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[biscuitscilia]

Kael went to war with a particular nonsensical past formulation of auteur theory which nobody now recalls when they hear the term, because it was completely retarded and Kael rightly pointed out that it was stupid

She would have thought Snyder was a talentless hack and that his films were dogshit because she had essentially the same views on capeshit as Tarkovsky. Well made and fun but not art.

As for Tarkovsky, the line in question means nothing because i can simply respond that tarkovsky was a bitter old nerd.

So then he's not like Snyder, which was your question
This is some well-made bait.

 

[BScCollateral]

If any of you want to get a real hit in you're running out of time.

Dude, you think Snyder makes good movies. Nobody could make you look dumber than that.

 

[Scarmiglione]

Explain again why any of us should care about your opinions or behavior?

Because by watching people who claim to be film fans, if not critics even, you are implicitly interested in film and art. I don't believe you are, but at least a few of you must believe this about yourselves. By engaging with my ideas you can self-test these notions you hold about yourselves and the particular works of art in question. But you won't for the same reason you like RLM. You hate challenge. You don't seek aesthetic experiences out of life. You seek anaesthetic ones. You want to feel less. You prefer to live less fully than is likely within your power. You seek to be less human than you could be. This is how we coined the term subhuman.

By your own standards of greatness you're less than a nobody.

By my own standards of greatness I am not a wretch, which is the main thing. I am not out of touch with my own joys and desires. I am able to live more fully than most people. My pleasures might be small next to the pyramids. But they're real and relatively quite pure by the standards of our degenerate age.

The replies are getting dumber. The thought of replying feels less interesting every time. My ideas have been given form and your degeneracy has lost its novelty to me. Holidays to new forums are fun sometimes but there's no place like home. Back to /tv/ soon.

 

[BScCollateral]

Back to /tv/ soon.

Good; leaving here you'll raise the average IQ of two different boards.

 

[Oh Shit I'm Sorry]

Because by watching people who claim to be film fans, if not critics even, you are implicitly interested in film and art. I don't believe you are, but at least a few of you must believe this about yourselves. By engaging with my ideas you can self-test these notions you hold about yourselves and the particular works of art in question. But you won't for the same reason you like RLM. You hate challenge. You don't seek aesthetic experiences out of life. You seek anaesthetic ones. You want to feel less. You prefer to live less fully than is likely within your power. You seek to be less human than you could be. This is how we coined the term subhuman.


By my own standards of greatness I am not a wretch, which is the main thing. I am not out of touch with my own joys and desires. I am able to live more fully than most people. My pleasures might be small next to the pyramids. But they're real and relatively quite pure by the standards of our degenerate age.

The replies are getting dumber. The thought of replying feels less interesting every time. My ideas have been given form and your degeneracy has lost its novelty to me. Holidays to new forums are fun sometimes but there's no place like home. Back to /tv/ soon.

"In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because I enjoy Zack Snyder movies"

 

[HumanHive]

Because by watching people who claim to be film fans, if not critics even, you are implicitly interested in film and art. I don't believe you are, but at least a few of you must believe this about yourselves. By engaging with my ideas you can self-test these notions you hold about yourselves and the particular works of art in question. But you won't for the same reason you like RLM. You hate challenge. You don't seek aesthetic experiences out of life. You seek anaesthetic ones. You want to feel less. You prefer to live less fully than is likely within your power. You seek to be less human than you could be. This is how we coined the term subhuman.


By my own standards of greatness I am not a wretch, which is the main thing. I am not out of touch with my own joys and desires. I am able to live more fully than most people. My pleasures might be small next to the pyramids. But they're real and relatively quite pure by the standards of our degenerate age.

The replies are getting dumber. The thought of replying feels less interesting every time. My ideas have been given form and your degeneracy has lost its novelty to me. Holidays to new forums are fun sometimes but there's no place like home. Back to /tv/ soon.

Don’t “back to /tv/ soon” us, you little cuck.
Just fucking leave.

