🐱 Santa's Husband

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http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/a13102731/santas-husband-book-war-on-christmas/

Daniel Kibblesmith, a writer on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, and Ashley Quach, a Los Angeles illustrator, have teamed up for a book that seems to challenge every conservative Christian tale about Christmas with a simple premise: In their story, Santa Claus is black and gay.

Their all-ages book, Santa's Husband, seems ready-made to test O'Reilly's arteries, but they see it as a joyful response to all the rage and resentment. It's a playful nudge towards the realization that everyone already has their own Christmas traditions, that we're all continually adding more, and that what Santa Claus looks like might just be the least important thing of all. I jumped on the phone with both Kibblesmith and Quach to hear why.

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"Trolling" is probably the wrong word, but it does seem like you guys want to piss some people off. The conservative movement now is almost defined by trolling—did you want to troll back?

AQ: If it is trolling, it's definitely the cutest, sweetest, nicest trolling you've ever seen in your life. Daniel, what was that website you shared earlier?

DK: Oh, we were on The Daily Stormer today.

AQ: Right. I had never heard of that before.

DK: You live a blessed life.

AQ: But I'm learning a lot this week. The thing that was really funny to me was that they ran the story about us, and they were talking about us filling Christmas with toxic trash. But they ran it with the cutest picture that I've drawn, of Santa up on one toe, holding a mistletoe over his husband's head. And it's adorable. I'm like, do you know what you're doing? Or is it a white flag, is someone in the editorial department trapped, and we've got to get them out?


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That's why I was reluctant to use the term "troll," because there seems to be a genuine worldview behind it. When Santa's feeding Rudolph out of a "Pole Foods" bag, it seems like an affirmation of the liberal coastal way of life, which has faced some backlash recently.

DK: I think it just went hand-in-hand with the tone we chose. When the whole premise of the book is, here's a nontraditional look at a traditional figure, in order to inject a little satire into the book—a few actual jokes above and beyond its base premise—I think that things like that were less a conscious defense...in the sense of quote-unquote "coastal elites" and our depraved lifestyle, and more just a natural extension of what we were writing about and the people we figured we were writing it for. I think it was a lot more basic than that. They just struck us as funny in-jokes that fit our cliché of a modern interracial gay couple.

Is this a children's book? Is it a parody for adults?

DK: We call it "an all-ages book." There are parents who have given it to their kids, or are reading it with their kids. Because at the end of the day, it's really just equitable to any other introductory book about Santa Claus that you could give to a five-year-old. It's just in our version, Santa Claus is black and married to a man.
 
Years ago, kids would've found this funny. Now they think it's boring thanks to all that pandering.

Why not just make Santa trans too? We're probably not that far off from trans being boring now. It's reaching max saturation and will be as mundane as gay soon.
 
Coca-Cola basically created the modern version of Santa Clause so who cares what someone else does with the reboot. This’ll probably be like the Starbucks Christmas cup thing where they make it out to be this huge outrage when in reality most people don’t care.
Pretty much this.

The joke about white santa being the real santa's husband is kinda funny tbh, but I don't see a reason to blow a fuse over what is essentially the mascot of blind consumerism.
 
I'm not gonna read BBC fanfiction to children. Looking forward to watching the sales on this go nowhere.
 
Santa (or Saint Nicholas) is Turkish anyway if I remember rightly, so that failed miserably. Do something on Black Peter or The Krampus, that would be infinitely more interesting

0/10 No effort, shit tier trolling/'satire'. Fucking Seth MacFarlane does Christmas satire better.
I thought he was Greek in origin?

Don't tell them about the Krampus. Chances are they'd try and apropriate it for themselves and claim he was a bi-enby-greysexual-ace polyamourus translesbian that is actually in a gay relationship with one of the 5NAF robots.
 
I thought he was Greek in origin?

Don't tell them about the Krampus. Chances are they'd try and apropriate it for themselves and claim he was a bi-enby-greysexual-ace polyamourus translesbian that is actually in a gay relationship with one of the 5NAF robots.

He was born and lived in what is now Turkey. But yes, at the time that area was mostly Greek.
 
I thought he was Greek in origin?

