Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

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Otis Mallebrok said:
I think the world building is excellent
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I agree. There are multiple types of worldbuilding. There's the lore-heavy kind that prioritizes consistency and depth, and there's the kind that prioritizes atmosphere and emotional tone over strict internal logic. It's more challenging than it seems to create a world millions of children wish they could live in. If there were another setting like Hogwarts in fiction, it wouldn't make trannies so mad that they can't live there forever in their minds. Nothing else scratches that itch, no matter how hard they try.
 
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Shakira Flabbergasted said:
There are multiple types of worldbuilding. There's the lore-heavy kind that prioritizes consistency and depth, and there's the kind that prioritizes atmosphere and emotional tone over strict internal logic
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Agreed, not every book needs to iron out every wrinkle of how a world operates, and kids have fun using their imagination to fill in the gaps anyway. It's fine if the Harry Potter style world isn't your thing, but criticising world building in fantasy and sci fi novels happens so often, I start to wonder if some of the critics don't like these genres at all, and aren't able to suspend their disbelief (except to pretend men are women).
 
Shakira Flabbergasted said:
It's more challenging than it seems to create a world millions of children wish they could live in.
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It truly is. Poor Rick Riodan is still desperately trying to make it happen.

Would said:
Neville is written as a loser and meek introvert in books 1-4. I can see the premise but Neville redeems himself a lot in books 5-6 and has the biggest balls in Gryffindor by book 7.
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I never really agreed with that. Neville to me was written like a regular eleven year old child. He's forgetful, kind of awkward, afraid of the mean teacher, and gets yelled at by his grandma. It's really that Harry is just built fucking different.

holyhandgrenade said:
No wonder the kid was having fucking difficulty with performance anxiety he came from a long line of pure bred fucking champs.
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Kind of hard not to have anxiety. When the only thing your family wants is for you to bring justice to dark wizards during peace time. As soon as he starts cracking skulls all his problems resolve themselves!
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
I prefer Tamora Pierce.

JK does not produce bad stuff by any stretch of the imagination. But it's modern day so that always limits it.
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The sometimes uncomfortable juxtaposition between the ordinary and the extraordinary, and the fact that magic can be found in both, is the foundation of the series. Rather than being a limitation, it's one of its core strengths. It does occasionally create plot holes that have to be covered by weird ass explanations, but kids want to believe in it the same way they want to believe in Santa or Neverland or the Cottingley fairies. Finding the magical in the everyday is the essence of childhood.

It's understandable that it won't land for some people, however, especially if you prefer pure fantasy. People differ in what kind of escapism they prefer. I read the Song of the Lioness series as an 11-year-old and was outraged and disgusted because it had sex in it. To each their own.
 
I'm really bummed that it looks like Rowling is taking a more hands off approach to the series, possibly due to all the blowback she's been getting. Even though she's a libtard in most ways I get the feeling the casting and even some of the questionable stylistic choices or lack thereof they're making could be improved if she really had balls to stand up to HBO and threw her weight around. Its like the cursed child which I refuse to believe she had much involvement in. Plus getting back into the creative space would be a nice change of pace to just fighting social media wars all the time.
 
WaltherPPGAY said:
There is a difference between worldbuilding and setting.

The setting is beloved and the worldbuilding is ignored, at best. As evidence, all the successful spin-off media revolves around Hogwarts and all the unsuccessful spin-offs try to branch out from it.
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Okay, go fix troonipedia.
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WaltherPPGAY said:
There is a difference between worldbuilding and setting.
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I think that is splitting hairs. Its not easy to make children read 500 page books, and Rowling has been more successful than anyone else. I have seen it with my own children, they just get sucked into the world of Harry Potter. It really is magical.

Thats she later became Queen giga-TERF is just the icing on the cake. If you ever read this thread, Mrs. Rowling, know that you are an inspiration !!
 
I think that is splitting hairs. Its not easy to make children read 500 page books, and Rowling has been more successful than anyone else. I have seen it with my own children, they just get sucked into the world of Harry Potter. It really is magical.

Thats she later became Queen giga-TERF is just the icing on the cake. If you ever read this thread, Mrs. Rowling, know that you are an inspiration !!
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That’s all I’m saying, semantics. Tired of the “it’s not that good” from troons and such, like it didn’t take over the damn world and is still going strong despite all efforts to destroy it. I don’t know if it’s jealousy or what but it’s weird.
 
Dolly Brooks said:
That’s all I’m saying, semantics. Tired of the “it’s not that good” from troons and such, like it didn’t take over the damn world and is still going strong despite all efforts to destroy it. I don’t know if it’s jealousy or what but it’s weird.
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Her success and their past love of the franchise is a betrayal to one of the holy tenets of Media Literacy™. That all good art is created by the left and all bad art is made by the right. Since Rowling revealed herself to be MegaHitler by rejecting troondick, they feel tricked and are now overcompensating. Every aspect of her work HAS TO be complete and irredeemable shit on all levels.
 
grump said:
I'm really bummed that it looks like Rowling is taking a more hands off approach to the series, possibly due to all the blowback she's been getting. Even though she's a libtard in most ways I get the feeling the casting and even some of the questionable stylistic choices or lack thereof they're making could be improved if she really had balls to stand up to HBO and threw her weight around. Its like the cursed child which I refuse to believe she had much involvement in. Plus getting back into the creative space would be a nice change of pace to just fighting social media wars all the time.
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I think she's just moved on creatively. She seems more focused on finishing the Cormoran Strike series, which will never be the cultural juggernaut that Harry Potter has become (but what is?), but is almost more ambitious than Harry Potter in terms of character development and byzantine plotting. I think she's probably really enjoying writing books for adults without any pressure to please a rabidly autistic fandom or sell millions of copies (I mean, they're still bestsellers, but even if they weren't she was already a gazillionaire).
 
Simpers said:
That said, the first 3-4 books are pretty fluffy and not very well-written. I have always appreciated this because I happened to be at the age when I was able to read the books as they came out, and they grew in complexity with me.
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That's I think the most brilliant feature of the entire series: they are made to be read one per year at the reading level of that child. I read them as adults, and like you didn't so much like the first three books until I was told they were meant to be read by smart 7, 8, and 9 year olds. And by the time we get to the end, they are for smart 13 year olds, and she covers some pretty heavy stuff. I thought that was great.
 
grump said:
I'm really bummed that it looks like Rowling is taking a more hands off approach to the series,
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I was hoping that she'd persuade HBO to make Voldermort a trannie.

I do seem to remember Alan Rickman wearing an ugly flowery dress in one of the films and being g described as "ridiculous", which is even funnier now than it was then.
 
Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
I think Hermione is a really good example of when an author successfully avoids writing a Mary Sue.
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Then the screenwriters went and made her one. JKR might not be the greatest writer of all time but she's underappreciated for being better than most of the ones working in Holyweird. They always want more chick writers. She's be a gang changing improvement over pretty much any other major Holyweird female writer I can think of. Not to mention plenty of the male ones.
 
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