fabric is less efficient and her time investment per piece is exponentially higher.

In a factory, clothes are often sewn assembly-line style for maximum efficiency, with one worker sewing side seams at five cents each, another worker sewing shoulder seams at 3 cents each, another worker sewing neck holes at ten cents each, and so on. Another worker will trim and finish at pennies per garment. These workers are typically paid by the piece, which is legal in the US as long as employers guarantee minimum wage, but this system is riddled with abuse and many workers take home less than the legal hourly minimum. Sky is piecing and finishing each garment from beginning to end and paying herself (or an assistant) at the $17-plus hourly threshold that the National Low Income Housing Coalition considers a living wage for Chicago and its suburbs (assuming fair market rent).

For the typical compression bra in her shop, Sky is running $20 in cost of materials and time and marking up 3x to $60 retail. A comparable factory-made bra will cost like $1.50 to make and be marked up 10x to $15 retail. Some of these savings are economies of scale, but a lot of it is worker abuse. Even if Sky sold at cost, she would not be able to compete on price with factory-made garments.
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Her clothes may be ugly, but I can admire a sliding scale on handmade, niche clothing whose maker(s) are paid a living wage.
 
Ever wanted to rub dead babies on your body when you take a shower? Now you can, sorta.
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The fetus soap and this vintage plate with a picture of an empty cradle would be perfect additions to a miscarriage gift basket for that barren lady in your life.
 
KickyerArsene said:
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"Screen accurate Star Lord jacket for women, only 500!"

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She makes a lot of crappy things, but it was this jacket in particular that actually got me banned from Etsy just for telling her she had no idea what "screen accurate" meant and that her jacket is on par with tons upon tons of Chinese knockoff movie replica jackets on Ebay that retail for 1/5 the price.
I love too how it's the "female" version of a jacket. As if women need a wholly different design to wear jackets, because bewbs. I thought you'd just buy one size up so it'd be a little looser.

Etsy is a pretty bad site now that I think about it. They'll ban you for upsetting anyone of these 'fragile' and gifted artists.

My sentiment is, don't be an artist if you can't handle criticism.
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One - female cuts for clothing is absolutely a thing, specifically because women have boobs. 'Sizing up', as you recommended, just means that you're getting a garment that is too big in the waist, and that would be a serious problem on a fitted garment like this. Why do you think there is such a thing as 'women's suits'?
Two - it is impossible to tell the quality of the garment from the pictures you posted, but it looks no worse than the sort of thing you'd get from a big cosplay manufacturer at £80+. Not really sure this belongs on 'shitty etsy products', not unless she's charging £1000s for it.
Three: messaging a supplier for the sole purpose of butching about items you have not bought and have no intention of buying is absolutely inappropriate and they have every right to ban you. This isn't being 'fragile', this is them expecting you to behave like an intelligent and civilised person and you failing to do so. Again, messaging a supplier for no reason other than to insult work you have no intention of buying is dumb.
Four - we are not a trolling website. We are here to point and laugh, not to give you asspats for your pathetic 'epic' weening.

TL;DR - your post was dumb, your weening attempt was dumb and you should do some research on women's clothes before you try to school anybody.

ETA: If that jacket is real leather then not only does she look to have done a reasonable job of stitching it but she is also charging a very good price. Factory made leather jackets go well into the £100s, and leather is extremely difficult to cut and stitch, requiring specialist equipment. A decent leather sewing machine for leather jackets or upholstery costs well into the £1000s - the first one to come up on my google search is $6250.00 - and I didn't even check the quality of that. For a handmade leather jacket made in (I'm assuming) the US by a single person and not a factory, $500 is more than reasonable.
 
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It's made of goat m.ilk, so it's not vegan.

Why are there so many artisanal soap people? How much soap do people buy?
The worst was the time I saw an artisanal broom guy. What kind of business model is that? The whole point of assembly lines is so that shit can be made cheaply and quickly, and while there's clearly a difference between factory clothes and handsewn clothes, I refuse to believe 'craft brooms' or even 'craft soap' are an improvement.
 
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Crunchy Leaf said:
It's made of goat tard cum, so it's not vegan.

Why are there so many artisanal soap people? How much soap do people buy?
The worst was the time I saw an artisanal broom guy. What kind of business model is that? The whole point of assembly lines is so that shit can be made cheaply and quickly, and while there's clearly a difference between factory clothes and handsewn clothes, I refuse to believe 'craft brooms' or even 'craft soap' are an improvement.
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Most craft brooms are used for decorative shit. Like so:
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Ah, that's fair. And the restaurants that insist on putting random 'rural' tchotchkes on their walls like washboards and fancy brooms or whatever need to buy them somewhere.

I dislike bar soap a lot, so I dislike fancy bar soap even more.
 
Crunchy Leaf said:
I dislike bar soap a lot, so I dislike fancy bar soap even more.
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Bar soap can be a pain to use but the "fancy" soap (aka not Irish Spring or whatever is 99cents at the grocery store) is a vast improvement. It doesn't dry your skin as much and usually has more beneficial ingredients like oils and less harsh surfactants. BUT I'd rather use a good quality shower gel anyday.

And there's a lot of soap makers because it's fairly easy to do, but expensive to do without selling to make some of the cost of materials back. People get grand ideas of opening soap companies, but there's only so much you can do before you're trying to reinvent the wheel.
 
Lurkette said:
the first two pictures are of the same product, the second is the same but differently themed product

ten guesses what the fuck they're suppose to be
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I was going to say mug for the first two until I saw they were made of some kind of fabric. Jewelry holder (with the phallic-looking thing being for rings)?

Thread catcher for needlework?
 
Blue Footed Boobies said:
I was going to say mug for the first two until I saw they were made of some kind of fabric. Jewelry holder (with the phallic-looking thing being for rings)?

Thread catcher for needlework?
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Miss Hortensia said:
Fire accelerant?
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fire accelerant would be a good guess, except you're suppose to wear this shit

you ever heard of "fascinators"?
aka "mini top/clip on hats"?

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these specific ones are eeveelution themed
first two are regular/shiny umbreon, second is flareon
shockingly, Blazing Butterfly Boutique has had no sales (but 5 admirers...hmmm...)

the vaporeon one is by far the "best" out of the bunch; you can't even see any loose threads or hot glue strands!
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searching common fandoms for arts and crafts is always fun to do, since you either find something really cool or
well


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i can't distinguish limbs from cloth, they all look like they're melting

tbf they are listed as prototypes, and the person seems to have improved some, but
c'mon man
just cut your losses and burn your mistakes like any decent artist would


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H A N D P A I N T E D P E N C I L S

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>"inclusive feminism"
>use of the venus symbol, which many SJWs find to be "TERFy"

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imagine someone wearing this on their lapel

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I.........
 
I don't know why witchcraft/witches is suddenly so popular among autists, but it does bring a lot of potential for terrible etsy products.
 
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