Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

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So out of curiosity. Who if any in the cast and crew actually had the stones to stand up for JKR and who at least didn't throw her under the bus? The only one who I remember being mentioned defending her was the Hagrid actor and I don't know if this remained constant.

Off the top of my head, Ralph Fiennes.

Ralph Fiennes defends JK Rowling saying abuse she receives is ‘disgusting’ (The Guardian, 25 October 2022)


. Fiennes said: “JK Rowling has written these great books about empowerment, about young children finding themselves as human beings. It’s about how you become a better, stronger, more morally centred human being. The verbal abuse directed at her is disgusting, it’s appalling.”

He added: “I mean, I can understand a viewpoint that might be angry at what she says about women. But it’s not some obscene, uber-right-wing fascist. It’s just a woman saying, ‘I’m a woman and I feel I’m a woman and I want to be able to say that I’m a woman.’ And I understand where she’s coming from. Even though I’m not a woman.”

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It doesn't say much for the acting profession that so few actors signed The September 2022 petition defending her, and none were from her films.
 
Thank god it isn't.

And I will do anything in my power to fuck Null's life if he ever dares to feature this thread.

I already said it once, this is one of the few threads that is still good on this site. The last thing we need are a bunch of A&N retards do take a giant dump of 525 pages of sheer retardadism here.
 
To be fair to her, Emma Watson talked about her recently (last week I believe); so JKR had every right to respond.

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Does she never consume liquids? She's only 35, her skin shouldn't look like that unless she's never tried drinking water before or maybe sleeps in a tanning bed every night. You can actually see the effect that purposefully holding her eyebrows in a pretentious way all day every day has had on her forehead. She is an example of smugness in human form - down to closing her eyes and smirking when she finishes a sentence. Creepy!
 
You can actually see the effect that purposefully holding her eyebrows in a pretentious way all day every day has had on her forehead. She is an example of smugness in human form - down to closing her eyes and smirking when she finishes a sentence. Creepy!
It's been a while since I've seen someone so smug and condescending that if caused permanent physical changes.

It's kinda sad what Hollywood and wokeism did to these kids. Radcliffe ended up getting naked on stage to do homoerotic plays about bestiality ("Equus") and Watson got casting couched by Weinstein.

I guess most of the rest falling into obscurity means they got off lightly.
 
Does she never consume liquids? She's only 35, her skin shouldn't look like that unless she's never tried drinking water before or maybe sleeps in a tanning bed every night.

She looks perfectly fine. It's normal to start getting a few wrinkles at 35. Botox and instagram filters are not reality for normal, well adjusted people
 
Setting aside the semantic debate - the nazis themselves believed transsexuals existed - they were a lot more nuanced about this than people like to believe. German transsexuals with the appropriate paperwork were allowed to remain as they were throughout the entire period of nazi rule. The Hitler government's issue with hirschfeld was his being jewish, rather than being a freaky sex doctor. At least one of his colleagues from the institute went on to perform similar experimental surgical research for the nazis.

I can’t be arsed to trawl for concrete evidence, but I am pretty sure another reason that Hirschfeld and his writings were targeted was because of the over permissive sexual culture of Berlin at the time.

The Nazis were openly against child prostitution and the public degeneracy that was known to occur there.
Whether or not high ranking Nazis indulged in a bit of sleaze too is irrelevant in this case. It was a public relations move as most ordinary people were unhappy about such outright exploitation and smut going on.
A rough modern equivalent is that most people know about the seedy side of Las Vegas or Amsterdam, but even if they don’t approve, they accept its existence, but if a politician was running on an arrest and outlaw the sleaziest parts of it ticket, that would win a good number of votes.
 
I don't quite share the joyful celebration of Rowling's rebuke.


It's not even fully accurate. Yes, Watson backstabbed her publicly repeatedly. Yes, transgender madness put women at risk in all sorts of places.

But the claim that Watson never experienced any of that danger? If money and status was a cushion against danger, then Rowling wasn't in any either. Watson was in Hollywood, she was still a teenager when she was photographed with Weinstein, with that deer in the headlight look. She endured all sort of lurid attention before she was 18 (it is close to child abuse to let your kids, particularly daughter star in something like this). Remember that Terry Crews was terrified of speaking out against certain hollywood producers and they molested him with impunity, it's not hard to imagine what kind of sway they have over a young actress.

