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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
frozenrunner said:
I especially love how the filmmakers clearly didn't understand the point of a firearm mounted on a sliding track on the hero's wrist... even though they stole it from Taxi Driver and saw how it worked in that movie.
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I think that they tried to do that but they didn't know how to make it work properly so they ended up doing what we got.
 
So I finally listened to the Army of Darkness commentary, and ... uh ... wow. I've defended nearly everything these guys have ever produced, but Jesus, that was awful. No insight whatsoever beyond "it's not Evil Dead 2." Real disappointing.
 
Mola Ram said:
So I finally listened to the Army of Darkness commentary, and ... uh ... wow. I've defended nearly everything these guys have ever produced, but Jesus, that was awful. No insight whatsoever beyond "it's not Evil Dead 2." Real disappointing.
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I didn't hate it. I thought it was okay even though it's mostly them just reacting to it. Mike and Rich hating the segment with the Little Ashes and Evil Ash being created surprised me.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I didn't hate it. I thought it was okay even though it's mostly them just reacting to it. Mike and Rich hating the segment with the Little Ashes and Evil Ash being created surprised me.
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I dunno, I'm starting to think Re:View has taken the place of the commentary tracks. It felt like 90 minutes of vamping, and not especially good vamping.

The convention story was funny, but Mike has told most of that before.
 
Man vs persistent rat said:
I'm unsure whether they were joking or not when claiming to hate the black spine format, but it does give them a good format to show a huge amount of complete junk and not feel bad skipping them after watching a bit if they get boring.
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I'm looking forward to Junka 2. That was the best part of the whole episode.
 
FrickinFrackinFruckin said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=lb3hIEcRu34
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I'm normally apathetic to Josh, and have actually been positive on occasion, (I think he was good in the Superhero BOTW and Surviving Edged Weapons WOTW.)

He's peak Wizard here. Just an awful honking parrot for Jay's observations. The only redeeming part of the discussion is Jay talking about getting invested in the mother's perspective, and giving his opinion as a person who isn't religious. Jay plus Josh may be the worst RLM combo.
 
I liked their take on Exorcist. But I look forward to the Exorcist 3 video more because that sequel is deeply underrated.
 
That fucking clip from Exorcist: The Beginning with the terrible CGI.

It's depressing as hell to be reminded how much idiocy has infected American culture and for how long, to think that a movie as great as The Exorcist would be a huge, mainstream hit and then compare it with Exorcist: The Beginning 31 years later and how awful it is and to think we're now 15 years on from that.

Although to be fair, Exorcist: The Beginning was a box office bomb, right? But it's still a sign of how much worse Hollywood became from the 1970s to the 2000s.
 
It's gotten to the point where any non-awful horror film released nowadays gets pity points and universal acclaim regardless of whether it's a momentary trifle or something that could last. Horror fandom is just another area of geek culture that has been infiltrated and infantilised. Never mind, we have plenty of low-effort old films that somehow are infinitely better shot and produced than low-effort new ones.
 
Dom Cruise said:
That fucking clip from Exorcist: The Beginning with the terrible CGI.

It's depressing as hell to be reminded how much idiocy has infected American culture and for how long, to think that a movie as great as The Exorcist would be a huge, mainstream hit and then compare it with Exorcist: The Beginning 31 years later and how awful it is and to think we're now 15 years on from that.

Although to be fair, Exorcist: The Beginning was a box office bomb, right? But it's still a sign of how much worse Hollywood became from the 1970s to the 2000s.
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There's been a turn around in horror as of late but it lies with the Indies like Get Out and Hereditary/Midommsar.
 
stuffandthings said:
I'm normally apathetic to Josh, and have actually been positive on occasion, (I think he was good in the Superhero BOTW and Surviving Edged Weapons WOTW.)

He's peak Wizard here. Just an awful honking parrot for Jay's observations. The only redeeming part of the discussion is Jay talking about getting invested in the mother's perspective, and giving his opinion as a person who isn't religious. Jay plus Josh may be the worst RLM combo.
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Josh serves an important role as Jay's manservant, and backup for when Colin is unavailable.
 
BrunoMattei said:
I liked their take on Exorcist. But I look forward to the Exorcist 3 video more because that sequel is deeply underrated.
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Exorcist III has gained a little bit more attention in recent years, and that's a good thing because it is a pretty solid flick. I've described it to people as being "Significantly better than it has any right to be".

Dom Cruise said:
That fucking clip from Exorcist: The Beginning with the terrible CGI.

It's depressing as hell to be reminded how much idiocy has infected American culture and for how long, to think that a movie as great as The Exorcist would be a huge, mainstream hit and then compare it with Exorcist: The Beginning 31 years later and how awful it is and to think we're now 15 years on from that.

Although to be fair, Exorcist: The Beginning was a box office bomb, right? But it's still a sign of how much worse Hollywood became from the 1970s to the 2000s.
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I remember seeing Exorcist: The Beginning on HBO about a year after it came out and wanting to put my foot through the TV. Not only was doing a prequel to The Exorcist completely pointless, but it lacked any of the subtlety or realism that made the original work. This had hack ass horror movie written all over it from the word go and that's what we got. The "twist" reveal left me laughing my ass off. I wanted to be angry, but I was laughing so hard, I couldn't control myself.

Even more amazing is that there is another version of this prequel. "Dominion: Prequel to the Exorcist" is the original cut that the studio shelved because they had no faith in it. I remember reports were that it was "slower" and "boring" so the studio basically started from scratch, gave the new version more modern horror cliches, and that was how we got The Beginning.

But word had gotten out online about the other version and the prevailing opinion of the people I talked to at the time was "This is the good version! I bet it was closer to the original film". It got released to home video, I saw it, and yeah, it sucked. Its hard to say if it is better or worse than The Beginning as they suck in different ways. Beginning is stupid and insulting, but Dominion is boring and lifeless.

So yeah, they made two versions of a story that never needed to be told and they both sucked.
 
Mark Kermode has been pushing III in relation to the first film for a long time now, including advocating for the director's cut to be released, to include an example of a mainstream critic who was on the right side. It did have a horrible reputation until the 00s, however.
 
Man vs persistent rat said:
Mark Kermode has been pushing III in relation to the first film for a long time now, including advocating for the director's cut to be released, to include an example of a mainstream critic who was on the right side. It did have a horrible reputation until the 00s, however.
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I think its bad reputation was largely generated by the feeling of "Oh fuck! Why did they make another one of these?"

Exorcist was a cultural phenomenon when it came out. Exorcist II was laughed out of theaters and showed that maybe, JUST MAYBE, not everything needs a sequel (Personal opinion, I think Exorcist II is probably the single worst sequel I've ever seen).

Then over a decade removed from that, and III comes out, and I'm sure people just collectively turned their nose at it without giving it much of a chance. Hell, I never saw it until the movie was about 20 years old.
 
Same, to me at first it looked like the usual Hollywood "if doing something different doesn't work, make an overly-similar parody of the first", and only changed my mind when reading into who produced it and why. It reminds me a bit of the Rambo 4 situation, where it succeeded in course-correcting the series, and met with greater approval of the original writer, but to somebody unaware of this it's just a fourth film in a tired franchise. William Peter Blatty in general seems to have been very under-used by Hollywood based on the potential of his writing and direction.
 
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