[Serious] Trying out a boxing gym - I could post this in Health and Fitness but I get faster responses here

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without powerleveling too hard, i was out yesterday and on my way to work. i always pass this gym that I never really looked too deep into. one day, i had some time to kill and decided to check it out. i noticed on the front of their building that they do boxing training and as a huge fan of combat sports, i wanted to see what it was all about

got to talk to a former UFC fighter which was fun, we shot the shit about some ufc stuff and were talking about different gyms. so after talking to him for a bit, i asked "so how much would it be to start"

the man replied with "$300/month" which made me laugh but he was explaining
  • we use high end equipment
  • we have 24/7 gym
  • we have boxing lessons
  • we have HIT classes
but he invited me for a lesson in the next few days and i'm gonna go but i don't feel right justified paying $300 a month for a gym membership. i've looked into it and they train all sorts of athletes regardless of which 3 letter organization they are from.

should i pull the trigger bros and do it or find a cheaper alternative? i really like combat sports and want to get into training but the price tag is a bit steep
 
It should toughen you up, I suppose. Membership seems reasonable and if you're into cruising then you'll find plenty of post-workout action in the men's changing room.
 
If the money is not an issue, you might as well.

I did join a Brazilian Jui-Jitsu gym for a couple of months. I’m pretty sure it was a low-level cult for Andrew Tate watchers and other homosexuals and sexual deviants.

One of the instructors had been recently arrested for child molestation, and another seemed to have groomed one of the teenage girls to be his girlfriend. None of the instructors were married, even the older head guy for some reason.
 
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If the money is not an issue, you might as well.

I did join a Brazilian Jui-Jitsu gym for a couple of months. I’m pretty sure it was low-level cult for Andrew Tate watchers and other homosexuals and sexual deviants.

One of the instructors had been recently arrested for child molestation, and another seemed to have groomed one of the teenage girls to being his boyfriend. None of the instructors were married, even the older head guy for some reason.
money isn't exactly an issue but i didn't expect it to be $300 i guess.

also reassuring to know that your instructors are pedophiles lol. it's not cause that's what "based alpha males" do, i just really love the sport of fighting

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It should toughen you up, I suppose. Membership seems reasonable and if you're into cruising then you'll find plenty of post-workout action in the men's changing room.
yeah they claim to train a lot of high end fighters, also it's a private gym. i guess i understand the value
 
Boxing is good and I recommend it if you wanna toughen up and get a good workout. The gym sounds solid but $300 is steep as fuck. I suggest you check for alternatives. You don't need "high-end equipment" or to follow a pro's training regime just to pick up the basics and get a good workout in.
 
$300/month for a 24/7 gym that includes combat sports training from actual former pro fighters is just a few hairs above that of a steal in your favor... if you wanna actually learn to box with the intent of going pro.

I'm gonna say this from the perspective of someone who, to powerlevel a little, has engaged in combat sports extensively since 15 years old and continued pursuing until 28 years old. You need to consider what value you're going to get out of it in relation to the value you're putting in - to me, if I were still fighting, I'd be getting a lot out of that since it'd be a reliable location to train among peers and improve my skills.

If you're a regular joe, you're paying a more sizeable amount for something that may not see much long-term use but will keep you physically fit. If money's no object and you like that level of fitness and to learn a way to defend yourself that's likely tested, then there's no real argument against it.

That being said, do your research on the gym. Learn what fighters have come from there, learn their records - including the guy you talked to, look up the actual coaches, look at their records and the records of their trainees outside of the gym. You're not looking for a bunch of 30-0 martial gods, you're looking for guys who clearly have a good amount of fights under their belt - even a record of like, 3-3 is more substantial than a guy with a record of 3-0 since they're going to have more experience fighting under the constraints they'd be training you under. You also wanna make sure those records are either recent (for the ones still of fighting age) or within the appropriate bracket for their fighting age and they're still in respectable shape.

If they've got boxing training, they likely have pro boxers, see how many of the fighters they take credit for still have active boxing licenses (If your country requires them). Guys who get into pro boxing and quit tend to have inactive licenses since they're not gonna renew them.

When you go in for the lesson, take a look around the gym when you have time, look at the equipment, see how new or well-maintained any of it is. If it's all shiny and brand new with not a lot of people using it, it means they spent a lot on new gear for not a lot of patrons. If it's good quality but clearly under frequent use, that means there's clearly a retention rate.

Oh also, check the ears - you said you like combat sports, you know what cauliflower ear looks like. Also if they've got small chests and big shoulders, they're definitely keeping themselves in fighting shape, which is always a good marker, though a good coach isn't always gonna be in fighting shape - Cus D'Amato's best years as a coach were when he was a tubby little midget.

And also remember, of course, this is a privately-owned gym, they need money to keep the lights on and to eat. They're gonna want that money out of your pocket, even if they've got good intentions. Remember that whatever they do, it's going to be with the intention of getting a transaction out of you, even if they're ultimately interested in helping or befriending you.
 
Waste of money for a beginner, especially if you wind up not liking it. Then you're $300 in the hole for fuck all.

You should condition yourself first with cardio, calisthenics, and then maybe resistance training with, say, a good kettlebell routine before making a serious investment. Hell, private, one-on-one martial arts training might be preferable at that price point.

Then again, it's your money, so whatever.
Edit: PS boxing is gay.
 
