Severe Weather outbreaks

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This thing's gonna be a monster.
I’m going to put my hand up and ask a stupid question again. Is cat 5 the limit for a physical reason, or just because we’ve only been measuring wind speeds for the blink of an eye? I assume there’s some kind of upper limit on how strong a hurricane can be from just how much energy is in the system and the geography?
 
I’m going to put my hand up and ask a stupid question again. Is cat 5 the limit for a physical reason, or just because we’ve only been measuring wind speeds for the blink of an eye? I assume there’s some kind of upper limit on how strong a hurricane can be from just how much energy is in the system and the geography?
The Category System is actually a scale of how much potential damage the Hurricane will cause to structures so you don’t really need to expand the system past Cat 5 since no matter how well a building is constructed if it’s facing winds stronger than 156 miles per hour for any period of time longer than a few seconds its going to have at the very least serious structural damage if it’s not outright completely destroyed. It’s like the EF scale for tornados expect we can at least know how bad it is going to be in advance and evacuate before it hits.
 
The Category System is actually a scale of how much potential damage the Hurricane will cause to structures so you don’t really need to expand the system past Cat 5 since no matter how well a building is constructed if it’s facing winds stronger than 156 miles per hour for any period of time longer than a few seconds its going to have at the very least serious structural damage if it’s not outright completely destroyed
Got it. Can’t get more fucked than ‘totally.’
Is there a max wind speed? Lowest pressure? There has to be some kind of limit somewhere.
I vaguely remember hearing similar about earthquakes (not that the scale is about damage but rather you can’t get beyond 9. Something)?
 
Got it. Can’t get more fucked than ‘totally.’
Is there a max wind speed? Lowest pressure? There has to be some kind of limit somewhere.
I vaguely remember hearing similar about earthquakes (not that the scale is about damage but rather you can’t get beyond 9. Something)?
There is theories that there was possibly far worse natural disasters way long ago. There are some mass extinction events that were natural disasters, but when referring to scales, its mostly a reference to recorded history. You could in theory have go way beyond anything recorded, but the time it would take to see something so powerful that it can cause a mass extinction event would take tens of thousands of years (probably).
 
Got it. Can’t get more fucked than ‘totally.’
Is there a max wind speed? Lowest pressure? There has to be some kind of limit somewhere.
I vaguely remember hearing similar about earthquakes (not that the scale is about damage but rather you can’t get beyond 9. Something)?
The highest recorded 1 minute sustained winds in a tropical cyclone was 215 MPH in Hurricane Patricia off the SW coast of Mexico. Strongest recorded gust was 254 MPH in Cyclone Olivia, which hit Western Australia.
 
Florida is going to get wiped off the map
Homeowners' insurance in Florida is getting so expensive because of these hurricanes there will likely be a mass exodus from the state in the years to come. They simply can't afford the premiums, or the insurers flat-out discharge the policies and stop operating in the market. What do you do then?
 
I vaguely remember hearing similar about earthquakes (not that the scale is about damage but rather you can’t get beyond 9. Something
Earthquakes are measured on the Richter scale, which is based on seismic wave strength. This is different to the hurricane or tornado categories, which are both based on damage levels.

Earthquakes in theory have no upper limit, but in practical terms, a 10 or higher would require hundreds, if not thousands, of kilometres of fault lines to rupture violently all at once, and it's unknown if the earth's crust can actually generate that amount of energy. The 2004 Boxing Day quake was 9.2-9.3, and it was powerful enough to affect the earth's rotation. In addition, the Richter Scale is logarithmic, not sequential. A 10 is not slightly stronger than a 9.0; it is many times stronger than a 9.0.
 
Thoughts on Nadine? Is it going to fizzle out or not? Asking for the boards on my windows.
 
Space weather is pretty severe and Mercury is going to get hit with a big one! Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I honestly don't know where else to stick this and think it's all neat:
 
Space weather is pretty severe and Mercury is going to get hit with a big one! Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I honestly don't know where else to stick this and think it's all neat:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iYgi38wgr3w
This is the severe weather thread. It doesn't specify the location of said severe weather. Also, solar flares do influence earth's weather, even if that influence is poorly understood.

My vote is that solar storms are relevant to our interest.
 
Space weather is pretty severe and Mercury is going to get hit with a big one! Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I honestly don't know where else to stick this and think it's all neat:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iYgi38wgr3w
Mercury being hit with a solar flare is like Oklahoma getting hit with a tornado outbreak in May or Florida getting a hurricane in September.
 
Mercury being hit with a solar flare is like Oklahoma getting hit with a tornado outbreak in May or Florida getting a hurricane in September.
Right, the video isn't all about Mercury though; Talks about the solar maximum we're in, past lows and highs, major sun spots like the one that just hit Mercury on the far side of the sun now, but will be turning back at us.
 
Even our sun is telling us to knock our shit off or we're going to get spanked with the solar flare belt.
 
This is the severe weather thread. It doesn't specify the location of said severe weather. Also, solar flares do influence earth's weather, even if that influence is poorly understood.

My vote is that solar storms are relevant to our interest.

Solar Storms are completely relevant to anyone relying on electricity, so.. yeah. I'd say they're pretty relevant and worth paying attention to.
 
Solar Storms are completely relevant to anyone relying on electricity, so.. yeah. I'd say they're pretty relevant and worth paying attention to.
That's a technicality, there's people much smarter than any of us who already monitor for that sort of thing and warn the relevant infrastructure managers if there will be a solar event significant enough to cause damage to said systems so that they can take their precautions. Unless a solar storm is particularly relevant and intense enough to have significant impact on our electrical systems, this is the equivalent of watching those YouTube channels where amateur mets sperg out about long term model data and make "totally 100% accurate" predictions on significant weather events that ultimately may or may not happen, because weather prediction really doesn't start getting accurate until about 3-5 days out from a relevant event (usually due to short-term, convection-allowing model differences), and even then, it can still be too messy to call even on the day of and sometimes requires careful monitoring when it's currently happening.
 
Solar Storms are completely relevant to anyone relying on electricity, so.. yeah. I'd say they're pretty relevant and worth paying attention to.
If we spent maybe 100 billion dollars (or one year of Ukraine "aid" packages) we'd literally never have to worry about solar flares again. All you need is an array of satellites with electromagnets and copper wire and solar flares just get brushed off harmlessly. The tech was there for this 50 years ago.

We're going to have a painful, civilization-wide reminder of this one day that for so many decades we treated safety from space weather like building in a flood plain without a single levee. Huge mistake.
 
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