Opinion Reflections of a Firebrand - Jew Atheist regrets creating "Woke Atheism" after being cancelled back in 2018 for misconduct.

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I changed my country.

In my book Fighting God, I presentd substantial quantitative data supporting the argument that I, an individual activist, had significantly influenced American attitudes towards “God.” It’s a claim few can make, and one in which I have taken great pride.

Now, looking back, I find myself questioning whether I did the right thing. We, the atheist movement, championed truth and skepticism, considering them necessary for making good decisions and leading to freer lives with increased autonomy. That was good. We fought against religious zealots who used their might and money to curtail freedoms, from marriage rights to personal lifestyle choices. That was also good. We squared off against the religious Goliath and emerged victorious—Christianity has been steadily declining, with atheism surpassing the tipping point, as we hurtle towards a nonreligious future. That’s great!

Or is it?

Reflecting on the movement now, I see something I helped build, and then summarily destroy.

As a “Woke AF” leader of the atheist movement, I helped usher in the woke sea-change that has now completely derailed our original cause. Initially, it represented effective activism: advocating for LGBT and abortion rights from an atheistic perspective, positioning these issues within the framework of church and state separation. This broad activism established atheists as valuable contributors to our shared causes. Then wokeism emerged and the scene changed. Suddenly “Believe All Women” became consistent with skepticism, treating people the same regardless of skin color was deemed racist, and Freedom of Speech was labeled “oppressive.” I was right in the thick of it, leveraging my power to enact change.

In our fervor, we metaphorically “killed God.” The atheist movement triumphed—God is on the decline and the tipping point has obviously been passed. Yay.

As an activist, I envisioned a Scandinavian-style atheistic utopia taking shape in a post-religious country. I pictured a society where critical thought was prevalent, truth was prioritized, and autonomy and freedom were maximized because they were unburdened by manipulated information. In my mind, we would never resemble the atheists of China, who were simply mandated to be atheists but not taught critical thought, resulting in a country filled with atheists who still believed in ghosts, voodoo, and lucky numbers. But this wasn’t our path, I reasoned, because we emphasized critical thought—the key distinction.

I failed to consider that the members of my movement could reject skepticism yet label this rejection as skepticism to excuse their actions—and get away with it! I never envisioned that every significant player in the movement (save the fledgling Atheists for Liberty, on which I currently serve as Advisory Board Chair) would abandon our core principles and embrace the political hard Left, forsaking every belief and individual that was even slightly to the Right. I did not anticipate that the movement would leave the movement, become swallowed in Critical Social Justice, and lose its relevance and effectiveness in the process. I did not see it coming.

So, what has happened since we “killed God”? Not atheist Utopia. We won the booby prize—the religion of wokeism has completely taken over the Left side of politics, splitting both families and the nation itself. Riding on a wave of vapid emotion and a juvenile refusal to apply skepticism, the Woke Left—mostly atheists—have embraced this belief system as though it were the greatest new religion ever. Maybe it is.

However, lacking a deity, it allowed wokeism to reside within—and be propagated by—the state. This is why the Left has adopted it. We may have subdued the lion of Christianity, but we failed to eradicate religion; we merely revealed that the lion might have been safeguarding us from the Woke Kraken. This creature is now unshackled, entrenched in our government and education system, and is literally coming for your children.

One question on the table is: would I have preferred for Christianity to remain strong today, effectively suppressing wokeism, even if that meant having never partook in this struggle?

No. We normalized atheism and substantially helped the LGBT Rights movement when they needed us. We did good, but we failed to comprehend the innate desire for people to be told what to do, or the power of the convergence of laziness, white guilt, and groupthink that is wokeism to provide the masses with such direction. The blame does not rest with those of us who fought, but with those for—and with—whom we fought. They failed to internalize the need for skepticism, which was the cornerstone of our fight for freedom. They have betrayed themselves.

Simply put, today’s failures do not negate yesterday’s successes. Societal evolution ebbs and flows, and our efforts may yet prove to be a monumental good in the long run. Yes, we did good, we did it well, and we won. The issue we now face is a corrupted state religion that is brazenly assaulting the principles we hold dear and posing a real threat to our way of life.

