Science Scientists Genetically Engineered Flies to Ejaculate Under Red Light

  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
source
archive

Their experiments confirm that sex is pleasurable, even for animals we think of as simple.

Humans have spent a lot of time figuring out ways to get animals to ejaculate. They have fashioned artificial vaginas, inserted electric probes, and donned helmets that encourage birds to hump their heads. Now, Shir Zer-Krispil, from Bar-Ilan University in Israel, has developed perhaps the greatest technique of all: She genetically engineered flies to automatically ejaculate whenever they walk under red light.

The male insects have specific abdominal neurons that trigger the release of sperm by producing a chemical called corazonin (so named because it also makes insect hearts beat). Usually, corazonin-making neurons only fire after a complicated courtship ritual that involves chasing, stroking, singing, and eventually mating. But Zer-Krispil dispensed with all that lead-up by putting those neurons under the control of a red-sensitive protein.

Thirty seconds after the engineered males walk into a red-lit chamber, their abdomens curl up and they ejaculate. And then, they do it again. It happens seven times a minute, for up to three minutes. The flies had the option of walking into an unlit part of their chamber, but once they entered the red-light district, they tended to stay there.

Why red? First, it passes through living tissues easily, so even an overhead lamp can trigger neurons nestled deep within a fly’s body. Second, flies can’t see red, so it’s clear that their movements aren’t due to any visual attraction. Third ... it’s fitting? “We definitely thought about that,” says Galit Shohat-Ophir, who led the work.

Through this experiment, and several others, the team has shown that sex is a pleasurable experience for flies—or specifically, that ejaculation is for the males. It releases the same chemicals that are linked to rewarding experiences in mammals. It creates associations that make other stimuli occurring at the same time—like a smell—desirable in their own right. It even substitutes for other rewards: Male flies that have recently ejaculated are less enticed by alcohol.

This might seem obvious, but the study of animal sex tends to be curiously sanitized and anhedonic. The focus falls on the mechanics of the act and its evolutionary benefits, while subjective experiences are ignored for fear of anthropomorphism. It is often said that humans are among the only animals that have sex “for pleasure”—an elite club that might grudgingly include bonobos and dolphins, but little else. And even if the idea that animals are enjoying themselves is not explicitly denied, it’s often just plain ignored. Animal sex becomes all business, and no ... well, you know.

That seems unlikely. Many animals have sex at times when they’re infertile or in ways that can’t possibly lead to reproduction. Several species practice oral sex, including bonobos (of course), brown bears (in captivity), and several kinds of bat (the music choice in this video is something). A lot of them masturbate. “I definitely think animals have pleasure,” says Shohat-Ophir. “It’s hard if you define pleasure from a human point of view, but it [comes down to] very basic machinery that even simpler animals have.”

For example, when flies mate, their brains accumulate a substance called neuropeptide F, which acts as a “molecular signature of rewarding experiences,” Shohat-Ophir says. Even without mating, a burst of corazonin, stimulated by red light, can produce the same burst of NPF.

“Think of the reward system as a reservoir and NPF as a float that measures the amount within it,” says Shohat-Ophir. When levels are low, the insects are more motivated to top up their reservoirs by seeking out rewarding experiences. For instance, in an earlier study, her team found that sex-deprived flies will more readily turn to alcohol. (No barfly jokes, please; since these flies eat fermented fruit, alcohol is a natural part of their diet.) And in the team’s latest experiments, they found that a burst of corazonin can quell that desire. After ejaculating, males will choose a sober meal over a boozy one.

“For the first time, we see that neurons outside the brain can induce feelings of reward, which change the internal state of the animal, and changes their perception of a drug,” says Shohat-Ophir.

This isn’t just about flies. Mammals have a closely related chemical called neuropeptide Y that could similarly act as a mental currency of reward. In rodents, NPY is depleted by stressful events and leads to cravings for alcohol. Other scientists are already looking to see if NPY levels are linked to alcoholism or drug addiction.