Watson deserves Rowling's scorn, but Rowling had a hand in creating her, too. When she selected film producer to shoot a film about harry potter, she went with the one that elevated Hermione.

The film then elevated Hermione from one of the three, to being the girl boss. So you take a twelve year old girl, you have her play out being smarter and better than the people around her.

Rowling had some hand in making her a millionaire, but she also had a hand in turning her into a grade A cunt. It's true that the actress that played Luna wasn't by comparison, but she also wasn't tempted in the same way.

I've faced social scorn from time to time for defending Rowling. Now I'll happily take some for attacking this rebuke of hers. She is right to tell Watson off, but she isn't taking responsibility for her own role in it, and I don't think her attack on Watson as being so safe and having it easy is quite accurate.

Rowling could have said "you're a poopyhead" and people would have flocked to her support over her scorn towards Watson at this point and she's media aware enough to know that. She too could have picked up the phone, but preferred to burn Watson in public. She has that right and gets to bask in the easy win.

She knows it too, her message is carefully crafted to defend that she's taking a low blow.

I consider this response about on the level if she had just immediately forgiven Watson like a doormat. Well written. Poor character.

Now I'll go back into exile.
 
I think I posted it here before, but Rowling being a typical labour lefty EXCEPT when it comes to trannies is what makes her so infuriating to the cock-cutting loons. If she went full conservative no-migration, no LGBT, no taxes, they could just write her off as an old coot going full conservitard. Some crazy hag that believes rivers of blood will flow down the streets at any moment now.
But she's not. And they don't know how to handle it. If she was right wing they could just push her in the conservative nazi corner. But for a left winger the agreed upon plan is shaming and abuse until she sees the error of her ways and submits to the party line. But their typical strategies don't seem to work on her. And her continued existence threatens the narrative that every progressive loves the tranny cock. The longer she refuses to bend the knee, the bigger the chance some other progressives might just do the same, and reject trannies. You already see that happening in some democrat opinion pieces in America. They want to drop the idpol shit and focus on cost of living.

And either way, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. A left wing lady causes Total Troon Death, then I can only welcome that. I can understand some of you feel envious it isn't your preferred famous person/politician pulling the trigger, but I am more result oriented.
 
She looks perfectly fine. It's normal to start getting a few wrinkles at 35. Botox and instagram filters are not reality for normal, well adjusted people
No, I don't think so, Otis. I've never seen someone look like that at 35 unless they really don't take care of themselves or if they have some sort of hormonal or spiritual imbalance.
 
Setting aside the semantic debate - the nazis themselves believed transsexuals existed - they were a lot more nuanced about this than people like to believe. German transsexuals with the appropriate paperwork were allowed to remain as they were throughout the entire period of nazi rule. The Hitler government's issue with hirschfeld was his being jewish, rather than being a freaky sex doctor. At least one of his colleagues from the institute went on to perform similar experimental surgical research for the nazis.

Just to clarify a point, the modern category of transsexual or the idea of gender dysphoria did not exist at the time of Hirschfield. Hirschfeld classified everyone who wasn't heterosexual as a kind of "sexual intermediary" and that included homosexuals, bisexuals, "intersex" (meaning any DSD that caused ambiguity, they didn't have genetic testing so they didn't recognize things like Turner syndrome or Klinefelter's as related to sex determination systems), and transvestites (the term he coined), which included both people who simply wanted to dress as the opposite sex, and this is the group that contained people who desired transition.

Let's not romanticize Nazi book burnings too much. I realize that this is Kiwi farms so you'll get people who claim that Christianity has been corrupted since Paul, as incoherent a statement as that is, but worth remembering that the Nazi's also destroyed texts by Einstein, and authors like Hemingway. The burning of the books at the Institute for Sexual Science was just that start of a much broader purge of psychiatric literature. Its easy to be selective about things like this in hindsight, but sorry, from the destruction of the Mayan codexes to the Bonfire of the Vanities to Nazi Book burnings, the throughline is not measured careful purging of heinous material, its just zealotry and rage.