So, what do we do now? I don’t have the answers, but I do have a few observations I’d like to share as we navigate the coming years.

The notion of atheists returning to church as a defense against wokeism, about which I first learned several months ago, left me incensed. It still does.

This idea—that atheists should stop resisting and instead actively promote Christianity, perhaps even joining churches, in an attempt to fortify it so that it may defeat wokeism—is gaining traction. Evan Riggs wrote in the European Conservative: “This is a call for sheer pragmatism… Of the two inescapable religious choices before us, Christianity is undoubtedly the better option.” My friend Peter Boghossian echoed a similar sentiment, tweeting, “Better to believe that a man walked on water than all men can give birth.”

This is a pivotal time for us all, and nobody has definitive answers. However, I believe it’s essential to reflect on our morality during this critical period. As I’ve stated earlier, Skepticism fosters truth, which is crucial for making informed choices, ultimately leading to freedom and autonomy. If you are kept in the dark about the truth—if your information is manipulated—you have less freedom to make informed decisions, and you are more enslaved to the narrative. Personal autonomy (you own you) is a principle I hold dear, thus the truth, and access to it, must be a top priority. Therefore:

  1. Indoctrinating a child with beliefs you know to be false, with the intent of controlling their actions and thoughts, is morally reprehensible. Think about this please. Scaring your children with tales of Hell and eternal damnation—which you know to be false—to deter them from becoming woke is nothing short of child abuse. It robs them of freedom and autonomy for the sake of convenience in raising them. You would despise your parents for doing that to you. It’s deeply immoral and truly fucked up. Don’t do it.
  2. It’s also wrong to misrepresent yourself to gain others’ approval. That robs them of the freedom to choose, thereby curtailing their autonomy. In this way, lying to others is a form of attack. In that vein, if you decide to join a church for the community or support, do so as an atheist; do not lie about yourself or your intentions. Find a church (still repulsive to write that but the world is new) that accepts you for who you are, and be yourself. Make “Secular Christianity” a norm within their religion, so as it grows, we will be part of it, not its victims. Your position will be made ever more challenging because it involves simultaneously making Christianity and Conservatism more inclusive of atheists while pushing them to be stalwarts against wokeism. Walk that line.
  3. Being openly atheist will become increasingly challenging; nonetheless, doing so is a moral obligation. We need to combat the growing bigotry against future atheists that’s being exacerbated by today’s woke atheists. Fight it, don’t fake it.
  4. Continue to support Right-of-far-Left atheist organizations like Atheists for Liberty. Being present and truthful on the political center and Right will be all-important as we move forward. I cannot stress this enough: we must be present, as atheists, in every conceivable arena as we forge our future.
While I may not have all the answers, I do have my limits. I understand we’re in unfamiliar territory, and we are all decent people striving to preserve what's precious to us. But deceit is not the answer. Lying is not the answer. Brainwashing our kids is definitely not the answer. We must remain open to all options without compromising our fundamental morality, or we risk betraying ourselves like our brainwashed woke brethren. Can we cooperate with religions? Sure. Should we join them? Perhaps that’s a viable option for some. Regardless, we must uphold the humanistic principles of honesty and autonomy (which are closely related).

As I advocated in Fighting God: always tell the truth. Whether we win or lose, we won’t do so on our knees, praying to a fake Jesus, wasting our breath on lies.


David Silverman is the former leader of both American Atheists and Atheist Alliance International and Creator of the 2012 Reason Rally. His book Fighting God was published in 2015.
 
Yet I suspect Mr Silverman would kvech if he's asked whether that means he's not a Jew. It's a hatred for Christ.
 
One question on the table is: would I have preferred for Christianity to remain strong today, effectively suppressing wokeism, even if that meant having never partook in this struggle?

No. We normalized atheism and substantially helped the LGBT Rights movement when they needed us. We did good, but we failed to comprehend the innate desire for people to be told what to do, or the power of the convergence of laziness, white guilt, and groupthink that is wokeism to provide the masses with such direction. The blame does not rest with those of us who fought, but with those for—and with—whom we fought. They failed to internalize the need for skepticism, which was the cornerstone of our fight for freedom. They have betrayed themselves.
Then you've learned nothing. Your arrogance denies you sight. You continue down a path where you cast all blame upon others when it was your own hand that threw the stone. Christians warned you all of this would happen and you scoffed. They told you the truth and you denied it despite all you preach for it.

