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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

  • Total voters
    1,073
Can we get back on track guys? I think everyone is a little gay for jay, but to varying degrees. It peaked somewhere between when he showed his feet in a beach HntB skit and when they dressed up as army soldiers from the future. However long hair covid jay saw the waning of gay4Jay culture, and current returning to his paunchy disheveled roots Jay might just kill off the movement entirely.

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Jay's hair is too perfect.
 

Geteven is getting released on Bluray.
 
I only got a few questions right, and oddly enough, they were all the exact same questions Jay got right. Even the Iggy Pop one, which I'd assume is pretty obscure?

While the new popularly understood theory which kael asserts the plain sanity of, is that a great master of expression will achieve unity in his works between intentions and content. There should not be an incongruence between the director's vision and the whole work.
What if the artist's intention IS to foster an incongruence between his vision and the whole work? Can he do so?

What if the artist deliberately limits his vision, in order to ensure unity between intentions and content? If I hand you a blank page, and tell you my intention was to draw an invisible polar bear, does that qualify me as a great master of expression?

Or what if the incongruence between an artist's vision and the whole work happens to be exactly what elevates the work to the level of the sublime? Is anyone truly interested in defending a theory that suggests neither Ed Wood, nor Neil Breen, nor CWC, are great masters of expression?


Also, bit of an epistemological side question: how does one determine authorial intent? Really determine intent, get right inside the author's head before he commits the work, in order to see the vision exactly as it was?
Is it ever possible to do this? And if it is not possible, then under the theory you propose, can we ever really ever say anything meaningful, with a reasonable degree of confidence, about an artist's mastery of expression?
It seems to me that this theory would make the evaluation of an artist inaccessible to anyone save (maybe) the artist himself, and would mean that artistic greatness is something we can only ever guess at. And if that is the case, why even bother with sophisticated criticism at all? You're just guessing, and we have no way of evaluating whether your analysis is sound.
 
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I only got a few questions right, and oddly enough, they were all the exact same questions Jay got right. Even the Iggy Pop one, which I'd assume is pretty obscure?
I just guessed the first big punk star that came to mind. The Whoopi Goldberg one was easy because they've shown clips of her ST character a few times over the years.

Other than those I don't think there were any you could get with blind guessing.
 
Can we get back on track guys? I think everyone is a little gay for jay, but to varying degrees. It peaked somewhere between when he showed his feet in a beach HntB skit and when they dressed up as army soldiers from the future. However long hair covid jay saw the waning of gay4Jay culture, and current returning to his paunchy disheveled roots Jay might just kill off the movement entirely.

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I still want to know if that Jay memoir is real. I feel like it could breathe new life into the Jay discourse.
 
Watched Army of the Dead last night-- it was yet another frustrating Zack Snyder movie. lol. Lots of good ideas, but the movie is pretty much all over the place to the point where he doesn't utilize his own fun premise to its potential. There's definitely a reason why the opening credits are generating the most buzz surrounding the movie: It is by far the best part of the entire movie and basically the only scene that actually utilizes Las Vegas as its setting. And it's too fucking long-- there's absolutely zero justification for its runtime. That said, I didn't hate it with every fiber of my being, though. I mostly enjoyed it despite obviously seeing how flawed and haphazard the movie is. There's enough cool looking zombies and enough fun gore to make it a mostly fun movie to check out once. Snyder has to have ADD or something ... This is yet another movie of his that lacks focus (and this one LITERALLY lacks focus-- the cinematography was a little obnoxious here).

Looks like the Dawn of the Dead remake is still my favorite Zack Snyder movie.

I hated the ending to the movie. Absolutely despised it. Why make a 5-10 minute sequence of one of the characters surviving the nuke blast by being locked in the safe only to reveal that he got bit and is going to die anyway? If the movie wanted to end on a note where the virus has crossed the Vegas border, then why not just have Bautista's character not get killed by his daughter? It would have been infinitely more clever to have the main protagonist of the movie become the next Zombie King (or whatever you call it), and it would get the point across without tacking on some extra several minutes to the movie.

When the one dude climbed out of the safe, I was like "Yo, he has all the money-- that's hilarious. Oh! And he's renting a plane! Is he going to fly to the Japanese dude's mansion to beat the shit out of him? Because that would actually be pretty funny!" And then ... Nothing. I felt like the movie was setting up a punchline or something, and then it gave us nothing. So, so lame.

Right after I watched the movie, I watched the Half in the Bag review. Jay's feelings towards the movie are pretty much exactly how I feel. And I also picked up on the moments that were ripping off Aliens while watching the movie, so I cracked up when Mike and Jay pointed all of that out, too.
 