The term transexual is from the late 40s in the US by David O. Caldwell. The work of Harry Benjamin and Robert Stoller are what formulates the modern understanding of transsexualism, where you see the idea of desire to transition as linked to endocrinology, and the belief that the desire is so deep seated that treating them with things like HRT was justified. Stoller in particular is the one who argues for the idea of gender identity, though for him it wasn't some magical thing that came out of nowhere:

The sense of core gender identity...is derived from three sources: the anatomy and physiology of the genitalia; the attitudes of parents, siblings and peers toward the child's gender role; and a biological force that may more or less modify the attitudinal (environmental) forces."

He also argued for transition as a last resort solution to someone who was persistently unhappy and suicidal, but only as a last resort and only for men who "had been very feminine in childhood, had never lived acceptably in a masculine role, and who had not derived pleasure from their penis". This was born out of the fact that even at that time, he had met several men in California as patients that were suicidal due to their apparent desire to be a woman. Here he was noticing what Blanchard would categorize later, that at least one type of "transsexual" was just a psychologically damaged faggot, a male with very effeminate traits that gets punished for being insufficiently manly by their childhood social environment.

It's in the 60s period in California, not 1920s Berlin, that the modern idea of trans as an identity emerges.

Thought I think modern troondom does push to induce it in people, the erotic dislocation error that produces AGP occurs as an observable phenomenon occurs far before that, and the conception of turning effeminate men in to ersatz women occurs all over the world (this is basically what every third gender category in other cultures is: the 3 genders are Man, Woman, and Girly Man*, basically every time). It is specifically in the conflation of these two things, and the creation of the idea of gender identity as in independent variable that supposedly isn't linked to sexual desire at all, that you get the current insanity that lumps together megafaggots, straight fetishists AGPs, and a whole ton of damaged women (Pooners) and not-like-the-other-girls (Nonbinary). Its essentially a category error, and it allows one group (AGPs) to use the psychological damage of the others to push for access to women's spaces to fulfill their fetish, and convinces people that gender identity isn't linked to sexuality or childhood at all. Blanchard correctly defined the phenomenon we are observing, but his ideas made the sexual element for AGP clear, so at that point the whole thing breaks from any attempt at empiricism to go live in fantasy land, because that understanding pushed against the desires of the AGPs.

I am going to differ from a lot of people here in saying that I don't think Hirschfeld or any of the others were wrong to try and document and observe, even if his understanding was ultimately very flawed. For me, this desire to pinpoint the origin of troondom to some locus of thought is wrong headed to begin with. The trans movement as it exists today is an organic, iterative process that goes through several different channels, it is not some magical corruption that emerges at a single point in modernity. And Hirschfeld, Cauldwell, Benjamin and Stoller were all recording a real phenomenon, it was a recurring desire that they named and typified. It's specifically the break with a desire to explain things scientifically (the total rejection of Blanchard despite the fact the he got it basically right and more granular than anyone else), that you get modern troonacy. Very quickly the ideas are removed from the idea of a clinical desire to treat and are reformulated by trans people themselves as a set of ideas to justify enabling the desire, and pointing out that their self-conception does not map to observable patterns of behavior is treated as "transphobic". This is my diagnosis as the core issue with all this, a break from an empiricist, anthropological or even almost ethological approach to classifying these behaviors and desires externally by observers, towards something that is defined by the sufferers themselves. Very much an inmates running the asylum issue)

*And as an aside, eunuch cults are far older than the Skoptsy of Russia. The Galli who served as priests to Cybele being probably the best example, and it was a religion that spread from Anatolia to Rome and caused enough hubbub that people worried about dudes who suddenly got an urge to cut their dicks off and join a cult. But the Scythians seemed to have them as well, and there's the perpetual phenomenon of the beardless court eunuch across the ancient middle east.

ASIDE FROM THAT...

Emma Watson did prove to be the kind of opportunist I thought she was, but the act of looking at one bad picture and commenting about how terrible someone looks is very played out by now. Its stupid when people do it for men too, like every tired commentary on how old Trump looks. It's just an ad hominem, and while it certainly can be fun when doing it online, attributing it to some spiritual malaise is always dumb.

