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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%
  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%
  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%
  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%
  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%
  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%
  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%
  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%
  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%
  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%

  • Total voters
    1,073
Although I will admit I really am glad they retired Pre:Rec as that was making me dislike Rich a bit, I really did wonder why he was even bothering and wasting everyone's time since he hated modern video games so much, but the fact that he did decide to stop wasting everyone's time earned back whatever respect he had lost from me on it.

I am absolutely not Mr. Blue Sky over here. But I do believe Rich came to the same conclusion as stated in their closing video.
 
Uuuugh... Pre:Rec... i tried to like it, but no. in fact, piss drunk Jack "playing" Metroid was Matei's drunken Mario let's play shit-tier. Only liked the squidman game when Mike and Jay joined in.
The episode with them trying to play New Vegas was the only RLM thing I've ever turned off in anger.
 
Nobody clipped it so I can't pull it up off the top of my head, but there was one moment in some episode where Mike said to Rich and Jack's faces: "I always knew the Rec in Pre:Rec stood for Rectum!"

Their finest moment as a consolation prize:

 
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Which one of you did this lol
 
I didn't really bother with Pre-Rec that much but there was some gold in there like the Uncharted 4 video where Rich falls asleep because of how fucking boring those games are and I enjoyed Rich's attempts at a perfect level 1 Dead Rising run.

And The Order 1886 video was legendary.
 
And The Order 1886 video was legendary.

That's kind of faint praise since The Order 1886 was legendary enough on its own as a complete failure that everyone ripped completely to shreds. Its like some kind of artifact from a fantasy setting that imbues everything in proximity to it with legendary power.
 
Don't misunderstand me, you have no idea how much I love these guys and how much their videos mean to me.

I'm just stating a few times I disagreed with their opinions, but it's not that big of a deal, I can forgive them.

Although I will admit I really am glad they retired Pre:Rec as that was making me dislike Rich a bit, I really did wonder why he was even bothering and wasting everyone's time since he hated modern video games so much, but the fact that he did decide to stop wasting everyone's time earned back whatever respect he had lost from me on it.

He's free to feel however he wants about games, just don't waste everyone's times with videos where almost every single one of them is you saying you don't like the game, there's no point in that.

To be fair though, one of Rich's favorite games is Dead Rising, right? That's one of my all time favorite games too, so at least we have that in common.



Yeah, once in a blue moon, but it seemed like the vast majority of games they reviewed they were dismissive of at best if not outright hostile to at worst.



The worst moment for me was their Quantum Break review, which I haven't even played, maybe it isn't great, but the way Rich so callously dismissed the game as "you pop up and go boom boom!", think of all the hard work the developers put into the game, said developers being Remedy who have made great games in the past and he acts like it's a piece of dogshit on the sole of his shoe, it came off as way, way too mean spirited, even frankly kind of disgusting.

But let's not dwell on the negative though, all is forgiven.
One thing I like the most about RLM is that while they will objectively say that things are good or bad at times, they also leave plenty of room for subjective opinion, and they're never afraid to have really weird opinions. They've defended some pretty schlocky dumpster fires, like Independence Day: Resurgence, and criticized movies that their fanbases were drooling over.

Most importantly, barring some absolute shit movies, I don't think they would ever get their panties in a wad if someone disagreed with their assessments. They don't come across as people whose egos depend on others agreeing that they so smart and special and right and never ever really wrong. You wouldn't get snooty hours long MauLerlike Twitter rebuttal from these drunk assholes.
 
Just like I don't watch Top Gear or Grand Tour for car reviews I don't really watch RLM for movie reviews, but for the humor, banter and chemistry between the hosts.
 
One thing I like the most about RLM is that while they will objectively say that things are good or bad at times, they also leave plenty of room for subjective opinion, and they're never afraid to have really weird opinions. They've defended some pretty schlocky dumpster fires, like Independence Day: Resurgence, and criticized movies that their fanbases were drooling over.

Most importantly, barring some absolute shit movies, I don't think they would ever get their panties in a wad if someone disagreed with their assessments. They don't come across as people whose egos depend on others agreeing that they so smart and special and right and never ever really wrong. You wouldn't get snooty hours long MauLerlike Twitter rebuttal from these drunk assholes.

Its weird that the greatest movie reviewers of our age are a bunch of drunk, fat midwesterners who all clearly suffer from intense depression (yeah, even Jay. Listen to the fact that he laughs at everything. Mike takes a shot at him over it in some recent episode but Jay seriously gives the Joker a run for his money).

Which, by the way, I've been meaning to make this point for like ten pages, but I don't even hate any of their supporting cast. When I rewatch my favorite RLM moments, Jack, Josh or sometimes even Mike's old girlfriend who's name escapes me are always in there, and they always contribute something funny. That screech when Shoji Tabuchi appears for the first time, Jack's howling reaction when someone's head gets turned into a cake during Lo Blo, the entirety of Surviving Edged Weapons including Josh's dry narration of the casino scene where Jay is reduced to tears, Josh accidentally insulting Rich during Undefeatable, the list goes on. And those are only the ones my autism allows me to call up off the top of my head.

Yes, their greatest moment is the three main guys reacting to the end of Resident Evil: Afterlife and fucking losing it. And its still nice to get an episode where its just Mike, Jay and Rich. But even for their supporting cast whom I agree are faceless redshirts that exist just to make the banter more lively, its still a pretty good showing most of the time.

