Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"

[Miraculous Moldbug]

So out of curiosity. Who if any in the cast and crew actually had the stones to stand up for JKR and who at least didn't throw her under the bus? The only one who I remember being mentioned defending her was the Hagrid actor and I don't know if this remained constant.

Tom Felton did stand up for her if I recall correctly

 

[Nox Was Right]

Where on earth did they get Holocaust denier from?!

Modern trannyism was invented by Magnus Hirschfeld, a jewish doctor in Weimar Germany who led an "Institute For Sexuality" that was burned down by the NS as well as his books. The fight (arguably, self-defense) against those degenerates didn't start with muh wokeism 15 years ago, it's much more ancient.

 

[Trapper]

In some ways I feel Emma Watson is a product of her environment. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike her and think she’s spineless, but imagine getting a huge, years long movie role at the age of 10, have everyone around you fawn and treat you like the second coming, you probably start to believe you ARE what everyone is telling you, and that you will evolve into one of the greatest actresses the world has ever seen, and you don’t need to learn anything about acting because you’re *naturally gifted*. You’re protected from bad things ever happening, and every wish is granted.

I can’t imagine it allows space for much reflection, gratitude, or acceptance that it’s all down to luck, and if another child had taken the role, you wouldn’t be on your way to acting in the next big film, but studying for a bullshit degree or working as a receptionist in a dentist’s office. On some level she maybe even resents Rowling, believing that she’s typecast because she took the role of Hermione instead of waiting it out for a different audition. As a result of her now over-inflated ego, she approaches roles in other films with a diva attitude, and the work starts to dry up as not only can’t she act, she’s too much trouble to work with for a name losing its relevancy with each passing year. She doesn’t have any genuine relationships or friendships either.

Surrounded by yes-men, self-doubt and insecurity starts to creep in, but it’s at the level of a “gifted and talented” child getting bad grades at college through lack of study, not any real level of depth. Desperate to cling to relevancy, she jumps on the Hollywood faux-feminism and then pro-trans trends, using the hatred her social bubble had for Rowling to propel herself forward. As you can see in that word salad interview, she still hasn’t reflected on any of it, just looking for what the right opinion is.

In a lot of ways, I’m impressed it didn’t happen to Tom Felton. Like another poster pointed out, maybe having boos as well as cheers greet you is grounding, but he could still have gone down the path of thinking he was a big shot actor destined for the Oscars, and has turned out remarkably realistic and practical.

 

[General Zoider]

I am happy to see people change thier tune on rowling.

Modern trannyism was invented by Magnus Hirschfeld, a jewish doctor in Weimar Germany who led an "Institute For Sexuality" that was burned down by the NS as well as his books. The fight (arguably, self-defense) against those degenerates didn't start with muh wokeism 15 years ago, it's much more ancient.

I think it goes all the way back to the Skoptsy in russia who were around in the 1800s.

 

[Eggward biscuitbottom]

Her writing being so clear and concise whilst still being fully comprehensible for someone who has English (like me) as a second language is quite commendable. I don't particularly care for the Harry Potter books but she's very good and bringing her message across.

 

[Nox Was Right]

I am happy to see people change thier tune on rowling.

I think it goes all the way back to the Skoptsy in russia who were around in the 1800s.

To my knowledge, the Sloptsy were not trannies, they were just christians who thought that the eunuch thing in the bible should be applied literally, ever since the birth of the religion it had to deal with that, one of the earliest councils (that of Nicene maybe?) had to formally outlaw it because of how common it was. Trannyism and saulstianity are both jewish cults, but they will never agree to being told that.

 

[deerbeer]

I mean, fuck, Harry's entire role in all of the books is him restoring and maintaining the status quo. They are books fundamentally about protecting what we love from those that would corrupt and destroy it. They are quite conservative in nature, regardless of all the progressive bells and whistles thrown in.

I once watched a gay video essay by breadtuber Shaun criticizing the Harry Potter series, and he talked about this very thing and how it's bad actually.