Boxing is good and I recommend it if you wanna toughen up and get a good workout. The gym sounds solid but $300 is steep as fuck. I suggest you check for alternatives. You don't need "high-end equipment" or to follow a pro's training regime just to pick up the basics and get a good workout in.
yeah, i wanna learn how to actually fight rather than throwing wet noodle punches
$300/month for a 24/7 gym that includes combat sports training from actual former pro fighters is just a few hairs above that of a steal in your favor... if you wanna actually learn to box with the intent of going pro.
i guess for me personally, i wouldn't mind trying amateur fights but i don't know about going professional. i've debated a lot in my head if i ever wanted to professionally fight.

it's something i really love but it's not an extremely profitable hobby. i don't know how to phrase it without saying "i'm doing it for the money" but

it's love for the sport vs injuries/CTE/low pay is i guess the pros and cons. without sperging hard, i really do love the sport but i get it.

If you're a regular joe, you're paying a more sizeable amount for something that may not see much long-term use but will keep you physically fit. If money's no object and you like that level of fitness and to learn a way to defend yourself that's likely tested, then there's no real argument against it.
i am a regular joe but i think i could do it. maybe it's my ego but it's something i do wanna do. i am a big fan of working hard to be able to achieve your goals. though i would be put through the ringer, i feel like i could takeaway some nice lessons from it

That being said, do your research on the gym. Learn what fighters have come from there, learn their records - including the guy you talked to, look up the actual coaches, look at their records and the records of their trainees outside of the gym. You're not looking for a bunch of 30-0 martial gods, you're looking for guys who clearly have a good amount of fights under their belt - even a record of like, 3-3 is more substantial than a guy with a record of 3-0 since they're going to have more experience fighting under the constraints they'd be training you under. You also wanna make sure those records are either recent (for the ones still of fighting age) or within the appropriate bracket for their fighting age and they're still in respectable shape.
yeah, i did a bit of that last night. i don't want to say who they have trained but it made me laugh. if i mention it on here, it's going to dox where i live lol. i'd have to ask questions though, i'm checking out the place on tuesday so i'll get the rundown there. i am not a HUGE boxing fan but i am aware of the more popular ones/mainstream ones.
If they've got boxing training, they likely have pro boxers, see how many of the fighters they take credit for still have active boxing licenses (If your country requires them). Guys who get into pro boxing and quit tend to have inactive licenses since they're not gonna renew them.
good advice, didn't know that one. thank you
When you go in for the lesson, take a look around the gym when you have time, look at the equipment, see how new or well-maintained any of it is. If it's all shiny and brand new with not a lot of people using it, it means they spent a lot on new gear for not a lot of patrons. If it's good quality but clearly under frequent use, that means there's clearly a retention rate.
i didn't get to see the inside but they have a see through glass where you can see a boxing stage with punching bags and equipment. the place looked spotless and really clean. i will say i was impressed with how nice it looked

And also remember, of course, this is a privately-owned gym, they need money to keep the lights on and to eat. They're gonna want that money out of your pocket, even if they've got good intentions. Remember that whatever they do, it's going to be with the intention of getting a transaction out of you, even if they're ultimately interested in helping or befriending you.
understood, thanks solider. it was nice reading your response.

You could just buy a good punching bag for that price and if you want to spar just hang out at your local Popeyes or wafflehouse
or save the $300 and use the local niggers as a punching bag
Last i checked this wasn't your fucking diary faggot and yes you should definitely pull the trigger etc.
you should take some boxing lessons
 
i guess for me personally, i wouldn't mind trying amateur fights but i don't know about going professional. i've debated a lot in my head if i ever wanted to professionally fight.

it's something i really love but it's not an extremely profitable hobby. i don't know how to phrase it without saying "i'm doing it for the money" but

it's love for the sport vs injuries/CTE/low pay is i guess the pros and cons. without sperging hard, i really do love the sport but i get it.
I can tell you right now, a vast majority of everyone who's gotten in the ring did it for money. That is the normal motivation: The potential financial gains, because if you really make it, you can make some goddamn good money. The upper percentile is something like $120k a year, that's good money if you know where to spend it. And those who hit celeb boxer status obviously make far more than that in even just a month. The issue, is, of course, you're getting it in return for being punched in the head repeatedly and it is not a long-term career, you will inevitably have to quit it.

If they're not doing it for the money, and they're instead doing it for something like "glory" or "the thrill of the fight," they're a crazy person and not a good source of advice. Is there some glory in it? Yeah but the glory doesn't cover my water bill. And near any prizefighter will tell you just about the same thing.

From the perspective of someone who did decide to do it: Do not ever go pro. It's a lot of work and a lot of bodily harm for what is ultimately selling your soul in a far less fun fashion than the usual stories. Muhammad Ali had plenty of glory and even more money. He also died wearing a diaper because he couldn't exert any force on his abdominals to shit. No one wants to die that way. You don't, I don't.

Besides, if you're debating it, you ain't serious on it anyway. But if money is no object and you think the training itself be something to fill your time in a constructive fashion, so long as it seems reputable based on what you've looked into and what I've suggested, I see no reason not to at least consider it.
 
From the perspective of someone who did decide to do it: Do not ever go pro. It's a lot of work and a lot of bodily harm for what is ultimately selling your soul in a far less fun fashion than the usual stories. Muhammad Ali had plenty of glory and even more money. He also died wearing a diaper because he couldn't exert any force on his abdominals to shit. No one wants to die that way. You don't, I don't.
my point, i want to box but still be able to live a somewhat fruitful life

Besides, if you're debating it, you ain't serious on it anyway. But if money is no object and you think the training itself be something to fill your time in a constructive fashion, so long as it seems reputable based on what you've looked into and what I've suggested, I see no reason not to at least consider it.
you're right, i'm not 100% serious on the idea but it's not out of the realm of consideration. i guess i see it more as a hobby/past time than something i want to go pro in. i respect any and all athletes that are able to step into the ring and duke it out with one another.

great conversation brother, you've given me a lot of good advice and put my mind at ease with a lot of shit.
 
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