....all that said, we should still maybe keep an eye on Jack. That bit where he discusses the legal situation between him and RLM had a very uncharacteristic reaction from Rich that honestly worries me.
 
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....all that said, we should still maybe watch Jack. That bit where he discusses the legal situation between him and RLM had a very uncharacteristic reaction from Rich that honestly worries me.

Ever since Jack got his back up about people calling him out over making nice with Bob "gas the undesirables" Chipman, I've been dreading either a big falling out or the whole lot of them going full hardcore stupid.
 
Ever since Jack got his back up about people calling him out over making nice with Bob "gas the undesirables" Chipman, I've been dreading either a big falling out or the whole lot of them going full hardcore stupid.

Is this on video?

I'm not sure if its clipped. It got posted somewhere else in the thread. Let me see what I can do.


Regards to @BlueSpark who originally recalled and timestamped that video.

Maybe Rich is just reacting to a bad mission (I don't play the new XCOM, just the old shit and mods) and you really need to fullscreen it, but he does not look comfortable at all when Jack brings that up. Of course as the conversation progresses he lightens up but I swear you can feel that tension. Rich is a pretty expressive guy, so I found that moment to be very different from his usual personality.

Maybe just my paranoia acting up, I dunno. I feel a storm coming.
 
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On the other hand, that clip is nearly 3 years old, so if there is a storm coming it's been brewing for an awfully long time.

That honestly makes me even more paranoid about it. You know, like in Germany or some shit where they dig up a huge bomb dropped during WW2 while demolishing and old building and some dumbass hits it with a shovel by accident?

Though to be fair to that analogy, they're pretty good about disposing of those things safely up there. Maybe a better analogy would be landmines in Cambodia.
 
I feel like people tend to catastrophize or project a lot over the guys' politics. Aside from Rich's "vote for Trump" joke in that one Pre-Rec stream, Mike and Jay occasionally joking about Social Justice twitter mobs, jabs at Hollywood "representation" or Jack and Mike occasionally acknowledging that sexism exists, they're as apolitical as any movie review channel I can think of. I'm pretty sure no one cares as long as the guys a) keep it out of the content and b) Don't cause a complete shitfit on social media that drags the channel into it, they dgaf. Jack and Josh have been outspoken liberals for a long-ass time. If there was a "storm" involved, it would have happened by now. And it's not like they're unwilling to cut people loose if said person is not delivering or that person is too much baggage for whatever reason (see: Gilchrist, Max Landis, Jessi). And just because someone is occasionally friendly with another person doesn't mean they agree with or even are aware of all the stupid shit that person has said. Fuck, until a few months ago, I thought Chipman was just some annoying pseudo-feminist whiner on twitter.

I've read this thread in full since I joined this site and it seems every few months people here are certain that Josh or Jack are about to go full Spoony and there's going to be this horrible split. And it hasn't happened. Because the only people who care this much about random twitter activity of the internet almost-famous are idiots like us. I doubt Mike, Jay, or Rich gaf about Jack doing a video with Obscurus Lupa or Josh talking to Chipman on twitter once or twice because they're too busy keeping their business working and watching shit. Fuck, Jack has a family and everything. You honestly think he knows or cares all that much about Chipman besides the occasional twitter convo?

I know it's fun to gossip sometimes, but this particular line is getting old fast.

Anyways, as for opinions I disagree with when it comes to the guys, I sometimes feel like Jay totally checks out once he decides he doesn't want to like something (the Joker review is a prime example. There was another old HitB episode where he also missed a major plot point though I can't remember what it was) Mike can be too rigid and contrarian, I find his opinions on Jurassic World and the last two X Men movies mind-boggling, and Rich can come off as a bit of a snob sometimes. I often have mixed feelings on their takes on representation, because while I agree with their cynicism around the motivations of the people behind it, I do think they're a little too dismissive of how it affects audiences. Especially when it comes to stuff marketed to kids. I don't want to power level, so all I say is that I know from experience that media does have a real impact on how kids view the world. I do think people get the wrong idea on how that works most of the time, but it does still have an impact.

I also find Mike's standards on what he considers acceptable schlock vs unacceptable schlock to be pretty arbitrary. I don't see why, say, Jurassic World is fine and acceptable while, say, The Mummy isn't. And I hated both movies.

I'd like to see them do more stuff where they dive into the corporate bullshit surrounding major releases like they do in the Plinkett Ghostbusters review or the Jack and Jill videos though. I think they could really spice up Nerd Crew with more of it. There is only so many times you can mock Collider and Screen Junkies.
 
I'm not sure if its clipped. It got posted somewhere else in the thread. Let me see what I can do.


Regards to @BlueSpark who originally recalled and timestamped that video.

Maybe Rich is just reacting to a bad mission (I don't play the new XCOM, just the old shit and mods) and you really need to fullscreen it, but he does not look comfortable at all when Jack brings that up. Of course as the conversation progresses he lightens up but I swear you can feel that tension. Rich is a pretty expressive guy, so I found that moment to be very different from his usual personality.

Maybe just my paranoia acting up, I dunno. I feel a storm coming.
Oooh. My bones are aching!
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I don't know if we could ever get from Mike the hard and fast difference between schlock he likes and schlock he doesn't. It would be like asking someone why they like Taco Bell but not Taco Johns. You can't even identify all the barely edible ingredients and norovirises that make up the minute difference in taste.
 
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