It's crazy because it's a reminder that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Harry Potter fans

I meant to open a thread on the fandom at some point, but a lot of the craziness is buried with the old internet and, possibly, lost forever

I believe Evanna is a true believer

Isn't she LGBT herself?

I think it takes a special moral fibre to keep the respect and friendship while disagreeing about something like this, in these circumstances and publicly demand respect for the other part.

I personally disagree with all the shit Evanna is into, but she obviously is of a good character. At least of a better character.

I’m impressed it didn’t happen to Tom Felton

Tom Felton reeks of actual posh upbringing.

He's been sexualized since he was a child in a very disturbing manner, though.

 

[vanilla_pepsi_head]

This is what bugs me the most about Rowling Derangement syndrome. They act like Rowling is some kind of revered expert on tranny issues and a lot of people listen to her her for pointers on policy. That idea is absolutely absurd, but perhaps not nearly as absurd as saying men can be women so they already are in that ballpark of mental gymnastics. When I hear people whining about Rowling and I instantly know they're retarded.

One of the worst things about social media is how public figures of any kind are pressured into announcing their retarded opinion on every divisive political issue by mobs of paint-huffing idiots who will voraciously shit on them if they don't pick a side. Whether they openly admit they haven't formed a strong opinion because they are so uninformed about the issue, or if they prefer to keep their political hot takes private, they're expected to pick a side, us or them, good guys or bad guys, silence is violence. I don't get it, I have no fucking idea why anyone cares to hear their favorite porn star or pop singer pontificate about Palestine in between taking loads to the face, and being this mad because a lady who wrote some children's books about wizards isn't keen in trannies is not much less absurd than that.

Even more ridiculous is how even if they do express an opinion on any given subject, it is impossible to do that without catching a metric ton of shit because partisan faggotry leads people to assume they must also hold the standard pre-packaged lockstep opinions that (often arbitrarily) are said to go with it. Niggercattle think it's impossible to mix and match rather than buy the whole box set. A lot of those issues aren't even fucking related, but it's depressing how many people short circuit entirely if confronted by a person who has independent opinions, unable to compute how someone could possibly be, like JKR's example, in favor of helping refugees, respecting diversity and other cultures, women's rights, and free speech; and against identity politics and tranny shenanigans; and agnostic about Israel all at the same time. And it isn't only the leftists doing it, either.

J. K. Rowling: "Transwomen are men."
Kiwi Farms: "Oh really Joanne? What about the immigrants Joanne? What about the rape Joanne? WHAT ABOUT THE RAPE??!!!"

You can't support the idea of giving refugees health care while also wanting to ban trannies from preying on vulnerable women, that's illegal.
The partisan divide is fake, gay, and malignant.

Anyway, thought I'd hold my nose and go rooting around reddit to find some thread tax as penance for being a feature fag. (I somehow completely dicked up the nested quotes and spoilers but I think I fixed it by editing the written BB code, apologies for any format issues).

Spoiler: retarded reddit takes

Since this has come up several times in the thread, I figured I'd post this tweet:

reddit thread discussing this tweet.

The OP:



"Their own opinions"? Lol ok. They're public figures frantically parroting "transwomenarewomen" like the incantation for a protective charm, hoping it's enough to avoid the barrage of rape and death threats from unhinged violent trannies and the adjacent virtue signaler lynch mob. I would not necessarily say that qualifies as "their own opinion", because that would mean it's sheer coincidence that everyone, totally organically, just suddenly started falling over themselves to announce their undying support for fucking cross dressers of all things at the exact same time, and it had nothing to do with the fears of unhinged tranny stalkers making good on their threats to rape them to death. Pretty absurd claim. But what do I know.

A few choice replies:

An extremely popular creator actively involved in her lucrative businesses with several new projects on the go and a few billion dollars to fart around with in her spare time spends her whole day at home scrolling Twitter? I'm sure this autist with at least a dozen posts per day on reddit about Power Rangers and anime is correct here and this is not projection.

