Sanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.

[IWantItAll]

@Point The preferred method back when I joined was nembutal. Now your average member has no way to get hold of that anymore. SN was always the second best alternative just because it's super cheap and easy to get-at least it was. Also the fact there doesn't really seem to be lasting damage after an attempt.

Yep it's 8 hours ideally if you follow the protocol. And you'd want antiemetics, betablockers and benzos to make it as comfortable as possible. I don't think anyone can survive the amount you're supposed to take if you're not found in time. Problem is people freak out and call for help, or do an impulsive attempt where family/friends find them. That's almost always the reason an attempt fails. I guess it's just easier to just buy something off the net that's legal than try and get heroin or something.

Having long-term members makes sense. I mean, if you're predisposed to depression but can't bring yourself to actually ctb then it's just a good place to get support. The pro-lifers will think they've all got bad intentions probably but there isn't a magic cure for depression. It's a long-term issue for a lot of people. And the ones against the site will never accept it but it's been said countless times by members that they're still here because of the site and just having a place to vent without being censored.

 

[AnOminous]

Problem is people freak out and call for help, or do an impulsive attempt where family/friends find them.

That's actually the only positive thing I have to say about the SN method. Just impulsively jumping in front of a train or off a building actually will just kill you.

At least the SN method has multiple points where you can just back out of it if, upon actually looking at the prospect of being ACTUALLY dead, you change your mind and decide not to.

Otherwise, though, it's just absolute shit. Soft hanging has it totally beat.

 

[dick brain]

Since we're talking about it, as somebody who doesn't know shit about opiates: why wouldn't that be a much preferable way to go? Like, isn't an opiate OD basically just taking a kick ass nap while your heart/lungs stop?

Like, hypothetically speaking, if I was a paranoid retard who wanted to have a suicide pill on hand at all times, what makes a super concentrated dose of oxycodone a bad choice, aside from legality?

 

[AnOminous]

Like, hypothetically speaking, if I was a paranoid retard who wanted to have a suicide pill on hand at all times, what makes a super concentrated dose of oxycodone a bad choice, aside from legality?

Pills aren't really reliable, nor is OD in general. Even under controlled settings like medically supervised capital punishment, people can have unpredictable reactions to it. If you don't take enough, it won't work, and if you take too much, you can vomit it up immediately with no result. You can linger on for hours, get found and "saved," but be a gibbering vegetable for life from brain damage.

This is true about most non-instant methods. Anything with a time window where the process can be interrupted carries a risk of non-death or worse-than-death results. Soft hanging is probably the most reliable of such methods as it can be done anywhere and merely requires a few minutes.

 

[dick brain]

Pills aren't really reliable, nor is OD in general. Even under controlled settings like medically supervised capital punishment, people can have unpredictable reactions to it. If you don't take enough, it won't work, and if you take too much, you can vomit it up immediately with no result. You can linger on for hours, get found and "saved," but be a gibbering vegetable for life from brain damage.

This is true about most non-instant methods. Anything with a time window where the process can be interrupted carries a risk of non-death or worse-than-death results. Soft hanging is probably the most reliable of such methods as it can be done anywhere and merely requires a few minutes.

I mean, I own guns. But I've seen gunshot suicides where people rattle and writhe for 10+ minutes after the fact, and slow hangings where people change their mind but don't have the physical strength to back out. I always think about a story from some NPR fag who jumped off a bridge and immediately regretted it the instant he cleared the railing.

Maybe Courtney Love had the right idea.

 

[AnOminous]

I mean, I own guns. But I've seen gunshot suicides where people rattle and writhe for 10+ minutes after the fact, and slow hangings where people change their mind but don't have the physical strength to back out.

Soft hanging, done correctly, causes unconsciousness in seconds. As for guns, it's all about hitting the brainstem. Almost anything else is conceivably "survivable," although the state you survive in could be dire. Even if you are successful and unconscious instantly, there can still be fairly lengthy postmortem spasms, agonal breathing, and shit like that.

I think people should prefer methods that take some actual prep to get right, because I think most of the time, they'll change their minds in the middle. It's way too easy just to shoot yourself and it could very well be on an impulse that would have passed if not acted on.

