Opinion Renewable energy has been a failure so far

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John Stossel: Renewable energy has been a failure so far​

John Stossel

Sat, March 26, 2022

The "Greens" promise renewables, solar and wind power, will replace fossil fuels. After all, the wind and sun are free, and they don't pollute.

Oops.

Now countries that embraced renewables are so desperate for power that they eagerly import coal, the worst polluter of all.

Do they apologize? No. Greens never apologize.

Germany was a leader in renewable energy, so confident in solar and wind power that they closed half their nuclear plants.

Oops.

That leaves Germans so short of power that Germans are now desperate to buy fossil fuels from Russia. Even worse, pollution-wise, high pollution coal now tops wind as Germany's biggest electricity source. That's really disgusting.
Then, even after putting all that soot in the air, Germans pay more than triple what Americans pay for electricity.

For my new video, I confront German-born environmentalist Johanna Neumann of Environment America, a group that lobbies for 100% renewable energy.
I point out that despite massive subsidies, her beloved renewables still provide just 12% of our power. She responds, "Saying renewables are not yet powering our utility grid is like critiquing a 2-year-old for not being able to run a marathon."
A 2-year-old? I don't want to meet that kid. Renewables have been subsidized for 40 years, not two.

"How we spend our taxes ought to be a reflection of our values," Neumann adds. "Americans ... love renewable energy."
Yes, I suppose we do. We like the idea of it. I put solar panels on my roof. I'd be a sucker not to. Massachusetts takes money from other state residents to give me a tax break on solar panels.

Still, in winter, when the sun is low, or my panels are covered by snow, I get nothing from my solar panels.

What kind of energy solution is that? People need energy when it's cloudy, too. They also need it when the wind doesn't blow.

"When the sun goes down ... offshore winds get cranked up," says Neumann.
No, they don't!

"The wind doesn't always come up when the sun goes down," I point out.

"Renewables are clearly better," Neumann replies.

She says we'll solve renewable energy's inconsistency by doing things like storing energy in batteries.

Well, yes, a battery that holds energy for weeks would make renewables work. But it doesn't exist.

"This is just a total fantasy, which is why nobody has done it anywhere, ever!" says Alex Epstein, author of "The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels."

Fossil fuels are moral, Epstein correctly points out, because human flourishing depends on them.

Abundant fossil fuels are especially important for poor people.

"Three billion people in the world still use less electricity than a typical American refrigerator. Are we going to allow them to have a modern life? Because that's going to depend on fossil fuels."

Even if climate change becomes a serious problem, fossil fuels reduce its harm by making us prosperous enough to afford protection against the climate.

"We have a 98% decline in climate-related disaster deaths over the last 100 years," Epstein points out.

A 98% drop in deaths. This is the amazing untold story of fossil fuels and their benefits. Because oil and natural gas so efficiently provide power, heat homes when it's freezing, pump water during droughts, etc., millions thrive, despite problems like climate change.

Thanks to fossil fuels, "We have this amazing productive ability," says Epstein. "That's the only reason we experience the planet as livable."

Global warming is a threat. Limiting fossil fuels now, without a capable alternative, will make it even harder to deal with the effects.

Unless someone invents a miracle battery or something else that makes sun and wind power practical, we need fossil fuels, desperately.

Poor people need them most.
John Stossel is creator of Stossel TV and author of "Give Me a Break: How I Exposed Hucksters, Cheats, and Scam Artists and Became the Scourge of the Liberal Media."
 
Always found weird how Germany of all places fell hook line and sinker for the nuclear is bad meme. We usually think of Germans as efficient and no-nonsense and yet it's one of the few countries in the world where people actually take the green party seriously. They also fell for the video games cause violence meme.
 
He’s still assuming it’s idiocy and not deliberate. Germany is a good case in point - they shuttered coal and nuclear plants and now have insufficient energy for their needs. This directly harms citizens and leads to political instability.
Any leader who actively curtails their country’s energy self sufficiency is a traitor.
All of this is working towards forcing people to accept lower standards of living and forcing political conflict.
Renewables are great, in specific local circumstances - you’ve got massive hydro or geothermal? You’d be daft not to use it. But power security is a massive issue, and the greens deliberate destruction of power security is just another way of destabilising the economy. The price of power affects everything - food, transport, home power bills, manufacturing, everything.
 