Tranny handmaiden and SJW baselessly assumes JKR probably is estranged from her family because her behavior drove them away. Idk about that, but know who does tend to drive away family members? Obnoxious virtue signalers who turn every conversation into a struggle session where they look for any perceived ideological impurity to wokescold about. And trooning out. But this is also definitely not projection, no sir.

This retard is 36 years old, I checked. She should be old enough to remember the days before social media, when it was completely normal (if not expected) to keep your mouth shut and refuse to engage in political autism at work to ensure your professional relationships remain functional enough that you keep your job. It's not a big ask and you don't have to be in perfect lockstep with every single one of your coworkers' personal opinions on every imaginable topic. You're there for a paycheck, not to bicker with your boss about trannies. Grow up.

A Potter actor has a completely grounded and reasonable response to questions only being asked as a pretext to try and drag him into a dumpster fire of drama and shit flinging over a retarded premise, which he prefers not to engage in. Redditors disregard this entirely because Orange Man Bad and they find it upsetting that he follows Trump's Instagram page. The cope about explanations for why he might be following that account got a legit lol out of me. Trump is arguably the most famous and influential human being on the planet at the moment and makes news daily, following the account to remain current does not necessarily mean one even likes Orange Man, fucking relax.

The OP:

Massive thread about Emma's reply that is absolute quintessential reddit. The trigger warning, a janny having to manually approve all comments, first reply is a massive karms farming circlejerk started by some rando immediately launching into an overly long and wholly irrelevant powerlevel (don't bother reading the whole thing, I didn't), "edit: thanks kind strangers", and a dent head who thinks they are the first one to discover cognitive dissonance and it's some major profound revelation that sometimes there are people you disagree with on some things but still generally like.

I'm done for now. As fun as it is to mock redditors I think just skimming those threads might've given me cancer.

 

[Nox Was Right]

I once watched a gay video essay by breadtuber Shaun criticizing the Harry Potter series, and he talked about this very thing and how it's bad actually.

It's crazy because it's a reminder that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

It's how egalitarian cults since saulstianity work. They hold that "inequalities" are absolute evil and that all manners of hierarchies/inequalities must be destroyed and that being superior is evil. Therefore the fact that you are healthy, intelligent, strong, happy, honest, are loved... all of those things are considered immoral by the egalitarians who believe you should never be allowed to be superior to them, to not be dumb, obese, depressed, weak...

You can't reason with them because they perceive you as ontologically evil for being superior to them (and not even necessary biologically, but simply via your choices in life too), they think themselves absolute good ("the meek shall inherit the earth") and you absolute evil. They want a world where everyone is at the level of the lowest common denominator. They feel no shame in lying to you, murdering you, raping your kids, because in their eyes you deserve it for not being as dysgenic as them. They hate you period, they don't disagree with you, they hate your very existence and nothing you do can change that.

And if the reaction to the assassination of Kirk showed anything, it's that egalitarians are no better than ISIS, anyone being outside of their sect deserves immediate execution in their eyes.

 

[Adrenochrome Dreams]

I'm not disagreeing with your point that middle class people have a different definition of "poverty," and that she was probably never in poverty by the standards of the lower class, but I'm not sure how you can assume this in particular. Did she say as much?

Yes, she said she didn’t want to burden her sister.

It’s giving Jack Monroe energy, who made a career out of supposedly having experienced grinding poverty. When the presence of her wealthy local family was questioned, she said she was too ashamed to tell them.

Now I’m not saying JKR is a liar or a scammer or that her family were outright wealthy, just that she’s disingenuous about this. I don’t doubt that she was skint when newly divorced with a toddler.

But anyone using “poverty” to describe the UK is cringe. Poverty is what war-affected refugees or starving third worlders experience, not Brits temporarily on unemployment benefits in the 1990’s.

JKR could still make her point that Emma Watson has never experienced the real adult world or need for services like she has. Her experiences are still just as valid.

