Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

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Star Platinum said:
I agree that it's impossible to fully know which explanation for the condemnation is true. But since my own personal "best guess"/instinct is to deny religious revelation in general, I expect our opinions on the subject are always going to be irreconcilable.
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Sure. Won't try to persuade you otherwise ITT but there are some very good arguments out there in favor of revelation if you're ever curious.
 
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Sperg wants to kill herself over discord e-tranny drama. :lossmanjack:
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Does anyone know why they talk like this? Did all the failed suicide attempts that they encourage on their site give them permanent brain damage or something?
 
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After watching the Joe Winko suicide video I can only assume he got the idea of using Sodium Nitrite from SS. I did a little research on how it actually kills you and it sounds like one of the most painful experiences you can put yourself through. Basically what it does is it oxidizes the iron in your blood into a form that isn't capable of carrying oxygen. Your heart is still pumping blood throughout your body but everything starts dying -slowly- due to hypoxia (tissues being starved of oxygen).
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Source: https://casereports.bmj.com/content/15/12/e252954

I also found a paper that researched the rise of SN discussion on SS. SN alone saw a huge rise in discussion in 2019.
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Source: https://mental.jmir.org/2024/1/e53730/

I can't help but feel like some sick fuckers started pushing this method of suicide to cause as much pain in someone's final moments as possible.
 
I can't imagine what anyone would have to gain from pushing it. Sounds a bit too pro-life to me to imagine you've got users sitting there in the dark willing others on to take it so they can get off on it or something. Not saying there's never been a predator on there as I know there have but I don't believe anyone pushes SN for that reason. But maybe I'm just naive, I dunno. When I first joined the site it was actually nembutal that was always being talked about but only since that stopped being available did people turn to SN as a poor second. Nembutal is definitely peaceful and painless. SN was always just a cheap and readily available (at the time) backup. If anyone says they're going to take SN on it's own and not do the proper protocol with the other drugs to minimise discomfort everyone would advise them against that.
 
Years ago I purchased SN because Nembutal was unobtainable. The 2022 Peaceful Pill handbook outlined the method, though now I'm unlikely to use this method.

The Stranger said:
I also found a paper that researched the rise of SN discussion on SS. SN alone saw a huge rise in discussion in 2019.
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The same handbook might explain that timeline:

"In 2019 the journal of the Dutch Medical Association, NTVG, published an editorial and articles on the use of these new lethal salts. The cover story was titled 'The Rise & Fall of Agent X'. Author, Stella Braam,"
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"A second article in the same edition (titled 'Auto-Intoxication with 'Suicide Powder') examined the use of sodium nitrite as a potential suicide agent. In this article it was claimed:

'the mechanism of death is suffocation, and because of the unbearable symptoms, sodium nitrite is an extremely unsuitable suicide agent'."
 
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Years ago I purchased SN because Nembutal was unobtainable. The 2022 Peaceful Pill handbook outlined the method, though now I'm unlikely to use this method.
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Yes it was the Exit International guy Philip Nitschke who first came up with it as a method for his over 50 userbase I believe.

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'the mechanism of death is suffocation, and because of the unbearable symptoms, sodium nitrite is an extremely unsuitable suicide agent'."
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Meh they can claim what they like, but where's the proof? I just wish people saying it's a horrifically painful method would back it up with something. It being considered a "humane" method to cull wild pigs (which was where Philip Nitschke got the idea I believe) and in the peaceful pill handbook doesn't track with it having "unbearable" symptoms. No journalist is ever going to write it's anything but terrible though I think that's obvious.
 
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Sperg wants to kill herself over discord e-tranny drama. :lossmanjack:
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Does anyone know why they talk like this? Did all the failed suicide attempts that they encourage on their site give them permanent brain damage or something?
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That image reads to me as “I’m a miserable faggot and everyone needs to know about my very self-centered, self-inflicted pain.”
 
The site continues to lose longtime moderators who seem to confess the site used to be better before it grew to be a larger community.

In my personal stance; I feel like the troon users have made it a melodramatic place, just like with every other corner of the internet where they cry and scream and make everything about them because someone called them a "him" today. Instead of the people who actually live horrendous lives with both mental and physical disabilities who post on SS - those people have my full sympathy and my heart goes out to people who actively feel like they must kill themselves just to escape the eternal Hell that is their horrible broken body.


Life is truly horrible to the wrong people
 
Incredibly based to defend a site like this, even if I do disagree with half the people and ideas on there. I think a lot of people forget that it's not really something you cure necessarily. A lot of people think that it'll just all fix itself and you'll be 'normal' again. Like yea I have more reasons to not kill myself, that doesn't mean the reasons I had to do it have suddenly gone away, that's the same as it always has been. Unless you take their lobotomy pills that make it so you can't think about anything which does technically stop you from thinking about killing yourself. Especially as it's basically impossible for any normal person to actually understand or support you more than just saying damn that shit must suck tier things. I'd rather just shit into a void than some professional therapist whatever, at least random internet people have a lower chance of being indian or middle aged white women.
 
We should totes break the entire internet and violate civil and human rights of everyone over the intentional misuse of pickling spices by individuals, bros.

You can OD on sodium nitrite from eating too much bacon or drinking too much wine that used it as a preservative. And I'm not even talking about where someone screwed up the measurements and used way more SN than is generally recognized as safe, but just people eating regular SN preserved food and drink in excess and I guess attributing any odd feelings they developed as being meat sweats or unpleasantly like being drunk and kept powering through.

Sodium nitrite works as a chemical asphixiant, which isn't necessarily as fun as simple physical asphixiants (e.g., inert gases) since they can interfere with CO2 transport.

This would not lead to feelings of suffocation, though, but probably feel more like acidosis.

You will probably not experience hypoxic euphoria, but also probably not have a "this will kill you and it will hurt the entire time you're dying" experience, either. You'll probably feel a little nauseous and generally uncomfortable, like exercising too hard on a hot day while already dehydrated, before losing consciousness due to hypoxia.

There are dozens of ways you could choose to poison yourself found at the nearest supermarket, with many of these substances, like sodium nitrite, in the grocery aisles. Where they belong.
 
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We should totes break the entire internet and violate civil and human rights of everyone over the intentional misuse of pickling spices by individuals, bros.
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I mean, this did happen in England. That's not sarcasm that's just the genuine beliefs of the retards we have in power. Do not doubt for a second that someone somewhere is trying to word out a law to ban this so they can appear to care about mental health all while the NHS remains nonfunctional from underfunding. This is the country that thought banning bright green knives would stop knife crime. They will always try to ban the specific method instead of giving a shit about the actual act itself or the causes of it.
 
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I mean, this did happen in England. That's not sarcasm that's just the genuine beliefs of the retards we have in power. Do not doubt for a second that someone somewhere is trying to word out a law to ban this so they can appear to care about mental health all while the NHS remains nonfunctional from underfunding. This is the country that thought banning bright green knives would stop knife crime. They will always try to ban the specific method instead of giving a shit about the actual act itself or the causes of it.
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It would be more accurate to say that the people in power benefit from the working class having as little recourse as possible and they use moral panic, such as this or child endangerment, as the tip of the spear to take actions that limit the rights and freedoms of the working class, such as repealing Section 230 or implementing mandatory identification checks.

You're operating under the assumption that the government wants what's best for you and is merely incompetent and misguided, which is... well, optimistic.
 
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