Here's a video of her at an NBA game this year where she looks perfectly normal. You'd think after so many years of troon practices people would learn that lighting and angle make a difference.

 
it starts off as a children's book and grows up to be a competent adult story. Rowling's takedown of Sturgeon by comparing her to twilight was hilarious.

its funny since emma watson's career flubbed with the beauty and the beast remake and she seemingly lives off the rowling royalties. that said, dont know too many people irl who care about these actors outside of the wizarding world.
In no fucking world is any harry potter book for adults. It's like trying to deeply analyze a Series of Unfortunate Events or something. The only reason that idea is even entertained is because the reading level, vocabulary, and just general maturity of adults has fallen off so drastically in the past 20 years. i remember some quirky libshit sperg trying to use harry potter as a literary reference in a college level class and getting supremely chewed out for it, so satisfying.
Child actors cast in things as zeitgeisty as HP should be banned from acting afterwards. Like the girl that played Laura Ingalls - just cut em off. Imagine your entire childhood being spent literally LARPing one specific character of one specific fandom. Then you're just yourself after it's all over. You didn't take any other roles during that time so you have zero range, all your fanmail is from greasy nerds calling you by the characters name, and you have 0 cool compared to the young celebs who got famous modeling or singing or doing actual adult roles. You're just some skinny, middest of the mid British chick. Who used to pretend to be a fucking wizard girl. So humiliating, no wonder she panders to troons and had to stoop to Weinstein.

also that clip of her talking about JK is horrifying. The way she speaks, calling her "Jo", the drawl and eye-closing smugness. This woman seems like an actual BPD basket case, a totally soulless vessel constantly acting and preying upon others perceptions of her.
 
So? She can make her point without pretending to have “lived in poverty” herself.
I thought you were a woman/older than 25 for some reason and probably understood the absolute shite spiral a face-punching husband can turn life into. Even if your parents aren't dead or lifelong welfare people, you can be broke as shit, unable to keep a paycheque because bro takes them right away, and trapped in his disgusting house because you won't leave without your children even if your dad pulls up outside with a suitcase. You get stuck married to a lunatic who's like three weight classes above you, you can easily wind up living like a slum kid. It's extremely gay and retarded.
Yeah, people forget that Watson was a doctor in The Second Anglo-Afghan War who suffered a shot to the shoulder by an Afghan sniper at the Battle of Maiwand, earning him an honorable discharge that would by fate put him in contact with Sherlocke Holmes.
I think it's a bit foolhardy to say that Watson hasn't had his share of hardships.
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Someone helpful upthread said they wrote him properly in the 2009 version! I am optimistic so no spoilers.
 
Pretty sure she was aware of this and never said she had it has bad as starving third worlders. But I find "poverty" a pretty neutral word that does not have to mean "complete destitute".

In her Harvard speech 2008 she said
"I was jobless, a lone parent, and as poor as it is possible to be in modern Britain, without being homeless."

This is middle class bullshit.

If you read accounts of that very short “poverty” era of her life, there are multiple friends who lent her money and helped her out, and the cafe she famously wrote in was owned by her sister’s husband. She had a sister and dad she chose not to lean on.

It’s middle class to have friends and family who can freely help you out like that. It’s social capital.

She also had her education and work history to fall back on. She held off her teacher training course to start her book, for which she would have received some kind of funding. That was her choice.

She’s poor-fishing for clout and because she’s ashamed of her class privilege.
 
Modern trannyism was invented by Magnus Hirschfeld, a jewish doctor in Weimar Germany who led an "Institute For Sexuality" that was burned down by the NS as well as his books. The fight (arguably, self-defense) against those degenerates didn't start with muh wokeism 15 years ago, it's much more ancient.
The nazis kept his sex-change stuff, though. They smashed all his shit because he was Jewish, nothing to do with troons. Erwin Gorbandt did more pioneering tranny "surgery" than Hirschfeld and basically would have replaced anything of Hirschfeld's that was "lost" (if any of Hirshfeld's tranny research had been lost, which it wasn't).
 