Though I recall JKR not checking her privilege back during the “migrant crisis” of 2015. This was when millions of mostly young, male, uneducated Muslims swarmed into Europe and pretended to be from Syria.

Of course, she was calling to let them all in and saying everyone who disagreed was racist and bigoted. She ignored people asking if she’d be willing to house some of these men in her mansion.

She’s never been the type of working class girl they target, so she had zero understanding or empathy.

She’s recently started to tentatively question rapefugees. I wonder if she will admit her ignorance or cowardice, and apologise for tarnishing working class people as racists and phobes - life-ruining accusations that quash free speech.

Again, JKR is to be commended for standing up for women and so eloquently calling out the trans menace, before it was safe to do so. But she’s not perfect.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

HP's world building was incredibly shallow. Like, really really shallow. It's not really her fault and we can't judge it by today's higher standards.

What standards are those, Middle Earth? Warhammer 40K?

 

[Der weiße Teufel]

But anyone using “poverty” to describe the UK is cringe. Poverty is what war-affected refugees or starving third worlders experience, not Brits temporarily on unemployment benefits in the 1990’s

Pretty sure she was aware of this and never said she had it has bad as starving third worlders. But I find "poverty" a pretty neutral word that does not have to mean "complete destitute".

In her Harvard speech 2008 she said
"I was jobless, a lone parent, and as poor as it is possible to be in modern Britain, without being homeless."

 

[Ewan McGregor]

You can't support the idea of giving refugees health care while also wanting to ban trannies from preying on vulnerable women, that's illegal.
The partisan divide is fake, gay, and malignant

The thing about refugees when that was a thing was the dissonance between how Jo (and those who think like her) saw the refugees, how the anti-immigration crowd saw them, and what it actually was.

Jo: These people are victims of a brutal, multi-faction civil war in Syria that are looking to not be massacred somewhere and deserve compassion

The Anti-immigration crowd: We cannot absorb and integrate in such a large amount people from an entirely different cultural background, possibly traumatized and without vetting

Reality: A cynical scheme to slide in cheap labour through immigration with good publicity, spearheaded by neolibs like Angela Merkel. A lot of 'syrian' refugees turned out to actually be pakis, 'jeets, subsaharan africans, and a shitload of people that had nothing to do with Syria or its civil war. They did the same again and more blatantly with Ukrainian refugees and now they just dropped all pretense.

So, I'm cutting some slack on JKR on this one even though I'm mostly on the part of the anti-immigration crowd.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

It's unfortunate that she's blind to that, because hordes of pakis pose a considerably greater threat than a few trannies (who are already on the back foot) to women's rights and women's safety.

Shitlibs and feminists are incapable of realizing this and will divert all their effort to self soothing displacement activities like women's sport.

The X dunking is enjoyable to read though.

 

[Crex Crex]

I once watched a gay video essay by breadtuber Shaun criticizing the Harry Potter series, and he talked about this very thing and how it's bad actually.

It's crazy because it's a reminder that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.

Defeating wizard LITERAL HITLER and restoring peace is... le bad!

Kill all breadtubers in minecraft with all three of the USS Missouri's main gun turrets.

 

[Candidate No 7]

Re; "Holocaust denial".

1) "the Holocaust" (a biblical i.e. Hebrew term about animal sacrifice) refers specifically to the genocide of Jews by the Nazis
2) Everyone including Rowling knows about Nazi book-burning and the destruction of Hirschfel's crackpot institute. But the troons have retconned this as "Nazis persecuted trans people" which is an absurdity because "trans people" (as opposed to transexuals) were not invented until the early 21st Century. The Nazis didn't persecute any transexuals since none had been successfully created yet. They persecuted gays whether they cross-dressed or not.
3) TRAs have decided that any effort to resist or reject their historical revisionism and appropriation of the oppression of gays is "Holocaust denial" through their usual process of TRA 1 makes a hyperbolic claim, TRA 2 opines and adds to crazy on top, TRA 3 goes even further and off they go...

