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I am also not a devil worshipper, how can I worship something that I do not acknowledge exists? If not believing in God makes me a devil worshipper, then the devil sure doesn't require much effort from me to worship him.
I'm guessing an atheist is a devil worshipper because according to some crazed Christians, atheist might be trying to sway the youth with their godless lifestyle which could only be the work of the devil. It is this sort of thing that makes one wonder how bad a religion would have it when you get these sort of people who think any that isn't of them must really be against them.
 
I'm guessing an atheist is a devil worshipper because according to some crazed Christians, atheist might be trying to sway the youth with their godless lifestyle which could only be the work of the devil. It is this sort of thing that makes one wonder how bad a religion would have it when you get these sort of people who think any that isn't of them must really be against them.

Have you ever read any C.S. Lewis? He depicts at least one character who's an atheist but whose atheism makes him a tool of the devil. The argument is basically that only God can save you from the devil, and by actively rejecting God you are effectively, if not consciously, inviting in the devil.
 
Have you ever read any C.S. Lewis? He depicts at least one character who's an atheist but whose atheism makes him a tool of the devil. The argument is basically that only God can save you from the devil, and by actively rejecting God you are effectively, if not consciously, inviting in the devil.
Because C.S. Lewis was a preachy fruit.
 
Yes, it's idiotic. But that's basically where the "atheists are devil worshippers" thing comes from.
Most atheists who claim to be devil worshippers are just trying to troll the Christians or use him as a symbol of rebellion and freedom. Unless they fall under the branch of believing in theistic satanism. Then there are the teenage twits trying to be edgy.

In other words, you really shouldn't take "satanists" seriously, they are probably trying to get a reaction from you.
 
Most atheists who claim to be devil worshippers are just trying to troll the Christians or use him as a symbol of rebellion and freedom.

The question I was attempting to answer was why christians would believe atheists are devil worshippers, not why would atheists call themselves devil worshippers.
 
Unless they fall under the branch of believing in theistic satanism. Then there are the teenage twits trying to be edgy.
I do know of a few Processans that are way older than teenage and have this theology where they believe in Abraxes (God is Lucifer is Jesus is Satan) and tend to enjoy doing some odd shit. Topy Tribe is like that in my area, but I don't know any of the members well enough to comment at length and generally avoid them.
 
The question I was attempting to answer was why christians would believe atheists are devil worshippers, not why would atheists call themselves devil worshippers.
I was actually adding onto your comment. The point I was trying to make is that Christians should not take the bait when an atheist calls himself a "satanist"
 
I'm Jewish; I don't observe the Sabbath, but I do keep kosher. I find that religion helps me with my worldview and values, but that's just me; I fully accept those who choose to not go on faith.
 
I do know of a few Processans that are way older than teenage and have this theology where they believe in Abraxes (God is Lucifer is Jesus is Satan) and tend to enjoy doing some odd shit. Topy Tribe is like that in my area, but I don't know any of the members well enough to comment at length and generally avoid them.

When I was living in Boston there was this big stink when a bunch of Satanists apparently got permission to hold an event in Harvard's cultural club until the city's Catholics bitched them out.

Apparently they moved the event to this random Chinese restaurant. I wish I wasn't busy at the time - it sounds like it would have been interesting, at least.
 
In my experience there's two types of Satanists who take their beliefs seriously.

There's the LaVeyan Satanists - not necessarily members of LaVey's church, but those who follow his broad take on Satanism. They seem to basically see Satan as a sort of potent metaphor for secular human liberation and intellectual freedom, which makes them effectively secular humanists. It's pretty intensely retarded, because I don't think secular human liberation or intellectual freedom needs a metaphor to appeal to people, and even if it did, using a metaphor from a religious story for a secular idea.. nuff said.

The second group are the theological Satanists who actually believe that Satan is some kind of supernatural being who can be prayed to and worshipped and hands down laws. For all their theatrical disdain for Christianity they're basically just replicating Christianity with a very superficial change (e.g. the name of the head deity) and less of the social and cultural influence.

Both groups seem pretty stupid.
 
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Searching up a website written by a late-20s woman who talked about Satan being summoned by her and her boyfriend and I found a different website:

http://www.demonbuster.com/

Not Safe for Web Developers. Regardless of religion you shouldn't be an ass or have a bad looking website.
 
When I was a sophomore in high school, I went to a catholic youth retreat that was held by my local church's youth group. I was and still am openly atheist. So I did my fare share of eye rolling and daydreaming during talks and etc, but it was still a... Well, I'm embarassed, but it was a life changing experience.

The kids my age there were so happy. A kind of pure, non-selfish happiness and joy in caring for each other and listening to others issues and problems that I had never really seen before. It was a stark contrast to the sort of "bad christian" image that my atheist friends and I kept scoffing about privately.

Having gone to that thing really made me think.

Religion gave these people happiness, whether it can be considered "bigoted and false" or not. It allowed these teens to not feel embarrassed or lame about being good people and expressing compassion and understanding towards strangers. That's why I like where religious millennials are taking things- there are less of them , but they're not as gung-ho in their views as for example boomers and are way more laid-back and "you do you, I do me" about it.

I also felt very loved in that retreat. It was kinda sappy and lame at times, but other than my close friends I didn't know people were capable of that kind of goodness. I kinda thought most people were assholes and etc, but this proved me wrong and It made me feel nice.

Of course this doesn't mean there still isnt an outpouring of (especially older) bad religious people, or that religion can't be an easy bigotry enabler. But I am no longer a hateful atheist because sometimes people just have their own ways of finding happiness, ya know? Leave the cool ones be.

Tldr- used to be a fedora-tier atheist, went to a retreat, am now chill atheist and people can do what they want because millennial Christians are also super chill.
 
In my experience there's two types of Satanists who take their beliefs seriously.

There's the LaVeyan Satanists - not necessarily members of LaVey's church, but those who follow his broad take on Satanism.

These were basically the first euphoric atheists.
 
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