I thought you were a woman/older than 25 for some reason and probably understood the absolute shite spiral a face-punching husband can turn life into. Even if your parents aren't dead or lifelong welfare people, you can be broke as shit, unable to keep a paycheque because bro takes them right away, and trapped in his disgusting house because you won't leave without your children even if your dad pulls up outside with a suitcase. You get stuck married to a lunatic who's like three weight classes above you, you can easily wind up living like a slum kid. It's extremely gay and retarded.

That’s not what happened. Her claim of “poverty” was after she left her violent Portuguese husband and came back to the UK.
 
If you read accounts of that very short “poverty” era of her life, there are multiple friends who lent her money and helped her out, and the cafe she famously wrote in was owned by her sister’s husband. She had a sister and dad she chose not to lean on.

She’s poor-fishing for clout and because she’s ashamed of her class privilege.
Oh my god it's october and tourist season is OVER. Post angry trannies or gtfo. BTW, letting perfect be the enemy of the good is a Democratic Party strategy so don't use it because it doesn't work.
It's unfortunate that she's blind to that, because hordes of pakis pose a considerably greater threat than a few trannies (who are already on the back foot) to women's rights and women's safety.
This is why the solution is to allow some women and children who are in great danger to seek refuge, while rejecting single able-bodied men of military age & men with families who want to seek asylum while leaving their woman and children back home. But the women and children gotta go to school.
homoerotic plays about bestiality ("Equus")
GUYS. WE FUCKING TALKED ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
 
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But anyone using “poverty” to describe the UK is cringe. Poverty is what war-affected refugees or starving third worlders experience, not Brits temporarily on unemployment benefits in the 1990’s.
I've lived in the third world for over 1/3 of my life and seen varying degrees of what you would call "real poverty" up close (and still know people who grew up in it), and I disagree. Poverty is relative. It doesn't always mean a dirt floor, no electricity, lacking basic education, barely any food, using a hole in the ground to do your business, and having no means to get to the doctor. You're being unnecessarily strict with the definition because her using the word struck a nerve. I thought your first post was pretty fair, but I don't agree that nobody in the UK in the 90s was allowed to call themselves poor except refugees. That's unreasonable.

Edit: Inb4 "you're privileged," yes I am, and I've always known it. You're still being irrational about this.
 
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Do the actors go out of their way to talk about her?
Yes.
Why deny something so evident? Do you have anything to gain?
Or you simply were victim of the unequal redistribution of oxygen at birth?
Am I autistic for seeing parallels between books 5 and 6, and how troon enablers treated her and other TERFs for the horrible crime of not affirming them hard enough?
No, I also see the parallels (or maybe we're both autistic), but I attribute it to the fact that trannies and their enablers are extremely illiterate due to not reading any other book out of fear of encountering wrongthink or "triggering material" (am I right, boys and girls?) and subconsciously enacting their only source of reference for politics into their real-life enemies.
(Forget it, maybe I am more autistic *sigh*)

Sometimes it strikes me that when you think of misogyny you think of the taliban, when you think of racism you think of the KKK, when you think of antisemitism you think of the holocaust. But this is the face of transphobia: a liberal children's book writer who doesn't want you dead, she just wants you to have mental health support.
It's double funny because (:politisperg:) the far left lunatics are the most staunch supporters of fundamentalist, Islamist terror groups that would stone them to death without any question for the crime of being faggots or unaccompanied women. They are also the most insane race-obsessed group of people that want to reduce absolutely every aspect of life and politics to some sort of Marxist race struggle, and of course, their "Free Palestine" slogan doesn't go separate from harassing random Jewish students. What makes anybody honestly think that they ever opposed misogyny, racism, political murders, terrorism, child rape, human trafficking, genocide, religious fundamentalism or antisemitism?

They only oppose the idea of NOT having the monopoly on those practices.
 
She looks perfectly fine. It's normal to start getting a few wrinkles at 35. Botox and instagram filters are not reality for normal, well adjusted people
Yeah, nasolabial folds are largely genetic. You either get deep ones in your early 30s or you don't. You'd need to get a lot of vanity surgery to combat those. The rest I'd chalk up to the occasional odd lighting or makeup. She looks fine for a 35-year-old.
 
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