Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

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Waid Livestream - What will happen?

  • Talks about the lawsuit.

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Further incriminates himself.

    Votes: 18 48.6%

  • Defames YaBoi again.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • Normal interview. (no drama)

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Total voters
    37
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mindlessobserver said:
The US courts very very rarely countermand judgements rendered by a jury for this reason.
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There's also the Seventh Amendment, which also makes jury verdicts almost unassailable. As little as the right is exercised, it is absolutely central to the Western concept of justice.
 
mindlessobserver said:
He's a fool if he does. There is a another reason most civil cases settle before they end up in front of a jury. The entire system is designed to prevent this very thing from happening. After years of shit flinging and expense, the government itself will order and compel citizens to appear before the court to discharge their civic duty as jurors. Not to determine guilt or innocence in a criminal trial, but to sort out a dispute between two men over a fucking comic book.
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oh thats right. Cant parties be punished for not accepting a legitimate settlement offer? Would that apply in Federal court or is that just in Texas?
 
DragoonSierra said:
oh thats right. Cant parties be punished for not accepting a legitimate settlement offer? Would that apply in Federal court or is that just in Texas?
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It depends. There is no requirement for either side to accept a settlement offer. It could be used as proof of bad faith, as in what happened to Akilah with Sargon, in which her ridiculous demands were used as evidence her lawsuit was not serious. These things are only relevant to the damages phase though. If Waids lawyers do their job right, Meyers settlement offers will not be brought up at trial as they are not relevant. They only become relevant if it is found Waid committed the tortes. And even then it is a stretch. Sargon got deference as he was the defendant. In this case Waid is the defendant. He is under no obligation to admit to shit, and it is unlikely he will be punished for his "vigorous" defense. Rightly so I should add.
 
If Waid settles, Zaid will make sure the amount is never publicly known. Then all of Zaid's legal butt buddies will opine that it only amounted to a "nuisance payout."

That is precisely what Zaid claimed what happened in the Sandmann v. CNN case. A "nuisance payout" might have actually been the ultimate result of that one (we'll likely never actually know), but I don't think Meyer will be happy with a "nuisance payout." I wouldn't.

Point is, they'll spin that shit. It's enough to make me want Meyer to go the distance so the amount is actually on paper.
 
Captain Manning said:
If Waid settles, Zaid will make sure the amount is never publicly known. Then all of Zaid's legal butt buddies will opine that it only amounted to a "nuisance payout."

That is precisely what Zaid claimed what happened in the Sandmann v. CNN case. A "nuisance payout" might have actually been the ultimate result of that one (we'll likely never actually know), but I don't think Meyer will be happy with a "nuisance payout." I wouldn't.

Point is, they'll spin that shit. It's enough to make me want Meyer to go the distance so the amount is actually on paper.
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Any settlement Richard accepts will require a public apology/admission of guilt from Mark and that any gag order/NDA Zaid tries to force will probably be contingent on that. Richard has leverage in that; IE he'll take less money if Waid confesses his sins and publicly apologizes for them in a way that shows actual remorse. Zaid COULD keep upping and upping the settlement amount (basically offering Richard 2-3 times what he was suing for just to force him to sign the NDAs aka an NDA tax on Waid to silence Richard), but then again Waid would have to sign one too and we know he can't do it or won't do it since settling in and of itself would be an admission of guilt if NDAs silence both sides.
 
Waid should try to settle soon. Bloodbath at DC as they are winding down will cut in to his discretionary income to buy plastic toy figurines, or pay council rates.
If I were waid I would try to settle this as soon as possible since there will be much more urgent things to worry about on the immediate horizon.
 
Cuckoman said:
Waid should try to settle soon. Bloodbath at DC as they are winding down will cut in to his discretionary income to buy plastic toy figurines, or pay council rates.
If I were waid I would try to settle this as soon as possible since there will be much more urgent things to worry about on the immediate horizon.
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Wasnt Waid brought in after the Bloodbath started?
 
MirrorNoir said:
Any settlement Richard accepts will require a public apology/admission of guilt from Mark and that any gag order/NDA Zaid tries to force will probably be contingent on that. Richard has leverage in that; IE he'll take less money if Waid confesses his sins and publicly apologizes for them in a way that shows actual remorse. Zaid COULD keep upping and upping the settlement amount (basically offering Richard 2-3 times what he was suing for just to force him to sign the NDAs aka an NDA tax on Waid to silence Richard), but then again Waid would have to sign one too and we know he can't do it or won't do it since settling in and of itself would be an admission of guilt if NDAs silence both sides.
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It's worth noting that the AT&T rumor mills are running rampant with claims of how desperate AT&T has become to sell of CNN. They've become a fiscal liability.
 
DragoonSierra said:
Yeah but didnt Waid get hired after the first round of layoffs?
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It seems Waid was somehow brought in as part of the axings and replacements. I'm not sure exactly what plan that accomplishes, it really looks like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to me. But I don't see this weird marshmallow man as on the chopping block quite yet.
 
AnOminous said:
It seems Waid was somehow brought in as part of the axings and replacements. I'm not sure exactly what plan that accomplishes, it really looks like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to me. But I don't see this weird marshmallow man as on the chopping block quite yet.
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I suspect AT&T's endgame is to scale down the publishing arm of DC to the point where it consists of Mark Waid, imprisoned SIMS-style inside a windowless, door-less room, screaming "Fix this now!" at the walls. This will be the new model for the comic book industry going forward.
 
Vault Boy said:
A combination of a failing economy and increasingly unpopular comics seems to be catching up to them.

I wonder how long it'll take for Disney to start taking an axe to Marvel Comics as well.
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I give it sometime in the first half of next year.
 
Marvel is more likely to get a heavy reorg and maybe a more artful touch of the scalpel than having an axe taken to it, I think. Disney knows that they're still where the ink for a lot of their money printers comes from, so I think they'd be more likely to shove someone in there who's going to turn it into more of an actual marketing tool for the movies than their own personal playpen or... whatever the hell they thought they were doing when they made Tony Stark the embodiment of white guilt during Iron Man movies being the most popular things on the planet.

DC, meanwhile, is just not making Warner the money it wants. It's clear they're sort of flailing, in total "Throw everything at the same wall at once and see what sticks" mode desperately trying to please an audience they've lost all connection with or understanding of, and Waid will only make that problem worse. It's like @AnOminous said, they're rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, while also simultaneously playing musical chairs and twister with them.
 
Weeb Slinger said:
I suspect AT&T's endgame is to scale down the publishing arm of DC to the point where it consists of Mark Waid, imprisoned SIMS-style inside a windowless, door-less room, screaming "Fix this now!" at the walls. This will be the new model for the comic book industry going forward.
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But will there be a phone for King Baby to scream into and slam on the floor?
 
Weeb Slinger said:
I suspect AT&T's endgame is to scale down the publishing arm of DC to the point where it consists of Mark Waid, imprisoned SIMS-style inside a windowless, door-less room, screaming "Fix this now!" at the walls. This will be the new model for the comic book industry going forward.
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If only we could lure him into the pool then take away the ladder?
 
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