 

[scatterbrain]

Man, this website. During my low times I used to be a semi-frequent member of it, because I genuinely understood the point of the "bus stop" just being a place to chill with people at the same low point as you, but not actually "board the bus" (kill yourself). Also just wanted to find a method. Places like this genuinely need to exist, because while there are better alternatives, not everyone has access to them. And a lot of other ~mental health~ groups don't let you express your struggles to the full extent without threatening to call the cops on you.

However, I eventually realized how much the website is full of total fucking losers when I came across this thread asking users if they believe children should have the "right" to kill themselves if their life truly sucked. Many of the users agreed that they should, suggesting that if a child was being abused, they should be given the option to kill themselves, because it would be more cruel to force them to live that life even if they were to escape that abusive household. Children being significantly more immature didn't matter because "well, it's not like all adults are mature either.." Just made me MATI. I've met so many people who are glad they didn't kill themselves when they were younger, and I don't want that kind of thing to be taken away from anyone.

Not to mention the anti-natalist people who believe giving birth to children is abuse because the child didn't consent to being born into the world lmao.

 

[AnOminous]

And a lot of other ~mental health~ groups don't let you express your struggles to the full extent without threatening to call the cops on you.

And that is so ridiculously perverse. These idiots claim they want to discourage people from suicide. But if you call them and say "hey I'm thinking of suicide can you help me" they call the fucking cops on you.

What a great incentive.

And now they want to shut down any opportunity for people in this situation even just to talk to each other about the profoundly sad situation they're in.

NOOOOO you can't just talk to each other, you need Nurse Ratchet.

 

[scatterbrain]

And that is so ridiculously perverse. These idiots claim they want to discourage people from suicide. But if you call them and say "hey I'm thinking of suicide can you help me" they call the fucking cops on you.

What a great incentive.

And now they want to shut down any opportunity for people in this situation even just to talk to each other about the profoundly sad situation they're in.

NOOOOO you can't just talk to each other, you need Nurse Ratchet.

Yup. This is why a lot of kids avoid getting help, because school counselors are ~obligated~ to call your parents or the police if you dare to do as little as imply you struggle with suicidal ideation. Therapists are the same way. Parents are of no help more often than not, and psych wards can be abusive as hell.

With no where else to go, people far down deep will turn to the worst places of them all- such as those com servers that exploit them.

I used to join suicide "neutral" Discord servers, but Discord has been cracking down on them so much, and the anti-suicide servers are too censorship heavy (not entirely their fault, considering how trigger happy Discord is with terminating them). They think they're helping, but all they're doing is making com servers more and more successful- because this is exactly what predators want; they want kids no have no other choice.. and all Discord is doing is cutting down those choices.

 

[Markass the Worst]

SaSu has been mentioned in the 4chan / Kiwi Farms v. Ofcom lawsuit.

 

[x3firehexx]

Whats with SS'rs actively simping for SN anyways? I mean, like, is it really that much easier than tying a noose or stabbing yourself? I mean, like, even if you don't immediately die you'll eventually bleed out, no? And the noose is a immediate death, and if not that than 3 minutes at worst? Like, hello? Jumping off places also a instant option (just do it face first) and so is loading a backpack with bricks and jumping in a remote lake. I don't get it

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

and so is loading a backpack with bricks and jumping in a remote lake. I don't get it

This one sentence shows how little you know about suicide methods considering you just suggested the absolute worst most painful way to kill yourself (drowning) is a feasible option to just swallowing poison and waiting. You have to be shitting me

 

[AnOminous]

This one sentence shows how little you know about suicide methods considering you just suggested the absolute worst most painful way to kill yourself (drowning) is a feasible option to just swallowing poison and waiting. You have to be shitting me

But that's wrong. The SN method is not simple in the least. You do not simply consume poison and then painlessly die. It requires titrating up the level of the poison because if you try to take the entire fatal dose all at once, you'll just puke it up, probably horribly painfully. And even if you attempt massively overdosing with SN, you will just VIOLENTLY puke it up, for days, incredibly painfully.