Watched Army of the Dead last night-- it was yet another frustrating Zack Snyder movie. lol. Lots of good ideas, but the movie is pretty much all over the place to the point where he doesn't utilize his own fun premise to its potential. There's definitely a reason why the opening credits are generating the most buzz surrounding the movie: It is by far the best part of the entire movie and basically the only scene that actually utilizes Las Vegas as its setting. And it's too fucking long-- there's absolutely zero justification for its runtime. That said, I didn't hate it with every fiber of my being, though. I mostly enjoyed it despite obviously seeing how flawed and haphazard the movie is. There's enough cool looking zombies and enough fun gore to make it a mostly fun movie to check out once. Snyder has to have ADD or something ... This is yet another movie of his that lacks focus (and this one LITERALLY lacks focus-- the cinematography was a little obnoxious here).

Looks like the Dawn of the Dead remake is still my favorite Zack Snyder movie.

I hated the ending to the movie. Absolutely despised it. Why make a 5-10 minute sequence of one of the characters surviving the nuke blast by being locked in the safe only to reveal that he got bit and is going to die anyway? If the movie wanted to end on a note where the virus has crossed the Vegas border, then why not just have Bautista's character not get killed by his daughter? It would have been infinitely more clever to have the main protagonist of the movie become the next Zombie King (or whatever you call it), and it would get the point across without tacking on some extra several minutes to the movie.

When the one dude climbed out of the safe, I was like "Yo, he has all the money-- that's hilarious. Oh! And he's renting a plane! Is he going to fly to the Japanese dude's mansion to beat the shit out of him? Because that would actually be pretty funny!" And then ... Nothing. I felt like the movie was setting up a punchline or something, and then it gave us nothing. So, so lame.

Right after I watched the movie, I watched the Half in the Bag review. Jay's feelings towards the movie are pretty much exactly how I feel. And I also picked up on the moments that were ripping off Aliens while watching the movie, so I cracked up when Mike and Jay pointed all of that out, too.
I feel like Snyder's movies would be improved by 1000% if he just found the right editor.
 
Zack Snyder is so frustrating because I don't think the man is talentless ... And I see the potential in a lot of his movies. It's just that he needs a team of people to help refine his ideas.

All of the ideas he came up with for Army of the Dead? Love them! Love the Vegas setting, love that he wanted to do a heist movie, love the look of the zombies and the fact that they've organized their own society/kingdom and aren't mindless, etc. It's just that none of these ideas were fleshed out properly despite there being an almost 3-hour runtime. That's crazy.
 
I'll say it again, he needs an offsider he trusts to just slap him whenever an idea goes too far. There's a bit of George Lucas in there, where there is some undeniable talent, but the man is just weird, possibly a bit autistic, and doesn't know when to stop. I like 2/3rds of the things he does in any given film, but the man ruins his own hard work practically every time. Too heavy handed with his symbolism, leans into the genres so much that it almost feels like he's parodying it, and he drags things out too long. Almost every issue he has is a case of just going 20% too far with something.
 
Zack Snyder is so frustrating because I don't think the man is talentless ... And I see the potential in a lot of his movies. It's just that he needs a team of people to help refine his ideas.

All of the ideas he came up with for Army of the Dead? Love them! Love the Vegas setting, love that he wanted to do a heist movie, love the look of the zombies and the fact that they've organized their own society/kingdom and aren't mindless, etc. It's just that none of these ideas were fleshed out properly despite there being an almost 3-hour runtime. That's crazy.
heard the movie was awful watched the zombiesins for it and it looked fucking retarded
 
heard the movie was awful watched the zombiesins for it and it looked fucking retarded
The movie is dumb, and it's not nearly as cool as it was advertised to be.

... But I didn't hate it, overall. I wasn't miserable watching it. And to quote Mike, "I judge movies based on whether or not I'm miserable."

I didn't regret watching it, and there's some fun gory moments especially if you're into zombie shoot-em-up video games. There are much worse movies out there right now. I won't be revisiting the movie anytime soon, though. It doesn't deserve to be seen more than once, and you're honestly not missing out if you decide to never watch it.
 
Saw it on the weekend and was bored for 90% of the runtime. Too long, badly paced, boring characters, zombies sucked, inconsistent tone. Wasted Dillahunt and Sanada in worthless roles. The German locksmith was tolerable at first and then became obnoxious real quick. I liked his friendship with the black guy though. Hated the daughter sub-plot and it felt like the conversation they had where Bautista was going on about sandwiches lasted for an hour.

Also, no one has mentioned this but am I crazy:

1. During the sandwich conversation didn't the daughter fuck up closing the grate after they established that it was probably where zombies got in earlier? Like, they show here trying to close it and then not noticing a limb blocking it from latching? And that never came up again?

2. All that bullshit at the end when the daughter decides to go commando and rescue the refugees all on her lonesome and manages to save one and then the last we see are them on the helicopter but the rescued woman has just... disappeared? Did I miss her falling out the helicopter or something?

I don't really mind Snyder at all but this movie was awful. I have a high tolerance for crap but even this pushed my limits. Total waste of a stupid and fun premise. Smart zombies were a mistake. RLM was pretty soft on it. Notaro only escaped because her sarcastic dyke schtick made it appear like she was on the audience's team going, "Yeah we know this is shit, just try to enjoy it okay?"
 
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