Always found weird how Germany of all places fell hook line and sinker for the nuclear is bad meme. We usually think of Germans as efficient and no-nonsense and yet it's one of the few countries in the world where people actually take the green party seriously. They also fell for the video games cause violence meme.
Because they also have very low self-esteem and need to be perceived as "good" due to the you-know-what. It's like a person who cheats on their partner and even though the partner has forgiven you, you still feel paranoid all the time that they will bring it up to the conversation and blame you.
 
Because they also have very low self-esteem and need to be perceived as "good" due to the you-know-what. It's like a person who cheats on their partner and even though the partner has forgiven you, you still feel paranoid all the time that they will bring it up to the conversation and blame you.
I'd say it's a little more like gaslighting boyfriend than a paranoid one, since Germany only cares about looking good. I'm insufficiently convinced that they actually are trying to be good.
 
He’s still assuming it’s idiocy and not deliberate. Germany is a good case in point - they shuttered coal and nuclear plants and now have insufficient energy for their needs. This directly harms citizens and leads to political instability.
Any leader who actively curtails their country’s energy self sufficiency is a traitor.
All of this is working towards forcing people to accept lower standards of living and forcing political conflict.
Renewables are great, in specific local circumstances - you’ve got massive hydro or geothermal? You’d be daft not to use it. But power security is a massive issue, and the greens deliberate destruction of power security is just another way of destabilising the economy. The price of power affects everything - food, transport, home power bills, manufacturing, everything.
A lot of greens are bankrolled by the Saudis.
 
Renewable Energy is not useless, it's because of the people's culture of constant energy usage from their lifestyles require so much energy that RE is unable to produce mass quantities of such. If people want Renewable Energy to be actually useful, maybe they can stop typing in their keyboards and actually make a change of lifestyle like lessening usage of their aircons over such.
 
"When the sun goes down ... offshore winds get cranked up," says Neumann.
No, they don't!

"The wind doesn't always come up when the sun goes down," I point out.

"Renewables are clearly better," Neumann replies.
"Why?"

"BECAUSE THEY ARE MORALLY BETTER, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


Look, you might be end up freezing to death in winter, but at least you're gonna be a moral and ethical corpse.
 
As it stands today, renewable energy is best used as a supplementary source of energy. The technology isn't where renewable would be able to consistently produce the levels of energy needed to replace fossil fuels as the primary source of energy production. If you want a lot of energy that's clean as a whistle, go nuclear.
 
As it stands today, renewable energy is best used as a supplementary source of energy. The technology isn't where renewable would be able to consistently produce the levels of energy needed to replace fossil fuels as the primary source of energy production. If you want a lot of energy that's clean as a whistle, go nuclear.
It would be a shame if a less-knowledgeable country goes nuclear, Chernobyl 2.0?
 
Renewable Energy is not useless, it's because of the people's culture of constant energy usage from their lifestyles require so much energy that RE is unable to produce mass quantities of such. If people want Renewable Energy to be actually useful, maybe they can stop typing in their keyboards and actually make a change of lifestyle like lessening usage of their aircons over such.
That would require a massive lifestyle change for everyone since industries that require large amounts of constant energy would fail on only renewables, unless you're including nuclear as a renewable source.
 
Always found weird how Germany of all places fell hook line and sinker for the nuclear is bad meme. We usually think of Germans as efficient and no-nonsense and yet it's one of the few countries in the world where people actually take the green party seriously. They also fell for the video games cause violence meme.

Because they also have very low self-esteem and need to be perceived as "good" due to the you-know-what. It's like a person who cheats on their partner and even though the partner has forgiven you, you still feel paranoid all the time that they will bring it up to the conversation and blame you.
no
the real answer is because germany has essentially been ruled by a hostile occupation government for some 70 years now, whose main goal is making the country weak and keeping it subservient to the western allies.

some american once said "the point of NATO in europe is to keep america in, keep russia out, and keep germany down"
the german political class is basically the extension of that line of thought from military matters into civilian affairs. they allowed the country some degree of reindustrialisation and remilitarisation because at the time it was deemed beneficial for the cold war effort by the western powers, the "russia out" part, but at no point did they lose sight of the "germany down" part either.
 
no
the real answer is because germany has essentially been ruled by a hostile occupation government for some 70 years now, whose main goal is making the country weak and keeping it subservient to the western allies.