 

[Flexo]

Because by watching people who claim to be film fans, if not critics even, you are implicitly interested in film and art. I don't believe you are, but at least a few of you must believe this about yourselves. By engaging with my ideas you can self-test these notions you hold about yourselves and the particular works of art in question. But you won't for the same reason you like RLM. You hate challenge. You don't seek aesthetic experiences out of life. You seek anaesthetic ones. You want to feel less. You prefer to live less fully than is likely within your power. You seek to be less human than you could be. This is how we coined the term subhuman.


By my own standards of greatness I am not a wretch, which is the main thing. I am not out of touch with my own joys and desires. I am able to live more fully than most people. My pleasures might be small next to the pyramids. But they're real and relatively quite pure by the standards of our degenerate age.

The replies are getting dumber. The thought of replying feels less interesting every time. My ideas have been given form and your degeneracy has lost its novelty to me. Holidays to new forums are fun sometimes but there's no place like home. Back to /tv/ soon.

Worthless meatbag utters a lot of words to say nothing. You've already established how meaningless you are, no going back on it.

You just mad Synder will never make anything this great.

 

[Mola Ram]

"In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because I enjoy Zack Snyder movies"

Zack Snyder fandom, especially as exemplified by this peculiar specimen here, is strongly reminiscent of those people who became flat-earthers at first out of irony and a desire to stick it to the establishment ... but gradually came to really believe the Earth is flat.

 

[GhostButt]

Zack Snyder fandom, especially as exemplified by this peculiar specimen here, is strongly reminiscent of those people who became flat-earthers at first out of irony and a desire to stick it to the establishment ... but gradually came to really believe the Earth is flat.

It's as flat as your mom's flapjack tits, and even I know Snyder is a hack.

 

[PenguinSuitAlice]

Mike voice acted in this unfunny Cyanide and Happiness animated short.

 

[Stasi]

I see the sped is still here huh? If this is some troll attempt its a bit embarassing because its unfunny and cringe and no one is biting. If this guy is serious its just incredibly sad because he is a drooling low IQ retard.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I see the sped is still here huh? If this is some troll attempt its a bit embarassing because its unfunny and cringe and no one is biting. If this guy is serious its just incredibly sad because he is a drooling low IQ retard.

I'd say it's a little bit of Column A and a little bit of Column B.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

The rest of you are too stupid to bother with. Note that in other threads i'm not like this.

Note that in other threads nobody's like this.

 

[X Pac Heat]

Damn, can this shit get featured? This guy is a sperg but everyone falling for the troll is pretty enjoyable as well.

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

The RLM hack frauds as cute anime girls is about as "me" a thing can get lol.

As if Jay hasn't been veering into pure Bishounen territory for the last 8 years.

 

[knobslobbin]

Can we get back on track guys? I think everyone is a little gay for jay, but to varying degrees. It peaked somewhere between when he showed his feet in a beach HntB skit and when they dressed up as army soldiers from the future. However long hair covid jay saw the waning of gay4Jay culture, and current returning to his paunchy disheveled roots Jay might just kill off the movement entirely.

Discuss

 

[Flexo]

Can we get back on track guys? I think everyone is a little gay for jay, but to varying degrees. It peaked somewhere between when he showed his feet in a beach HntB skit and when they dressed up as army soldiers from the future. However long hair covid jay saw the waning of gay4Jay culture, and current returning to his paunchy disheveled roots Jay might just kill off the movement entirely.

Discuss

It's not gay if it's his anime girl version!

 

[Dom Cruise]

I love an excuse to write at length about something i care about so let's go again. I'm not disgusted with all of you this time for a change.

Spoiler: First reply. I don't actually hate this person.

You like Sucker Punch? There might be hope for you yet. Your actual comments on the film bear the taint of bug-think, but the baseline of enjoyment is something. Your soul has a pulse! The film's "story" if you want to call the surface narrative that, the part we get in the wikipedia synopsis, is not weak. It's light. It's light because this is a piece of film art, when we have the power to control the flow of sound, picture, time and motion we can do things that are so much more interesting than blunt portrayals of a series of things happening to some people. Sucker Punch really goes out of its way to tell you that it's a work in which struggles are shown in varying scales and that what you see stands for more than what's right in front of you. What do you think was the point of the dance numbers fading into phantasy? It was Snyder's deliberate attempt at shaking you out of this unperceptive stupor. Give you the opportunity to realise for yourself "oh hey the events on screen aren't literally what's happening but if i look close and think i can see the more grounded and sensible struggle being represented within this greater one." That's what the entire film is about. That's what Snyder's entire filmography is about. That's what myths and epics are about.

