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I just want to let everyone know that at a work function earlier tonight I met a man named "Richard Evans". I spent the whole night waiting for the right opportunity. Right as he left I said "Say hi to Mike and Jay for me".

He suddenly had a pissed off look on his face implying that he has probably heard that one before.
 
Crank 2 is one of my favorite films of all time. I don't think there's a movie that's as 110% committed to being exactly what it is: as intentionally stupid of an action movie as possible, a real life Looney Toons cartoon. Neveldine/Taylor are unironically auteurs in the sense that they make movies in a style that is entirely unique to them. Basically stretching out the kinetic energy of a late 90s big beat/techno song to 90 minutes, with plenty of self-aware humor without being up its own ass. All their films follow this approach including Gamer and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. If you "get" what they're going for, they're fucking incredibly fun movies, but definitely not for everyone and that's what makes them great.

Also Jay going off on some lame jag at the end how the directors probably "grown up" and are above intentionally juvenile humor, that's just factually not true. Brian Taylor last film, Mom And Dad is about Nic Cage singing the Hanky Panky while trying to murder his children and try not to get murdered by his parents. It's kino.
 
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Dan of Steel said:
Crank 2 is one of my favorite films of all time. I don't think there's a movie that's as 110% committed to being exactly what it is: as intentionally stupid of an action movie as possible, a real life Looney Toons cartoon. Neveldine/Taylor are unironically auteurs in the sense that they make movies in a style that is entirely unique to them. Basically stretching out the kinetic energy of a late 90s big beat/techno song to 90 minutes, with plenty of self-aware humor without being up its own ass. All their films follow this approach including Gamer and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. If you "get" what they're going for, they're fucking incredibly fun movies, but definitely not for everyone and that's what makes them great.

Also Jay going off on same jag at the end how the directors probably "grown up" and are above intentionally juvenile humor, that's just factually not true. Brian Taylor last film, Mom And Dad is about Nic Cage singing the Hanky Panky while trying to murder his children and try not to get murdered by his parents. It's kino.
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"Sawzall saws all."
 
Mola Ram said:
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I don’t understood why Crank isn't more popular with a mainstream audiences that liked John Wick and the fast and Furious movies, A brief off topic rants aside: The depiction of the John Wick cinematic universe somewhat diminishes the grounded feel of the first film. The setting seems too expansive for a hidden secret society. Ballerina made the setting retarded with large European towns and small cities being populated with nothing but assassins including assassin families with assassin grade schoolers,
 
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Battlefield2142EU said:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KeeDVjRHwsQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=lVPnYI2Vzx4I understood why Crank isn't more popular with a mainstream audiences that liked John Wick and the fast and Furious movies, A brief off topic rants aside: The depiction of the John Wick cinematic universe somewhat diminishes the grounded feel of the first film. The setting seems too expansive for a hidden secret society. Ballerina made the setting retarded with large European towns and small cities being populated with nothing but assassins including assassin families with assassin grade schoolers,
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About John Wick, I still think part 2 is the best. It was just 'big enough' to start getting a bit over the top but still somewhat grounded as barely plausible. I wish 4 had him either end up as the leader of the whole assassin world or had gone totally batshit like the end of Chronicles of Riddick where he's the leader of the universe or something. I didn't bother with the Ballerina one.
 
I'm a Silly said:
I'll never understand why people do this -- it seems to be right up there with incurious fedora-tipping for me. Whoever said that the public has a short memory was right. No, Jay, you dumb nigger, all the degeneracy that people complain about right now has been complained about in every decade, just not necessarily by current-thing-identified spokesmen.
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BlueSpark said:
The constant see-sawing of talking about liking the films and then instinctively virtue-signaling about how wrong and bigoted they were is so pathetic.
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This is the result of decades of aggressive conditioning of the masses by the media. I think (North) Americans have no idea that this concern over depiction and "representation" of non-whites and non-straights isn't nearly as common abroad. Nobody in their right mind thinks that a single fictional character is some kind of representative of a whole ethnic or sexual deviant group.

There's also the problem of applying modern sensibilities to past events. I recently heard a white Canadian say something like "well, the 50s and the 60s may have been a great era for Americans, but think about the segregation!". As if he would've cared. Unfortunately, deconditioning is a long and arduous process. It would take months or even years of constant debates to make those people realize that they should focus on supporting people from their own ethnic group and stop clutching pearls when they see Al Jolson (real name Asa Yoelson, BTW) in blackface. Same goes for slavery. Fucking Abraham Lincoln wasn't some ardent defender of civil rights and he was THE PRESIDENT.
 
