Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

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Aurors aren’t really wizard cops though, are they? They don’t deal with general regulations, they go after dark wizards. They’re more like the wizard FBI. They bust the wizard equivalent of BTK, which is why trannies don’t like it.
 
nikma said:
Where you find these people in real life? I never thought they actually existed
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TBH it's the first time it happened to me. In her defense (?) she's a massive bleeding heart normie so she's sensitive to the "poor little genocided twans UwU".
What I understand of this is that even when normal people do the "JK is an evil bitch" they still consume her products so still an L for the spinny-pissy crew kek
 
Jhonson the Two said:
In her defense (?) she's a massive bleeding heart normie so she's sensitive to the "poor little genocided twans UwU".
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Suicidal empathy. It's the same non-logic used by pitbull mommies. "Oh, everyone hates this dog breed, that must mean they're persecuted and need my protection!" Or maybe everyone hates them because they chew kids' faces off, Cindy.
 
kazuhiro said:
John Lithgow now says he thought about quitting the new HP over the backlash he got.
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Gondolindrim said:
If you show these people they can get actors to quit the show if they cry loud enough or make enough threats, then this embarassing period in history will never end.
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He wasn't going to quit shit. He's just saying that to keep his good boy points.
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The most you could accuse Harry Potter of is being classist. Like yeah the death eaters are bad nobles but all the heroes except Hermione Granger come from old and storied houses. Even then Hermione is the daughter of wealthy dentists.
 
When will it begin? said:
The most you could accuse Harry Potter of is being classist. Like yeah the death eaters are bad nobles but all the heroes except Hermione Granger come from old and storied houses. Even then Hermione is the daughter of wealthy dentists.
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That's nearly a built in property of good fictional characters rather than classism. Unless the point of a character is that he or she comes from poverty then it is easier to make the back story of the character more interesting if he or she comes from wealth or fame of some sort.
 
Orange Squash said:
That's nearly a built in property of good fictional characters rather than classism. Unless the point of a character is that he or she comes from poverty then it is easier to make the back story of the character more interesting if he or she comes from wealth or fame of some sort.
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Oh I completely agree. I was just try to say if you were being honest that's the only "-ist" you could hit Harry Potter with.
 
Hyperborean said:
"Homophobic"? She has gay characters in her books. JK Rowling only hates trannies.
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They decided she is homophobic because she never expressly said that Dumbledore is a homosexual man until after the publication of the last book.

The two reasons this is dumb as fuck in my opinion is firstly, what has a headteacher’s sexuality got to do with what is primarily a book series about school children?

The second is that in the period she wrote most of the books, a lot of gays were making offended noises about when homosexuals were depicted in media, they were usually depicted with their homosexuality being the most defining characteristic about them.

Dumbledore was a talented wizard, a respected headmaster and an active participant in the fight against wizard fascism or supremacy.
Being a big old poof was just secondary, which back then was considered a good depiction because homos were more about acceptance and normalization of gay people in society.

These days, because he wasn’t mincing around in a tinsel covered robe and openly flirting with Harry and Ron, the standard is that he must have been violently oppressed by evil cis straight society into the closet.

Which is fucking bullshit, as it’s clear from the context that his peers knew, but no one ever brought it up or criticized him for it because it wasn’t relevant.
 
FinnSven said:
The second is that in the period she wrote most of the books, a lot of gays were making offended noises about when homosexuals were depicted in media, they were usually depicted with their homosexuality being the most defining characteristic about them.
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I think that there was even a British law at the time that made it illegal to depict homosexuality in children’s media. I might be misremembering though.
 
Surfin Terf said:
I think that there was even a British law at the time that made it illegal to depict homosexuality in children’s media. I might be misremembering though.
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That was definitely preventing depiction of homosexuality in educational materials, but I would have to check if that expressly extended to children’s literature.
Cartoons, children’s films, TV shows, comics, yes, I can see that even if it wasn’t illegal that the makers would err on the side of caution and avoid that subject as it was way more likely that parents would notice that kind of stuff and complain.

Even so, if one directly compares HP to equivalent literature and media, e.g. Jennings, The Bash Street Kids, Mr Chips, The worst witch, the sexuality of the teachers is never a concern.
Occasionally teachers will be depicted as being in a straight marriage, but A: the fucking majority of people are straight, B: the spouse character would just be a prop more or less, except in rare cases as I believe in Mr Chips, his wife is an influence on how he views corporal punishment in the school system.
Maybe, in the more mischievous examples, a teacher’s wife would be the target of a prank or similar related plot device but other than that, whether the teacher was gay or straight wasn’t especially important to the overall story.