Fuck off and die.
 
Who'd have guessed that if you try to kick the legs out from under an institution that provided a moral framework for a society, that society immediately goes to shit? Reddit-tier atheism was an invitation for a pack of mouth-breathing narcissists to make up the ten commandments on the fly, so this is what we got. Thou shalt not question the stunning and brave trans. Thou must reparation the BIPOC. If this imbecile expected divine enlightened souls to emerge and take the wheel in the place of religion, well, he's gotten what he deserves. Humans are fucking retarded, some of the entire point of religions is to impose social strictures on people so they don't tear each other apart in the street over a doughnut. There is absolutely a place to debate that religions have a significant downside in exchange for providing that framework for people, but these atheists are coming from a place of "fuck you making me go to Sunday school grandma" and are just ripping at things with no plan in mind for replacing them.
 
In our fervor, we metaphorically “killed God.” The atheist movement triumphed—God is on the decline and the tipping point has obviously been passed. Yay.
Lmao, you fags didn't kill God. The Enlightenment did that. You just e-twerked on His corpse for upboats.
 
Who'd have guessed that if you try to kick the legs out from under an institution that provided a moral framework for a society, that society immediately goes to shit? Reddit-tier atheism was an invitation for a pack of mouth-breathing narcissists to make up the ten commandments on the fly, so this is what we got. Thou shalt not question the stunning and brave trans. Thou must reparation the BIPOC. If this imbecile expected divine enlightened souls to emerge and take the wheel in the place of religion, well, he's gotten what he deserves. Humans are fucking retarded, some of the entire point of religions is to impose social strictures on people so they don't tear each other apart in the street over a doughnut. There is absolutely a place to debate that religions have a significant downside in exchange for providing that framework for people, but these atheists are coming from a place of "fuck you making me go to Sunday school grandma" and are just ripping at things with no plan in mind for replacing them.
Thats the problem with the left within much of the modern American west. They believe the solution to society is make more work for college educated elites and they can solve societies problems.
Atheists are very much of the left wing world view.
1. Humans are perfectable - this makes atheism very enticing to leftists. Because we don't need a god we can make man perfect.
2. Good and rational people in power will save the world. - ask Any atheist and they believe science will save us from climate change and more educated scientists in charge will save the world.
3. The future is progress - again atheists look at religion as a worldview stopping progress.
4. The only real things are material things - it's very simplistic thinking.
5. Inequality comes from oppression. - atheists will differ here as darwinian types believe oppression is part of nature.
6. Everyone is a blank slate - the belief from most of the Effing I love science euphoric atheistic types is we're all human minus superficial physical differences.
7. Cultural differences are arbitrary and can easily be transcended - the entire worldview of atheism is that we can move the entire world to a rational future.
8. Tradition holds us back - ask any atheist and they believe that tradition is why we never will advance and rants about Christian puritans for not allowing them to feel not guilty about loli anime.
9. It's wrong to judge someone by their results - atheists tend to make excuses for different groups.
10. Your loyalty is to humanity not your people - most atheists believe that you should care about the one human race even though it's a failure.

Now compare this to the Right wings inherent values.
1. Humans are inherently flawed
2. Power corrupts
3. It's possible to degrade back into barbarism
4. There is a god (if not in the literal term then figuratively)
5. Inequality is normal
6. Races, sexs, and classes are genetically different.
7. Cultural differences are important
8. tradition is valuable even if we don't understand why.
9. You can asses things by competency.
10. You have a loyalty to your groups over others.
Lmao, you fags didn't kill God. The Enlightenment did that. You just e-twerked on His corpse for upboats.
Nah, we had an enlightenment god that was murdered by internet atheism of the late 2000s and early 2010s. Gen Xers and Zoomies won't get it. But as a millennial I was there and quite frankly it came out of good intentions and like the road to hell it's paved with good intentions.
 