She is successful, and influential as far as it goes to be sure, but the current backlash against the trans movement, especially in the UK, is not because of her.

I have to disagree a bit or at least nuance that. Sure, it is not because of her, it's because of many courageous women and a few men. BUT, she has totally helped turn the tide. It really cannot be overstated how much she has changed things. Virtually everyone in publishing/entertainment/the arts/academia/journalism that spoke up on this before her suffered ostracism and career destruction. Even the right-wing press here (which is 80% of the UK press) was super careful with the topic.

It was pretty well known in both camps that se was a closet TERF for a couple of years before she spoke up but no one expected her to speak up. Her tweet about Maya Forstater, who had just been humiliated grossly by a judge, was a pure "the Cavalry has arrived" moment. I remember the incredulity and giddiness of all the GCs I followed on Twitter at the time.

And she put her money where her mouth was! She has helped finance a number of lawsuits including the crucial For Women Scotland case against the Scottish Government which resulted in the key Supreme Court judgement, which in turn has convinced the Labour government to flip on this. All this might have happened anyway in time but at the very least she accelerated it by a good couple of years.

(She didn't have to do any of this. As troons never tire of pointing out, she could just swim in money all day like Scrooge McDuck. They can't comprehend at all what motivates her because it clashes with their persecution complex. And yes, she has proved to be uncancellable but this was not obvious from the start and her fame meant she received levels of abuse and slander that virtually no one else in this fight can comprehend.)

 

[teriyakiburns]

The Nazis didn't persecute any transexuals since none had been successfully created yet. They persecuted gays whether they cross-dressed or not.

Setting aside the semantic debate - the nazis themselves believed transsexuals existed - they were a lot more nuanced about this than people like to believe. German transsexuals with the appropriate paperwork were allowed to remain as they were throughout the entire period of nazi rule. The Hitler government's issue with hirschfeld was his being jewish, rather than being a freaky sex doctor. At least one of his colleagues from the institute went on to perform similar experimental surgical research for the nazis.

 

[General Zoider]

fame meant she received levels of abuse and slander that virtually no one else in this fight can comprehend.)

wasnt she receiving death threats daily, not just from her country but internationally?

 

[bouquetnine]

Since this has come up several times in the thread, I figured I'd post this tweet:

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Lynch, Felton, the Phelps twins, maybe Bonnie Wright and Matthew Lewis. I'm curious: anyone else this thread can think of?

Edit: guys, I'm aware we don't and won't know. Most of them will be proper and private or won't care or won't touch the topic with a ten foot pole, unlike the Oliver Wood actor who wanted some attention earlier this year. I was asking for speculation and gossip, the fun stuff.

Rowling demonstrates classiness here.

One of the worst things about social media is how public figures of any kind are pressured into announcing their retarded opinion on every divisive political issue by mobs of paint-huffing idiots who will voraciously shit on them if they don't pick a side. Whether they openly admit they haven't formed a strong opinion because they are so uninformed about the issue, or if they prefer to keep their political hot takes private, they're expected to pick a side, us or them, good guys or bad guys, silence is violence. I don't get it, I have no fucking idea why anyone cares to hear their favorite porn star or pop singer pontificate about Palestine in between taking loads to the face, and being this mad because a lady who wrote some children's books about wizards isn't keen in trannies is not much less absurd than that.

A symptom of decaying society. People don't have any real friends so they attach too much of their personality to parasocial relationships. This of course means simplifying these people down to some 2 dimensional character like what they see in their brainrot movies. Politics is one of the few subjects that affects everyone and can relate to so that happens to be a lot of the chatter on these platforms. It's also complicated and really hard for these dumb fucks to understand how an idealistic policy can have terrible consequences. Rowling's letter mentions a great example: Emma's sheltered upbringing means she has no idea what supporting TIMs in women's spaces means. Rowling may not have to worry about that any more, but she has enough theory of mind (something these leftoids sorely lack) to understand how it will negatively affect others.