The lady-doctor attempts to heal her patients through performance. Work through your issues performatively. The film is directly telling you that it's the struggle of damaged girls represented through phantasy caricature, perhaps the point is sincere healing, perhaps it's cynically exploitative, perhaps it's both. You're free to decide about the intentions of both the character and Snyder. Who is Snyder in this film? The sympathetic doctor out to survive, the controlling master out to dominate? Maybe he's self-awarely suggesting to you that he could be either. These are the two competing impulses behind putting on the great show. They fight behind the scenes, but we're only supposed to see the finished product. And like the marks who contribute to the liberation of our heroines most of us are too caught up in the superficial right in front of us elements to see the real substantial action.

The damaged souls of American womandom being worked through snyder's self-aware audiovisual psychoanalytic wringer. That is Sucker Punch. You can think it's deranged, retarded, autistic, whatever, but it is not simple. You only perceived an excuse to have hot chicks do cool things, you're the dance audience. You saw a fraction of the story and felt so content that that's all there was that you wrote this post and shared it with the whole internet. "pretty weak and literally just an excuse to have hot chicks do cool things." That's your reading. But again, it's redeemable. You're at least partially right. The work is pretty unique.

And RLM aren't cynical, they're downright nihilistic. I am cynical. I have hard values, I have been made harsh by experience. I believe that what is good will if not aggressively championed, perish. RLM by contrast want everything good to perish.

Spoiler: Second, I hate this post at least, but maybe the author can be salvaged. Stranger things have happened.

This is you: https://youtube.com/watch?v=H6_eqxh-Qok
This invincible ignorance that refuses to entertain the idea that it is ignorance. This spirit of "what i see does not impress me, and what i see is all there is". This is how a spiteful bug thinks about art. You appeal to power rather than aesthetics and hope to put yourself above the artist by creating arbitrary rules and technicalities on which he can be caught out on. Nothing you have written here is more substantial than "too many notes". This is what happens when you make a habit of listening to the babble of fat former wedding photographers for so long that you convince yourself this is all there is to appreciating art. Did you actually think this was anything but pure babble when you were writing it? Did you look it over before posting? Let's try to discern your main points against the film.

- it's not a good movie.
- shallow and vapid
- rips off a ton of shit left and right (ripping off is not and never has been a real problem or criticism. It's something retards say to strike out when they have nothing solid. It feels solid because it takes the form of a rule, that doesn't give it legitimacy though.)
- characters are retarded (everyone and their actions actions stand for more than what's happening right in front of you. But at the same time i feel like this doesn't matter because the film does a fine job of working as a surface level action narrative. I'm sure nothing makes sense if approached with as big a chip on your shoulder as the one you brought into this movie.)
- jokes go on too long and just get annoying (whatever, i wasn't bothered by the humour. Probably a safe bet that in at least one of these overlong scenes you just missed most of the substance. "Too many notes!")
- the action is usually a confused mess of stupid, when it's not insulting (again, events are more than they appear to be and don't offend those who don't want to be offended. This means nothing.)
- plotholes and magic plot (how did you survive the weight of this mother of all chips on your shoulder for over two hours?)
- Basically, it's incompetently made. ("basically incompetent" declares kiwifarms user 'MembersSchoolPizza'. "modestly fun", but "all so incompetently handled." Better luck next time Mister Snyder, it's clear you've failed as a filmmaker this time.)

I could properly rip into you here but instead i'll just ask you to sincerely consider the possibility that you don't actually enjoy film. Also seriously consider not posting on the subject anymore. Your lack of enthusiasm can be observed rubbing off on others within this thread.

The rest of you are too stupid to bother with. Note that in other threads i'm not like this.

Dude, I'm someone who prior to Man of Steel could have been described as a full on Zack Snyder fan and even I'm laughing at your takes on him.

I saw what he was trying to say with Sucker Punch, it's still not as deep as you think it is, he makes, or at least used to make, entertaining movies, his attempts at deepness fall flat.