We normalized atheism
on the contrary, you stained atheism with deviant wokism
and substantially helped the LGBT Rights movement when they needed us.
aka pedos
We did good
orly

Atheists are very much of the left wing world view.
I can't speak for American denominations, but 8.5 out of 10 are the official position of the Russian Orthodox Church.

1. Humans are perfectable: through religious rites
2. Good and rational people in power will save the world: absolute obedience to authority you will never be a part of (unmarried monks)
3. The future is progress: by definition, everything happens as God wills
4. The only real things are material things: the only real things are material things AND our addons
5. Inequality comes from oppression. - atheists will differ here as darwinian types believe oppression is part of nature: ROC will agree with atheists, oppression is God's will
6. Everyone is a blank slate: we're all human, religion trumps everything, everyone is a blank slate which can be wiped clean over and over as needed
7. Cultural differences are arbitrary and can easily be transcended: every society should, must, better off christianized
8. Tradition holds us back: traditions are satanic and should be destroyed in favor of church doctrine
9. It's wrong to judge someone by their results: you must only judge by intentions
10. Your loyalty is to humanity not your people: your loyalty is to the church, not to your family or country
 
on the contrary, you stained atheism with deviant wokism

aka pedos

orly


I can't speak for American denominations, but 8.5 out of 10 are the official position of the Russian Orthodox Church.

1. Humans are perfectable: through religious rites
2. Good and rational people in power will save the world: absolute obedience to authority you will never be a part of (unmarried monks)
3. The future is progress: by definition, everything happens as God wills
4. The only real things are material things: the only real things are material things AND our addons
5. Inequality comes from oppression. - atheists will differ here as darwinian types believe oppression is part of nature: ROC will agree with atheists, oppression is God's will
6. Everyone is a blank slate: we're all human, religion trumps everything, everyone is a blank slate which can be wiped clean over and over as needed
7. Cultural differences are arbitrary and can easily be transcended: every society should, must, better off christianized
8. Tradition holds us back: traditions are satanic and should be destroyed in favor of church doctrine
9. It's wrong to judge someone by their results: you must only judge by intentions
10. Your loyalty is to humanity not your people: your loyalty is to the church, not to your family or country
The Russian Orthodox Church very much is the original liberation theology church. If you look at much of the modern atheist movement it is a natural extension from left wing Christianity.
 
absolute obedience to authority you will never be a part of (unmarried monks)
No one's stopping you from taking up the cloth. The monks worth listening to live hellish/brutal lives anyway

3. The future is progress
This is sophistry

4. The only real things are material things: the only real things are material things AND our addons
Wat

5. Inequality comes from oppression. -
Inequality and oppression come from man's fallen nature

6. Everyone is a blank slate
Along with the fact that everyone is born flawed

8. Tradition holds us back: traditions are satanic
Wat

Unless you mean pagan traditions, but even those are preserved/Christianized. Whether the ROC has had a good track record with preserving ancestral traditions is irrelevant, we're debating theory, not practice.

9. It's wrong to judge someone by their results: you must only judge by intentions
It's wrong for man to judge, period. And God will still make a distinction between a cannibal who makes a conscious effort to limit his homicidal tendencies over time, over a sped who kills ten million out of a false sense of self-righteousness. This is sophistry, again.

10. Your loyalty is to humanity not your people: your loyalty is to the church, not to your family or country
More sophistry. The Church isn't encouraging people to abandon their families and foresake their civic loyalties. Doing so would violate the Ten Commandments along with "render unto Caesar". It merely commands Christians to put distance between family members who prevent one from actively partaking in sacraments, and affirms that no Christian is a citizen of Earthly governments. Even then, the concept of "ouranopolitanism" is new and poorly understood, and it's foolish for laity to debate the ins and outs of it.

Thanks for making me sperg out 🧩
 
God is on the decline and the tipping point has obviously been passed. Yay.
What a faggot, I hope you die miserable.
As an activist, I envisioned a Scandinavian-style atheistic utopia taking shape in a post-religious country. I pictured a society where critical thought was prevalent, truth was prioritized, and autonomy and freedom were maximized because they were unburdened by manipulated information.
Time after time, Idealists destroy nations. Socialists and communists being the poster boys and gals of such retardness.
 