some american once said "the point of NATO in europe is to keep america in, keep russia out, and keep germany down"
the german political class is basically the extension of that line of thought from military matters into civilian affairs. they allowed the country some degree of reindustrialisation and remilitarisation because at the time it was deemed beneficial for the cold war effort by the western powers, the "russia out" part, but at no point did they lose sight of the "germany down" part either.
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I don't get why people can't understand this. We know how much energy is in a photon. We can measure the number of photons that strike the Earth. We know the available surface area of the Earth. We know the current efficiency of solar panels. We know the patterns and historical trends of the wind. The math is the math. You can't run society on solar and wind alone. Combustion of fossil fuels absolutely dwarfs the energy output of renewable energy sources, and the output of nuclear energy absolutely dwarfs that of combustible fossil fuels.
 
I don't get why people can't understand this. We know how much energy is in a photon. We can measure the number of photons that strike the Earth. We know the available surface area of the Earth. We know the current efficiency of solar panels. We know the patterns and historical trends of the wind. The math is the math. You can't run society on solar and wind alone. Combustion of fossil fuels absolutely dwarfs the energy output of renewable energy sources, and the output of nuclear energy absolutely dwarfs that of combustible fossil fuels.
Nuclear energy is fine. The problem is what happens when you give Nuclear Energy to retards that will devastate a portion of a country to unlivable smithereens.
That would require a massive lifestyle change for everyone since industries that require large amounts of constant energy would fail on only renewables, unless you're including nuclear as a renewable source.
I mentioned few posts ago, yeah people need a full-blown change of lifestyle if they want RE to work. Even stuff like microchips need to lessen their watt usage to compensate for RE, which is costly. I'm fine with the nuclear option but people need to be seriously educated if they want to use it. How many Chernobyls/Fukushimas do we need just to make people realize that fact.
 
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Renewable Energy is not useless, it's because of the people's culture of constant energy usage from their lifestyles require so much energy that RE is unable to produce mass quantities of such. If people want Renewable Energy to be actually useful, maybe they can stop typing in their keyboards and actually make a change of lifestyle like lessening usage of their aircons over such.
So we'll just rewrite human nature to conform to our fart-huffing energy schemes. It's so simple it just might work.
 
Nuclear energy is fine. The problem is what happens when you give Nuclear Energy to retards that will devastate a portion of a country to unlivable smithereens.

I mentioned few posts ago, yeah people need a full-blown change of lifestyle if they want RE to work. Even stuff like microchips need to lessen their watt usage to compensate for RE, which is costly. I'm fine with the nuclear option but people need to be seriously educated if they want to use it. How many Chernobyls/Fukushimas do we need just to make people realize that fact.
Slavs cant boil water, and fukushima was a corrupted mess using seriously out of date technology. Are you really using 2 of the worst examples of managerial fuck ups to paint nuclear power in a bad light, cause to me it seems like a common component of both is a certain class of person.
 
Slavs cant boil water, and fukushima was a corrupted mess using seriously out of date technology. Are you really using 2 of the worst examples of managerial fuck ups to paint nuclear power in a bad light, cause to me it seems like a common component of both is a certain class of person.
Just to be clear, I actually want Nuclear Energy to be a thing, completely transitioning to RE is a lost cause because of our lifestyles. In fact, I want every single country to operate in that manner. What bothers me is that we don't have enough educational countrymen who know a thing or two about managing a nuclear power plant then they complain why we aren't using the fucking energy method because we didn't train our Gen Z monkeys a thing or two about nuclear fission and fusion, that or we just told the Pajeets and First-World parasites to make the powerplants, who can take out our source of energy because lol we couldn't teach shit to our own nation about energy and spent all our energy in social media.

Again, apologies if I accidentally sound like a bugman boogeyman but I really hope more people can learn about Nuclear Energy before actually putting it to good use.
 
He’s still assuming it’s idiocy and not deliberate.
At this point, there can really be no other conclusion. When you get down to it, power grids are an extremely simple algorithm. What's peak load? Can we generate that much? If not, spawn more overlords. That's it. That's the algorithm. So when a government sees that they can't generate enough power and they respond by lowering capacity, you have to assume malice. Stupidity can only explain so much. They actually want you to think that they're merely incompetent morons because it lets them get away with more.
 
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