What I liked about Sucker Punch was it was the last hurrah for 2000s culture, the last time American media made something where hot chicks kicked ass, before they started going out of their way to make female characters as sexually unappealing as possible (ala Captain Marvel), it made all the sense in the world when I learned that despite the movie coming out in 2011 it was filmed in 2009.

I would like more Half in the Bags, tbh.

I'm especially curious to hear their thoughts on Nobody, which I enjoyed far more than I expected to, and Mortal Kombat, just because of how Jay feels about the 90s version.

I wish they did an episode on MK as well.

 

[draggs]

Because by watching people who claim to be film fans, if not critics even, you are implicitly interested in film and art. I don't believe you are, but at least a few of you must believe this about yourselves. By engaging with my ideas you can self-test these notions you hold about yourselves and the particular works of art in question. But you won't for the same reason you like RLM. You hate challenge. You don't seek aesthetic experiences out of life. You seek anaesthetic ones. You want to feel less. You prefer to live less fully than is likely within your power. You seek to be less human than you could be. This is how we coined the term subhuman.


By my own standards of greatness I am not a wretch, which is the main thing. I am not out of touch with my own joys and desires. I am able to live more fully than most people. My pleasures might be small next to the pyramids. But they're real and relatively quite pure by the standards of our degenerate age.

The replies are getting dumber. The thought of replying feels less interesting every time. My ideas have been given form and your degeneracy has lost its novelty to me. Holidays to new forums are fun sometimes but there's no place like home. Back to /tv/ soon.

Your prose is awful and that alone disqualifies your opinion regarding anything

 

[FernandoPooTragedy]

Can we get back on track guys? I think everyone is a little gay for jay, but to varying degrees. It peaked somewhere between when he showed his feet in a beach HntB skit and when they dressed up as army soldiers from the future. However long hair covid jay saw the waning of gay4Jay culture, and current returning to his paunchy disheveled roots Jay might just kill off the movement entirely.

Discuss

Nah, nah, among my crew losing Long hair Jay was a tragedy.


That fan art of them as anime girls is actually a few years old. Let's say what needs to be said:

Anyways, I refused to read all that post "RLM hates auteurs" except for the part where he quoted me saying I like movies and replying "No you don't", which got a genuine chuckle out of me, I'll admit. I think I may be one of the only people in the universe who neither thinks of Snyder as a genius ubermensch single-handedly preserving cinema away from those evil Disney stooges or a completely talentless, witless hack, or a an evil fascist. The culture war over him is obnoxious and toxic af and almost never has anything to do with actual movies. I don't blame people who call his fandom a cult. Unfortunately, the people usually doing that are pretty cultlike in their hatred of him as well. Meanwhile, it's like, "He makes zombie and comic book movies with varying results. Calm your tits."

But this shit isn't even the weirdest thing about his fandom to me. Dudebros replacing a personality with liking edgy punch stuff and trying to treat it like the zenith of artistic integrity are nothing new or particularly interesting. The weirdest thing is the #RestoreTheSnyderverse people. They go on and on about loving Snyder and how much WB treated him like dirt, and I'm like, "Yeah! That whole situation was downright abusive and according to Snyder they still won't stop taking passive-aggressive swipes at him. SO WHY DO YOU WANT HIM TO KEEP MAKING WB MONEY???" These idiots will rant about EVIL CORPORATE MOUSE and demand more of Snyder making more movies for the stooges who literally exploited his daughter's suicide to mimic said EVIL CORPORATE MOUSE without even the slightest trace of irony or self-awareness.

Have the hack frauds ever discussed House of the Devil? I like throwback films a lot. That one and The Love Witch are my particular favorites of that little movement. The graininess of Army of the Dead appealed to me at first but it got old quickly and I feel like it wasn't utilized for any deeper purpose other than "looks fun." It reminds me of how Snyder said he chose 4:3 for JL because he loved "First Cow." And I can't really think of a movie less like Justice League than "First Cow." There are a lot of these references in Snyder's stuff that just make me go, "That's nice, Dear." in ways that I don't do with other stylized films/filmmakers.