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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
Mike seems to be mainlining snark on the ol' Twitter feed:

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I actually didn't mind Josh all that much anymore. Really he just looks gross and I guess he said some mean things about Trump but I don't give a shit.
 
FrickinFrackinFruckin said:
Is it because of the way Josh looks or talks? Is it a combination of the two? Please explain?
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Both actually. Yes, he is repellant physically, he is difficult to look at. Not to mention that he's gotten demonstrably fatter, uglier, and sloppier as the years have gone on -- a quick perusal of their library will make that clear.

Then again, I find Rich charming and endlessly entertaining while he's also a bridge troll.

But Josh always has this uncomfortable edge, shown clearly as he went after Mike for trolling with his BoW pick in the latest installment. He is shrill and there's a real contempt that oozes from a lot of his comments, particularly when others aren't agreeing with him. I can easily see a connection between his haughty attitude and his politics but I wouldn't care if he were a friggin Commie that lives on Mars if he were funny.

No, he just comes across as mean and he seems out of place when stacked next to the rest of the group. He appears to be without fun, for lack of a better phrase.

Plus, yes, he's ugly as fuck.
 
TchPiKinmup said:
Not to mention that he's gotten demonstrably fatter, uglier, and sloppier as the years have gone on
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I'll hard disagree with this one. Yeah he's not much of a looker but the beard is an objective improvement. Back when he had a baby face he looked like a creepy rapist man.

He's not the funniest but I still think he has some value. And as a plebittor once said:
"If BoTW was 4 Mikes, people would complain that Mike #3 isn't very funny "
 
Replicant Sasquatch said:
I'll hard disagree with this one. Yeah he's not much of a looker but the beard is an objective improvement. Back when he had a baby face he looked like a creepy rapist man.
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I can't argue against that -- he certainly did look rather like a NAMBLA member sans beard. Baby Huey-esque but with an R Bud Dwyer look.

But the hair just retreated from the top of his head and onto his face and, just like so many ugly guys in our current hirsute era, the ratty beard can't hide the wretch underneath. I think it's his shitty attitude is what bothers me the most and I normally wouldn't attack an ugly person's appearance so vociferously. But I just can't stomach the guy. And I was asked...

At least that woman and her obnoxious laugh haven't been back in a long, long while ... and I don't mean Max Landis.

Side question, what's their relationship with Freddie Williams? Does he live in the frozen wasteland as well? He seemed like an odd guest on a movie-based series but his appearances are always good. And he's a damn fine comic to boot!
 
Replicant Sasquatch said:
Nigger are you legit shitbashing on Jessie?
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I'm not sure what "shitbashing" is exactly but I wouldn't say I was regular-bashing her either. I found her laugh to be quite irritating. Though, in full honesty, I'm a gold star gay (so please, if you must use a slur, get right and call me a faggot) and find most of what women do to be annoying. I've only been into RLM for a little while now (about two years, I'd guess, I found my way in through the Science Man videos) so I see her as an early misstep that they later moved away from. The cutesy stuff with Mike was kind of annoying as well.

Now counter to Josh, she's an adorable girl, she didn't derail the mood of the room, and she didn't make me want to wash my hands just from seeing her face.
 
Josh is a buzzkill, always trying to steer the conversation back onto topic when much of the humor in the conversation is inextricably tied to the bizarre and humorous tangents and digressions. Jack doesn't do that.
 
As the comedy saying goes, "blue doesn't show up on blue." Every act needs a straight man.

Setting aside 1/2Bag, with BotW, Jay & Mike are weird enough and Rich Evans the butt monkey that the 4th person usually needs to be the the "straight man" (no offense to @TchPiKinmup, it's a comedy term) for the rest to play off of. The Canadians do well with this. Freddie is great in that he can tell when to play that role and when someone else is doing it and picks up the joke-slack.

Josh is the college-professor type. He would probably actually be funnier if he was even drier (think: Ben Stein) - wait! We don't have to. See: Len Kabinski [sp?] who does that role perfectly. Now Josh, he usually acts as a killjoy instead of a springboard.

Jack is the dad type and my personal favorite "straight" regular. He at least seems to get when playing up his roll makes the jokes funnier. I doubt he's ever been offended half the times he acts, he's just playing it up to get the laughs.

As proof of my thesis:

1) Why do so many people hate Max Landis' episode? Sure Max is annoying, but part of it is also that with him, EVERYBODY is trying to joke and there's nobody to play the counter-balance.

2) What's the one time I can remember an episode Josh has done? The dinosaur trio! (and not just because of Tammy & the TRex) Why does he almost work in that one? Because Jack is in there and doing the straight man, meaning Josh can joke more. Jack is superior because he can actually make Josh funnier.
 
It's amusing to see how many people hate Josh and Jack. I read some stuff on Josh's Twitter feed after Trump's win that pegged him as another laughable, mentally ill TDS sufferer, but I don't mind him on the show. Most Hollywood actors are lolcows IRL, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy their work. And as for Jack, hearing people call him "AIDS Moby" made me laugh, but he doesn't bother me either. I've been watching from the beginning though, so maybe I'm just used to them both.

Max Landis was kind of hard to stomach at first... but anyone from Hollywood and the surrounding area I think of as only partially responsible for their personality defects. How much of who we are is actually just due to who we grew up around? (I mean, even Bill Burr has traces of progressive faggotry creeping into his podcast, for God's sake. I never thought I would hear him treating "white privilege" like it was a legitimate concept, but he's got a half-black daughter now and lives in that area, so I guess here we are.) I appreciated his fandom and how cool he was with Mike and Jay hating most of his films. He's like the guy who enters the orbit of your group who you want to like, wouldn't wish harm on, but who just annoys people. Doesn't make him a bad dude. (Also, his short film at the end of that episode was great.)
 
Josh is waaay better when he's on re:View. He's too much of a turboautist to read the social cues on BOTW and keeps trying to seriously discuss some nonsense B movie they watched when everyone else is just dunking on it.
 
BlueSpark said:
I've enjoyed every commentary of theirs that I've watched. I think I've seen all of them except the Samurai Cop one.

IMO the best ones are Halloween, The Room and Jurassic Park.
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I'm a big fan of the Rogue One and Justice League ones entirely because of their inability to stay even remotely on-topic because of how non-engaged in the movie they are.

They're both like 90 minute versions of the first Star Wars Holiday Special video.
 
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