As an activist, I envisioned a Scandinavian-style atheistic utopia taking shape in a post-religious country. I pictured a society where critical thought was prevalent, truth was prioritized, and autonomy and freedom were maximized because they were unburdened by manipulated information. In my mind, we would never resemble the atheists of China, who were simply mandated to be atheists but not taught critical thought, resulting in a country filled with atheists who still believed in ghosts, voodoo, and lucky numbers. But this wasn’t our path, I reasoned, because we emphasized critical thought—the key distinction.

Star Trek ruined a whole generation of man
 
No. We normalized atheism and substantially helped the LGBT Rights movement when they needed us. We did good,
"We substantially helped the animal rights movement when they needed us. We did good." - Nazis.

He'd agree with that, right?

Yes, we did good, we did it well, and we won.
Yes, you already said that. Which of us are you trying to convince?
 
Man advocates for face-eating lions.

Is shocked when his face is eaten.

Sad, many such cases.
 
We are going to confiscate all new atheist children and baptize them in the name of the father Son and Holy Spirit and the force them at gunpoint to go to the most Fundamentalist
Protestant church we can find because most of them are Protestant I've never met an atheist Catholic or an atheist Orthodox Christian 95% of them are f****** Protestants are evangelicals
 
We may have subdued the lion of Christianity, but we failed to eradicate religion; we merely revealed that the lion might have been safeguarding us from the Woke Kraken.
About that whole 'subdued the lion of Christianity' bit, is this guy grandiose or what? What he and other atheists don't seem to grasp is that God's existence is not predicated on human belief. The Creator of the universe doesn't magically evaporate because people stop believing in Him. He might forsake a place where this has happened and allow it to devolve into the murderous, suicidal hellscape of carnage and existential despair it would be without Him--you know, like those Woke cities actively disintegrating as I write this, but He would still Be.

To the writer's credit, he does recognize Wokeism as a religion. Reading between the lines, I can also tell he's angry no one appears to recognize his greatness, which I find hilarious. Stay angry, little man. No one ever will.
 
We may have subdued the lion of Christianity, but we failed to eradicate religion; we merely revealed that the lion might have been safeguarding us from the Woke Kraken.
How it started: FUCK YOU CHRISTSCUM WE WILL ERADICATE YOU FROM THE EARTH.
How it's going: Plz help us Christians.

The blame does not rest with those of us who fought, but with those for—and with—whom we fought. They failed to internalize the need for skepticism,
SINNERS! You failed to become BORN AGAIN with hearts full of TRUTH and REASON!
 
Faggot tears down all of Chesterton's Fences because he didn't want Pat Robertson types telling him that jerking off to Furry Porn was evil. He also came of age during a time when the Internet made every Youtube fedoratipper with a katana and a copy of "The God That Wasn't There" seem like Bill Hicks. Anyone remember the whole Atheism Plus debacle? Neckbeards joined up, thinking becoming activists and "allies" would make them popular with feminists, only to find that even repulsive hamplanets with shriveled wombs and dyed armpit hair wouldn't sleep with them. Guys like MovieBob thought that dismantling Christianity would result in a planetwide orgy where every man would get more sex, but instead what happened was that men like MovieBob got less sex, as women flocked to the Gigachads, knowing that society would no longer hold their lack of restraint over their heads.

And now, with Christian Fundamentalism largely discredited and decoupled from political power (at least on a nationwide scale,) the Woke and their political enablers no longer have anything holding them back. The only major resistance they got was from Trump (who would have been considered a degenerate in any other era of history,) and even he isn't able to stop them. That collective "oh shit" you hear is from Atheists like the article writer who realize that modern Leftists are even crazier than 80's era Christian fundies, because (unlike the fundies,) they're not just grifters fleecing a flock while they're banging prostitutes on the side, they're true believers who will go all Maximillian Robespierre on anyone who disagrees with them. I'd feel sorry for David Shekelsman or whoever wrote the article, but I'm seriously hoping he's first into the cattle cars when the Wokites take over.
 
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