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I don't understand how Mike can make a premise of two dolls just staring at each other for 90 minutes (or so) sound so appealing.
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Bauman's disbelief over the plot of Brahms: The Boy II is one of the greatest parts of this. From what was shown, The Boy II despite it's studio-gloss gives off the same wavelengths as one of those bargain basement "in name only" horror sequels released directly to video in the Nineties.
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I think the main issue with the Universal Monsters is the same thing that made them go out of style in the mid-20th century: Mankind outpaced their horror with its own. World War 2 and Nuclear Weapons showed that mankind could be as bad as any monster. Then you have a lack of religiousity and the rise of Cosmic Horror which made creatures who feared silver bullets and crosses seem trite. Aliens seemed a lot more realistic than vampires- after all, there was a real chance that they could exist and odds were good that they would be as warlike and violent as humans. Gothic, Victorian style monsters were seen as a throwback as early as the 1950s. Hammer Films only managed to modernize them by throwing in blood and cleavage, then sex and gore, until even their stuff seemed tame and overused. Nowadays, you can make a vampire film, but you have to fit it within current genres - making it a harlequin romance, filling it with wokeness and politics, or subverting it by making Dracula an antihero who's trying to free humankind from the shackles of an oppressive killjoy God because Hollywood isn't even trying to hide its Luciferianism anymore.
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I actually quite liked Boy 2. It reminded me more of Sinister
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I'm completely shocked that that's the direction they would take for The Boy II.
I almost spit my drink out of my nose though when Mike said that the Brahms vs Annabelle movie would end with a Rage Against The Machine song, that was hilarious.
I think there's definitely still horror to be mined from vampire and werewolves given their roots in very old folklore, there's something very primal about the ideas.
But I think it's Frankenstein that has been exhausted for horror, the whole thing has been parodied so much that it's hard to imagine Frankenstein genuinely being scary again.
Also, it creeps me out how obvious people in the media are with Luciferianism these days.
I almost spit my drink out of my nose though when Mike said that the Brahms vs Annabelle movie would end with a Rage Against The Machine song, that was hilarious.
I think there's definitely still horror to be mined from vampire and werewolves given their roots in very old folklore, there's something very primal about the ideas.
But I think it's Frankenstein that has been exhausted for horror, the whole thing has been parodied so much that it's hard to imagine Frankenstein genuinely being scary again.
Also, it creeps me out how obvious people in the media are with Luciferianism these days.
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Has the movie Excalibur ever been featured? I feel sure either that or a similar film was covered,but I can't find it.
In my head they watched it and were surprised by how good it was, saying it didn't even qualify as bad?
As far as I know, no-one even really thinks it's a bad film, and it's too well-known in a culty way for it to end up on the board with no-one realizing, so I'm inclined to think I'm thinking of a different film?
In my head they watched it and were surprised by how good it was, saying it didn't even qualify as bad?
As far as I know, no-one even really thinks it's a bad film, and it's too well-known in a culty way for it to end up on the board with no-one realizing, so I'm inclined to think I'm thinking of a different film?
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So far as I know they have never mentioned either Excalibur or John Boorman. I don't think they've ever even made a Zardoz reference, though that's the likeliest Boorman film they'd discuss.
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A friend of mine recommended that to me about 2 weeks before he died. The movie has that little bit more specialness for me but it's easily the best take on the King Arthur legend. Also the first movie to brilliantly use O Fortuna before it got parodied to death.
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Silly me, I forgot about Exorcist II: The Heretic. But then I'm sure Boorman would like us all to forget it.
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Regarding the Universal Monsters:
Dracula, Wolfman and Invisible Man can be modernized easily and they have been, many many times.
We never even got the Bram Stoker's version of Dracula, that one is really creepy and would definitely work.
The Mummy is a remnant of the old era and, like Mike said, the monster itself is a creation of old school racism.
I think that one can fuck off.
Frankenstein would need some reworking, make it more like Re-Animator because otherwise, it's just a drama.
Creature from the Black Lagoon can be nothing more than a sleazy monster gore fest but there's a market for that, provided that we get a completely new design (the old one is garbage). The design from Monster Squad is pretty good:
Dracula, Wolfman and Invisible Man can be modernized easily and they have been, many many times.
We never even got the Bram Stoker's version of Dracula, that one is really creepy and would definitely work.
The Mummy is a remnant of the old era and, like Mike said, the monster itself is a creation of old school racism.
I think that one can fuck off.
Frankenstein would need some reworking, make it more like Re-Animator because otherwise, it's just a drama.
Creature from the Black Lagoon can be nothing more than a sleazy monster gore fest but there's a market for that, provided that we get a completely new design (the old one is garbage). The design from Monster Squad is pretty good:
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This is really fucking good:
John Frankensteiner on Twitter
“William Friedkin roasting the shit out of The Exorcist II, then gleefully telling a story about the first disastrous screening. https://t.co/VFXBaKttqP”
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I can't even think of any fantasy movies they covered in BotW except for Deathstalker and Yor.
A b-movie similar to Excalibur would be Magic Sword but MST3k covered that one (and ended up liking it) not RLM.
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SFDebris reviewed Zardoz
and in the background IIRC he brought up that Boorman wanted to make Lord of the Rings and ended up using the development he did on it to make Excalibur.
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You could adapt Dracula as a modern day book-faithful adaptation by having it as a webseries, and it's told through vlogs. The book was written as a collection of letters/diary entries, so in that sense it'd work? They could do it like that lesbian vampire webseries from a few years back
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I would like to see a TV series. Every episode could be narrated by a different character like the chapters in the book.
The show that's coming soon about a bisexual Dracula sounds super cringe.
Dracula in the book wasn't interested in sex, humans were food to him, that never made it into any Dracula adaptation, they always try to give him a love interest.
There is a movie coming soon called The Last Voyage of Demeter about the ship which transported Dracula from Transylvania to England. It's directed by the guy who made Autopsy of Jane Doe which is very good so I'm optimistic about it.
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There's absolutely erotic themes in Dracula, and him turning Lucy into a vampire is very much a seduction. But I'd agree that actual sex and an actual relationship isn't very Dracula. He sees humans as pawns (and food) to use and then discard when their usefulness runs out. It's only when Van Helsing & Co. piss him off that he actually gives a shit about them (though he does have a sadistic streak before that).
I actually liked the BBC/Netflix adaptation until they pulled that relationship shit in the final episode.
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Boorman's treatment of Lord of the Rings is bonkers. He tried to do the whole thing in one film (understandable, since no one was really considering doing a multifilm epic back then, particularly not for a genre picture), and the compression is unbearable. Arwen is a young teenager for some reason, sort of a virginal symbol. Hilariously, a lot of his weird sexual imagery comes out to play, mostly around Galadriel -- she's presented as this ideal lust goddess who inspires the Fellowship to do shit to impress her: Boromir strikes Mr. Olympia poses, Legolas starts spouting poetry, etc. And Gimli delivers the greatest Middle-earth line ever that wasn't written by Tolkien: "She's a mighty piece of stone for a dwarfish tool to carve!"
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Wait, where did you hear all of this because I'm dying to know more.
Well I'm totally stealing that next time I go cruising for floozies.
Well I'm totally stealing that next time I go cruising for floozies.