Science Seven moral rules found all around the world - according to some oxford bloke

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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/03/190304134216.htm
Anthropologists at the University of Oxford have discovered what they believe to be seven universal moral rules.

The rules: help your family, help your group, return favors, be brave, defer to superiors, divide resources fairly, and respect others' property, were found in a survey of 60 cultures from all around the world.

Previous studies have looked at some of these rules in some places -- but none has looked at all of them in a large representative sample of societies. The present study, published in volume 60, no. 1 issue of Current Anthropology, by Oliver Scott Curry, Daniel Austin Mullins, and Harvey Whitehouse, is the largest and most comprehensive cross-cultural survey of morals ever conducted.

The team from Oxford's Institute of Cognitive & Evolutionary Anthropology (part of the School of Anthropology & Museum Ethnography) analyzed ethnographic accounts of ethics from 60 societies, comprising over 600,000 words from over 600 sources.

Dr Oliver Scott Curry, lead author and senior researcher at the Institute for Cognitive and Evolutionary Anthropology, said: "The debate between moral universalists and moral relativists has raged for centuries, but now we have some answers. People everywhere face a similar set of social problems and use a similar set of moral rules to solve them. As predicted, these seven moral rules appear to be universal across cultures. Everyone everywhere shares a common moral code. All agree that cooperating, promoting the common good, is the right thing to do."

The study tested the theory that morality evolved to promote cooperation, and that -- because there are many types of cooperation -- there are many types of morality. According to this theory of 'morality as cooperation', kin selection explains why we feel a special duty of care for our families, and why we abhor incest. Mutualism explains why we form groups and coalitions (there is strength and safety in numbers), and hence why we value unity, solidarity, and loyalty. Social exchange explains why we trust others, reciprocate favors, feel guilt and gratitude, make amends, and forgive. And conflict resolution explains why we engage in costly displays of prowess such as bravery and generosity, why we defer to our superiors, why we divide disputed resources fairly, and why we recognize prior possession.

The research found, first, that these seven cooperative behaviors were always considered morally good. Second, examples of most of these morals were found in most societies. Crucially, there were no counter-examples -- no societies in which any of these behaviors were considered morally bad. And third, these morals were observed with equal frequency across continents; they were not the exclusive preserve of 'the West' or any other region.

Among the Amhara of Ethiopia, "flouting kinship obligation is regarded as a shameful deviation, indicating an evil character." In Korea, there exists an "egalitarian community ethic [of] mutual assistance and cooperation among neighbors [and] strong in-group solidarity." "Reciprocity is observed in every stage of Garo life [and] has a very high place in the Garo social structure of values." Among the Maasai, "Those who cling to warrior virtues are still highly respected," and "the uncompromising ideal of supreme warriorhood [involves] ascetic commitment to self-sacrifice...in the heat of battle, as a supreme display of courageous loyalty." The Bemba exhibit "a deep sense of respect for elders' authority." The Kapauku "idea of justice" is called "uta-uta, half-half... [the meaning of which] comes very close to what we call equity." And among the Tarahumara, "respect for the property of others is the keystone of all interpersonal relations."

The study also detected 'variation on a theme' -- although all societies seemed to agree on the seven basic moral rules, they varied in how they prioritized or ranked them. The team has now developed a new moral values questionnaire to gather data on modern moral values, and is investigating whether cross-cultural variation in moral values reflects variation in the value of cooperation under different social conditions.
According to co-author Professor Harvey Whitehouse, anthropologists are uniquely placed to answer long-standing questions about moral universals and moral relativism. "Our study was based on historical descriptions of cultures from around the world; this data was collected prior to, and independently of, the development of the theories that we were testing. Future work will be able to test more fine-grained predictions of the theory by gathering new data, even more systematically, out in the field."

"We hope that this research helps to promote mutual understanding between people of different cultures; an appreciation of what we have in common, and how and why we differ," added Curry.
 