The recommended method on the site, which will actually kill you, requires a combination of anti-emetics and the aforementioned SN, and you have to work up somewhat slowly to the point where you're at the edge of death, then finally finish it to the point that you will have absorbed the guaranteed lethal dose and not even convulsive vomiting or a stomach pump will "save" you.

The only good thing I can say about this method is anyone who actually carries it out really intended to do so. There are multiple points in the process where you can back out.

(Also the put a bunch of rocks in your clothes and walk into a river method worked for Virginia Woolf, depending on your personal value for "working.")

 

[Molesting the Decapitated]

But that's wrong. The SN method is not simple in the least. You do not simply consume poison and then painlessly die. It requires titrating up the level of the poison because if you try to take the entire fatal dose all at once, you'll just puke it up, probably horribly painfully. And even if you attempt massively overdosing with SN, you will just VIOLENTLY puke it up, for days, incredibly painfully.

The recommended method on the site, which will actually kill you, requires a combination of anti-emetics and the aforementioned SN, and you have to work up somewhat slowly to the point where you're at the edge of death, then finally finish it to the point that you will have absorbed the guaranteed lethal dose and not even convulsive vomiting or a stomach pump will "save" you.

The only good thing I can say about this method is anyone who actually carries it out really intended to do so. There are multiple points in the process where you can back out.

(Also the put a bunch of rocks in your clothes and walk into a river method worked for Virginia Woolf, depending on your personal value for "working.")

What ever the case, drowning is the absolute most retarded way to kill yourself. Unless you just want to suffer really badly and your end goal is to have the most painful death possible . My comment wasn't about discussing how readily available using SN to end your life is, I was only talking about how only an idiot thinks drowning is effective and a good idea

 

[x3firehexx]

What ever the case, drowning is the absolute most retarded way to kill yourself. Unless you just want to suffer really badly and your end goal is to have the most painful death possible . My comment wasn't about discussing how readily available using SN to end your life is, I was only talking about how only an idiot thinks drowning is effective and a good idea


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"Agony"

By which metric?? What does "Agony" even mean? How much is 79?? How much is 5.5?? Because from what i remember "Agony" isn't a unit in neither the SI or imperial system, or, actually any system whatsoever. How do you even measure this?. Sure, this does take time into account, but the time is overblown. Chances are, you'd be unconscious a minute in at most if you do end up drowning. And if you fall into a river from a tall place, e.g. a bridge, head first, the impact into the water would do you in before the drowning. Why do you think so many bridge jumpers die, instead of swimming out of the water? Why do you think grant fossgate 41% himself successfully even tough there was water below the bridge?

Also, id rather take the drowning than this excessively overcomplicated multi day regiment you have to do to not end up with a painful death/ just pain and no death with SN. Actually, anything os preferable to SN, simply because it doesn't take a mutli day strict regiment and diet, and, like, there's no guarantee you'll actually pull it iff sucessfully

 

[AnOminous]

What ever the case, drowning is the absolute most retarded way to kill yourself. Unless you just want to suffer really badly and your end goal is to have the most painful death possible .

Personally I'd say self immolation but hey, no disputing taste.

 

[IWantItAll]

But that's wrong. The SN method is not simple in the least. You do not simply consume poison and then painlessly die. It requires titrating up the level of the poison because if you try to take the entire fatal dose all at once, you'll just puke it up, probably horribly painfully. And even if you attempt massively overdosing with SN, you will just VIOLENTLY puke it up, for days, incredibly painfully.

The recommended method on the site, which will actually kill you, requires a combination of anti-emetics and the aforementioned SN, and you have to work up somewhat slowly to the point where you're at the edge of death, then finally finish it to the point that you will have absorbed the guaranteed lethal dose and not even convulsive vomiting or a stomach pump will "save" you.

The only good thing I can say about this method is anyone who actually carries it out really intended to do so. There are multiple points in the process where you can back out.

(Also the put a bunch of rocks in your clothes and walk into a river method worked for Virginia Woolf, depending on your personal value for "working.")