“Neuropeptides are some of the most complex and least studied brain chemicals,” says Karla Kaun, from Brown University. “They show striking similarity in how they regulate behavioral states in many species, whether or not they have a spine.”
Recommended Reading

That’s useful: It might be easier to examine how they work in flies than in rodents because scientists can manipulate specific neurons with greater precision—as the red-light experiments show. By studying flies, Shohat-Ophir hopes to learn more about human problems like addiction.

Of course, her team only has half the picture so far, because they’ve only studied male flies. That’s par for the course. Even among humans, the study and understanding of women’s pleasure has lagged significantly behind that of men’s. (As a friend of mine said to me after I told her about the flies: “We are going to study male fruit-fly pleasure before we study human women.”)

Shohat-Ophir has already done some preliminary studies on what the female flies feel, and she’ll publish those results soon. In the meantime, she tells me about a study, published 17 years ago by Mexican researchers. It found that for male rats, any sexual interaction that ends in actual mating is rewarding. For females, “it’s pleasurable only when the female chooses to mate,” Shohat-Ophir says.

(the article is from 2018)
 
This part says what the journo wants from the study, and possibly why it was conducted:
This might seem obvious, but the study of animal sex tends to be curiously sanitized and anhedonic. The focus falls on the mechanics of the act and its evolutionary benefits, while subjective experiences are ignored for fear of anthropomorphism.
🇮🇱: """Here is why animals can consent."""
 
The jews' ultimate goal is to short-circuit sex, passing directly from stimulus to pleasure-giving neuropeptides. Much like the administration of the drug Soma in Brave New World. No one would have sex "the old way" then, and there'll be no more procreation. Of course the jews will monopolize this pleasure technology.
 
First they shit on everything and now they could possibly jizz on everything?

What the fuck Israel?
 
This is called optogenetics. They take Crz neurons and they sensitize them to red light with opsins. The reason why they use flies for this is because they're largely transparent to the frequency of light in question. If you wanted to do this with a mammal, you'd need to pipe it in with fiber-optics implanted in the tissue.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I64X7vHSHOE
As Mr. Todger here helpfully explains, there actually is kind of a purpose to this sort of research, to study the use of opsins. For example, cochlear implants for the deaf kinda suck right now because you just can't fit enough electrodes to replace all those little hairs in your ear.

Now imagine if instead you could use opsins and fiber-optics in an implant to sensitize the auditory nerve instead. They are actually trying stuff like this and supposedly it provides a much more similar brain response to natural hearing.
 
As Mr. Todger here helpfully explains, there actually is kind of a purpose to this sort of research, to study the use of opsins. For example, cochlear implants for the deaf kinda suck right now because you just can't fit enough electrodes to replace all those little hairs in your ear.

Now imagine if instead you could use opsins and fiber-optics in an implant to sensitize the auditory nerve instead. They are actually trying stuff like this and supposedly it provides a much more similar brain response to natural hearing.
Another little trick that opsins have is selectivity. They need to genetically modify cells to produce the channelrhodopsins to sensitize them to certain wavelengths of light. If you just stuff electrodes in brain tissue, it will stimulate the whole region, but if you use optogenetics, you can target a certain cell type by only sensitizing that particular set of cells. Some opsins respond to different frequencies, so you can do an experiment where, for instance, one population of cells is sensitized to one wavelength, and another population of cells is sensitized to another, and you can flip back and forth between stimulating one or the other just by changing what wavelength of light you're introducing into the tissue.
 
"Hey you know that thing we use to keep our food warm? Yeah what if we made flies cum to it?"

Total Jewish death
 
“Pleasurable” seems like a stretch. Couldn’t it just be an instinctual motivation?
I was going to say... not to be a big-brain mammalian supremacist, but, is a fly brain complex enough to even have a "pleasure" center?

Are we sure they're getting something from it? That you just haven't flipped a hard-wired switch and are now touting how pleasurable it must be for the faucet to dispense water? Because why else would it?
 
>Install red lights
>Install Kosher Switch
>undergo a little gene therapy
>now able to orgasm on shabbat without God caring


How are the Jews going to trick God next?
 
Back
Top Bottom