I mean, it is pretty interesting to study other cultures and see how many things they share in common. Some values are universally human.
 
I remember this article coming out about a month ago and they sperged on reddit over defer to superiors and help your group because only a nazi thinks like that, or something along those lines.


Edit: I found the original study, which was actually published 3 years ago:


Edit2: I looked it up for a bit, found this:

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Funny thing is that it says "5 days ago", but I could have sworn I read those comments at least a month ago. Either bots or npcs, take your pick.
 
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The rules: help your family, help your group, return favors, be brave, defer to superiors, divide resources fairly, and respect others' property, were found in a survey of 60 cultures from all around the world.
Communists/socialists have trouble with the last two, so go figure.
 
I remember this article coming out about a month ago and they sperged on reddit over defer to superiors and help your group because only a nazi thinks like that, or something along those lines.


Edit: I found the original study, which was actually published 3 years ago:


Edit2: I looked it up for a bit, found this:

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Funny thing is that it says "5 days ago", but I could have sworn I read those comments at least a month ago. Either bots or npcs, take your pick.

I don't know why they're acting as though these are demands being made of them rather than just basic observation.
 
Well it is not as if communism ever worked.... wonder why.
That wasn't real communism! I'm not sure if you had any particular one in mind but I do know magically that it wasn't real communism. If it was real communism it would have ?? worked!??
 
I remember this article coming out about a month ago and they sperged on reddit over defer to superiors and help your group because only a nazi thinks like that, or something along those lines.


Edit: I found the original study, which was actually published 3 years ago:


Edit2: I looked it up for a bit, found this:

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Funny thing is that it says "5 days ago", but I could have sworn I read those comments at least a month ago. Either bots or npcs, take your pick.
So... listen to your boss/leader and be charitable and a team player? They're acting like the moral is "be a doormat" and "help everyone or no one" and it's obvious that's not what it means at all.
A good example is the military; they thrive on those two morals; listen to your superiors and whatever you do, you help one another of your fellows out because you're all in it together.
 
who said your group has anything to do with how often you wash your face

also I don't see "attack other groups" in there. are we sure they're not missing something?

It's the new version of being "pro-family" or supporting the nuclear family. Remember when that was the dog whistle that that caused people like them to have a total meltdown?
 
It's the new version of being "pro-family" or supporting the nuclear family. Remember when that was the dog whistle that that caused people like them to have a total meltdown?

I also don't see "your immediate family" defined as "your group". they're two different things. it seems like every culture has its own idea of what "your group" means. whatever it means, you help that group.

the nuclear family is really a recent invention and not world wide, so I understand why they identified it as a dogwhistle.
"your family" could mean "your in laws" in some places. there's entire cultures where the men/women are sent to the in laws when they get married.
 
I also don't see "your immediate family" defined as "your group". they're two different things. it seems like every culture has its own idea of what "your group" means. whatever it means, you help that group.

the nuclear family is really a recent invention and not world wide, so I understand why they identified it as a dogwhistle.
"your family" could mean "your in laws" in some places. there's entire cultures where the men/women are sent to the in laws when they get married.

It was all so very, very stupid and I'm talking about core/nuclear family in the West going back some 20-30 years.

One facet of it was this: a single mother is just as good as a couple, if not better because a man isn't involved, and supporting the nuclear family means that women wouldn't be able to divorce abusive men. That slippery slope kind of reasoning is still used whenever any kind of natural group cohesion comes up, almost as if someone is willfully eroding the foundations...
 
Can people here keep politics out of this discussion as much as humanly possible? The focus here is on psychological/sociological matters, not to bash left wingers, or any group with other kinds of political values for that matter. You've already got political news threads to do that in, I'm just utterly sick to death of seeing/hearing stuff about it
 
I'm suspicious that these universal moral rules don't involve any negative precepts, like "don't steal," "don't kill," "don't fuck your relatives," "don't lie" and so forth.
 
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