Yes, I am well aware that British schoolkids would be fucking merciless to a teacher that was a known queen, but even in Jennings era that would have come off as more mean spirited than some forgivable boys will be boys hijinks.

I actually vaguely recall a Grange Hill (long running British children’s soap opera set in a school) storyline about a gay teacher which is ultimately resolved by the boys football team defending him from a rival school team during a match.
There was also a one sided gay love situation between two boys in Byker Grove,(similar idea to GH but set in a youth center rather than a school).
Both of these must have been in the 90s, and definitely predated Harry Potter, so maybe there had been some relaxation.
 
Do I think Rowling is a Homophobe? Hell No. Do I think Dumbledore was gay when she wrote those books? Also, a Hell No.

Basically, she threw the fags a bone after she wrote the books by saying well Dumbledore was a fag. Is it shocking to make him a fruit no its British academia of course there's a fag at the school teaching. It's like Hermione when making the movies Rowling was adamant that only UK actors play the parts, but when she did the play with adult Ron, Harry, and Hermione and they cast a black as the latter she was like "I never said Hermione was white".

Always remember Rowling is a huge lefty who virtue signaled out her ass for years to prove she was a good little lefty until they wanted to her to bend the knee to the troons and then she grew a fucking backbone.
 
LaughJoke2.0 said:
Do I think Rowling is a Homophobe? Hell No. Do I think Dumbledore was gay when she wrote those books? Also, a Hell No.

Basically, she threw the fags a bone after she wrote the books by saying well Dumbledore was a fag. Is it shocking to make him a fruit no its British academia of course there's a fag at the school teaching. It's like Hermione when making the movies Rowling was adamant that only UK actors play the parts, but when she did the play with adult Ron, Harry, and Hermione and they cast a black as the latter she was like "I never said Hermione was white".

Always remember Rowling is a huge lefty who virtue signaled out her ass for years to prove she was a good little lefty until they wanted to her to bend the knee to the troons and then she grew a fucking backbone.
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I agree that Dumbledore being gay was most likely a retcon for leftie brownie points. I don't think that was planned from the beginning. Either way, she did actually expand upon him being gay with a male lover in the Fantastic Beasts movies, so she still "gave him gay backstory", even if it was after the fact. Considering she wrote movies with a gay plotline, and has never said anything anti-gay, I doubt she is homophobic. The "Hermione could be black" thing was absolutely retarded though because she IS clearly white in the books.

I think troons see that she's anti-troon and then start accusing her of being every other type of -ist and -phobic too. I've seen troons call her racist because of things like Cho Chang's name (but imo, cut the white British woman some slack, she's not an expert in Asian culture). It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation because if she only had white characters (which would make sense since it's 90s BRITAIN), they'd call her racist, and if she includes nonwhite characters that aren't perfectly culturally accurate, then they'd still call her racist.
 
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The fact we have to know about the sexuality of a school director in a children's book series is already retarded.
 
Once again, this is the Rowling Derangement Syndrome thread, and there's always RDS retards sperging away.
Wether she retconned Dumbledore to be gay or not we will never know unless she tells it outright. But I read Deathly Hallows as a 13-year old. And even I thought that it might have been more than just an intense "friendship" with Grindelwald. It struck me as more of a wild, blinded infatuation, even though I wasn't sure of that interpretation. So the subtext that Dumbledore might have been gay was there, he was always a rather flamboyant man through all of the books. But as many of you have said, his sexuality isn't really relevant or necessary to discuss in the book series.

The stage play is another thing, it's quite common to cast without regards to skin colour depending on location of the stage play. You choose the actor who is best for the role. I think Rowlings comments in regards to black Hermione was that it doesn't really matter to the story since it's a stage play.
 
Orange Squash said:
That's nearly a built in property of good fictional characters rather than classism. Unless the point of a character is that he or she comes from poverty then it is easier to make the back story of the character more interesting if he or she comes from wealth or fame of some sort.
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And Ron’s family were meant to be the poor kids who never had new stuff, so it isn’t like they were all upper class anyway. She did a good job throwing in a bunch of different characters- as good a job as you need to when it’s supposed to be an entertaining adventure book and not a woke manifesto.
 
FinnSven said:
That was definitely preventing depiction of homosexuality in educational materials, but I would have to check if that expressly extended to children’s literature.
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The laws did extend to literature, and was persistant until 2003.
 
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