Don't tell them about the Krampus. Chances are they'd try and apropriate it for themselves and claim he was a bi-enby-greysexual-ace polyamourus translesbian that is actually in a gay relationship with one of the 5NAF robots.
They probably never heard of Zwarte Piet (who is similar to the Krampus..AND is black)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet
 
You're optimistic these people read anything other than Twitter, Tumblr and whatever their masters deem 'non problematic'

You're optimistic that Buzzfeed haven't done a top 10 on problematic Christmas characters (Number 6 will shock you!).
 
Coca-Cola basically created the modern version of Santa Clause so who cares what someone else does with the reboot. This’ll probably be like the Starbucks Christmas cup thing where they make it out to be this huge outrage when in reality most people don’t care.
Actually, it was Thomas Nast of Harper's Weekly fame, but The Coca-Cola Company certainly facilitated making his caricature widespread for years to come.

Saint Nicholas was born in Turkey but he was closer to a Greek than anything.

The modern idea of the horsefucking Turkroach didn’t come around until after the Byzantines started to decline.
He was, although a lot of Eastern Christian art depicts him with a relatively brown complexion, like many Greeks and Turks who look alike after generations of fucking each other and their neighbors.

Speaking of which, you don't even have to look very far to ship Santa with a black person. Dutch folklore shows Saint Nicholas with a companion/servant (equivalent to an elf) called Zwarte Piet as a blackamoor. Of course it's controversial, but I'm surprised the WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIET Afrocentrists aren't using it so much, considering their fantasy of Moors being black.
 
Speaking of which, you don't even have to look very far to ship Santa with a black person. Dutch folklore shows St. Nicholas with a companion/servant (equivalent to an elf) called Zwarte Piet as a blackamoor. Of course it's controversial, but I'm surprised the WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEIT Afrocentrist aren't using it so much, considering their fantasy about Moor being black.

One of Saint Nicholas' apparent miracles was freeing that guy from slavery too, no? Zwarte Piet stuck around in gratitude if I remember the legend correctly.
 
TFW a 30+ year old San Fran hipster loser is saying "in the future when I have kids"

Does he plan to have them at 40 or what

There are a lot of aging skinnyfat hipster women desperately clinging to immaturity who are going to be in for a really rude awakening when they hit 42 and say "teehee, I I'm finally done being a kid, so I'm ready to start trying for a family!" And their OBs look at them like they're absolute morons.

Complications during pregnancy start spiking at age 30, statistically. It's less of a slow increase and more a rapid exponential climb towards infertility or defective offspring.
Poor health is a complication multiplier too, and a lot of these types don't understand that eating a vegan locally sourced acai bowl (certified kosher for extra hipness points) once a month doesn't make up for the fact that they haven't had any vitamin D or healthy fats or micronutrients in nearly a decade.

I mean it's possible to have kids when you're older, but the number of question marks start piling up. And adoption might seem like a fine substitution in their minds right now, but we'll see what they actually say when their biological clock is blaring the "last chance, dummy" alarm and their low testosterone man bun wearing boyfriends are still saying they're not sure they're ready to start a family.

Pretty much this.

The joke about white santa being the real santa's husband is kinda funny tbh, but I don't see a reason to blow a fuse over what is essentially the mascot of blind consumerism.

I think it's less about being offended that they're messing with Santa, because what adult can really pretend to care? It's more just that any transparent agenda pushing is obnoxious and off putting no matter what the agenda is.
 
There are a lot of aging skinnyfat hipster women desperately clinging to immaturity who are going to be in for a really rude awakening when they hit 42 and say "teehee, I I'm finally done being a kid, so I'm ready to start trying for a family!" And their OBs look at them like they're absolute morons.

Complications during pregnancy start spiking at age 30, statistically. It's less of a slow increase and more a rapid exponential climb towards infertility or defective offspring.
Poor health is a complication multiplier too, and a lot of these types don't understand that eating a vegan locally sourced acai bowl (certified kosher for extra hipness points) once a month doesn't make up for the fact that they haven't had any vitamin D or healthy fats or micronutrients in nearly a decade.

I mean it's possible to have kids when you're older, but the number of question marks start piling up. And adoption might seem like a fine substitution in their minds right now, but we'll see what they actually say when their biological clock is blaring the "last chance, dummy" alarm and their low testosterone man bun wearing boyfriends are still saying they're not sure they're ready to start a family.
It should be illegal to have kids over forty.
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