I guess that's why it's not recommended to go over the optimal dose. I have heard people say they had a pretty bad headache for a day or two following an attempt, not sure if the vomiting continues past a few hours. You're encouraged to go to the hospital if you think it's going to be a failed attempt (e.g if you puke most of the first cup up and don't have a second) and they give you the antidote. Doesn't sound that pleasant, but probably beats a lot of other failed methods. Then you just have to worry about getting put in the psych ward! I'd be most scared of the shortness of breath, but not everyone gets that. And the fast heartrate, that's gonna be what makes people panic I think. But something that sounds like at worst a bad bout of flu is pretty appealing to a lot of people. Especially given the lack of alternatives.

 

[LiquidKid]

After the joe winko thing, I ended up refinding this thread.

I visited this site like 3 ish years ago after I got a morbid curiosity about suicide. Not ever suicidal myself, my life my be fucked but it’s my fucked life and I’m not letting anyone steal that from me, but still curious about the way it worked and the various methods.

I came away with two main thoughts.

1-the human body is surprisingly difficult to kill, and in a way that resilience and the fact that so many attempts fail is oddly comforting.

2-SS’s push of sodium nitrite makes my blood boil. Over and over again those users claim “it’s painless.” “You just call asleep” “you don’t feel anything but nausea and a headache” and it’s all bullshit, it’s a brutal way to kill yourself and you’re literally causing suffocation + incontinence + vomiting + potential seizures and cardiac arrest. But no “you just get loopy and pass out” is the prevailing gospel there. I genuinely can’t fathom how many people suffered horrific deaths because of that misinformation.
But even worse than that, there was the master list of the forum members they confirmed to have died from it, and that’s where I truly got angry. There was one user in particular who did not use it, but had been a personal witness to live streams of more than one person dying from it, and more than one instance of confirmed deaths thanking them. This user quite literally lead people directly to their deaths and acted as a willing witness to at least two. I’m sorry, but there’s a special place in hell for someone like that. That revelation alone made me extremely MATI.

 

[Hypercop]

I've met so many people who are glad they didn't kill themselves when they were younger, and I don't want that kind of thing to be taken away from anyone.

In general, this idea that you should kill yourself once the pleasure is outweighed by pain rubs me the wrong way. Pretty much every religion extols the virtue of suffering, and they state in unison that suicide is misguided. You might not be a spiritual person, but when humanity's collective wisdom dating back thousands of years all universally declares something is bad, there's probably something to that. Not only that, but the human body clearly doesn't want to die even if the person piloting it does and will fight to stay alive. So it's betraying your own body. And lastly, I think most people don't try that hard to fix their lives. I guess you could call it a hunch, but I almost have a feeling that fate or destiny exists, that we're put on this earth to do a specific thing, and that if we fail to accomplish this thing then the process simply repeats until we fulfill our destiny. It's completely unscientific and impossible to prove, but I feel that way strongly sometimes. Who here hasn't felt that way about suicide sometimes, that it's like closing the book on a story before it actually ends?

 

[Bioniclelover]

In general, this idea that you should kill yourself once the pleasure is outweighed by pain rubs me the wrong way. Pretty much every religion extols the virtue of suffering, and they state in unison that suicide is misguided. You might not be a spiritual person, but when humanity's collective wisdom dating back thousands of years all universally declares something is bad, there's probably something to that. Not only that, but the human body clearly doesn't want to die even if the person piloting it does and will fight to stay alive. So it's betraying your own body. And lastly, I think most people don't try that hard to fix their lives. I guess you could call it a hunch, but I almost have a feeling that fate or destiny exists, that we're put on this earth to do a specific thing, and that if we fail to accomplish this thing then the process simply repeats until we fulfill our destiny. It's completely unscientific and impossible to prove, but I feel that way strongly sometimes. Who here hasn't felt that way about suicide sometimes, that it's like closing the book on a story before it actually ends?

It's always easy to give lectures on what other people should do if you are not in their skin.
Suicide had been a thing for as long humanity exists and there will always be people who kill themselves. Maybe it's as simple as genetical predisposition for it.

P.S. Suicide is actually considered a honorable way of death in many religions and philosophies, so your claim is incorrect. You can check out Sallekhana practice in Jainism.