Hentai-Semitism said:
There's also the problem of applying modern sensibilities to past events. I recently heard a white Canadian say something like "well, the 50s and the 60s may have been a great era for Americans, but think about the segregation!". As if he would've cared. Unfortunately, deconditioning is a long and arduous process. It would take months or even years of constant debates to make those people realize that they should focus on supporting people from their own ethnic group and stop clutching pearls when they see Al Jolson (real name Asa Yoelson, BTW) in blackface. Same goes for slavery. Fucking Abraham Lincoln wasn't some ardent defender of civil rights and he was THE PRESIDENT.
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These people can and will never admit that South Africa with whites in charge in those 60s-80s times were the closest to Wakanda can ever get in Africa and now it's back to all shit.

This woke fake crying they do really stands out lately. They didn't do it before peak woke and seem to be the last hanging on to it now.
 
ddlloo said:
Far more egregious was Mike keeping in 10 minutes of his plot for Tranqed 3.
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Yeah. I think there was like one or two bits where it was funny in other videos they've done, and doing a bit about a Crank 3 with senior citizens could've been good given Mike's fascination with that demographic, but they either need to workshop that shit a bit instead of trying to ad lib it or stop with the sequel brainstorming.

It's also weird that they keep acting as though the bulk of their audience are Zoomers and they have to overexplain things as I would imagine their core demographic starts at like their mid 30s and would be familiar with most of what they are talking about.
 
mlanguishi said:
These people can and will never admit that South Africa with whites in charge in those 60s-80s times were the closest to Wakanda can ever get in Africa and now it's back to all shit.

This woke fake crying they do really stands out lately. They didn't do it before peak woke and seem to be the last hanging on to it now.
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I can give them the benefit of the doubt. I think you could reason with them in a private discussion because they don't bring those issues up all that often and it usually boils down to "it was the 90s". They probably would be agreeable to some extent on the topics of politics, race or sex.
 
I'm a Silly said:
I'll never understand why people do this -- it seems to be right up there with incurious fedora-tipping for me. Whoever said that the public has a short memory was right. No, Jay, you dumb nigger, all the degeneracy that people complain about right now has been complained about in every decade, just not necessarily by current-thing-identified spokesmen.
Sidenote, all the reformed edgelords who hold forth on the internet right now would be horrified to know that they had anything in common with Tipper Gore.
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It's a pendulum. The definition of what's culturally acceptable swings back and forth over time. With violence, things got more and more explicit until the '90s when Tipper Gore went on her crusade against video games, where things paused for a while, but now we're back to seeing explicit things again. With regard to sexuality, things got progressively raunchier until Janet Jackson whipped out her tit at that Super Bowl halftime show, and everybody got much more prudish, but now we're back to back to pop starlets like Sabrina Carpenter performing in lingerie. Racial and ethnic humor has more recently been deemed "inappropriate", but normal people are finally getting frustrated with the woke mob and starting to push back.

Eventually, attitudes to all of those topics will swing the opposite way. The Middle-Aged Kids of Milwaukee are old enough to have witnessed these pendulum swings themselves, but they act like zoomers and just latch onto whatever the latest thing is and pretend it's correct and permanent.


Well Intentioned said:
It's also weird that they keep acting as though the bulk of their audience are Zoomers and they have to overexplain things as I would imagine their core demographic starts at like their mid 30s and would be familiar with most of what they are talking about.
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I think it's an aspirational thing. Advertisers love the 18-35 demographic (for reasons I don't understand -- these young adults have the least disposable income out of anyone). The RLM core audience is definitely a generation older than that, so their attempts to make their content "zoomer friendly" may be a ploy to attract younger viewers and subsequently better AdSense payouts.
 
Dan of Steel said:
Crank 2 is one of my favorite films of all time. I don't think there's a movie that's as 110% committed to being exactly what it is: as intentionally stupid of an action movie as possible, a real life Looney Toons cartoon. Neveldine/Taylor are unironically auteurs in the sense that they make movies in a style that is entirely unique to them. Basically stretching out the kinetic energy of a late 90s big beat/techno song to 90 minutes, with plenty of self-aware humor without being up its own ass. All their films follow this approach including Gamer and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. If you "get" what they're going for, they're fucking incredibly fun movies, but definitely not for everyone and that's what makes them great.

Also Jay going off on some lame jag at the end how the directors probably "grown up" and are above intentionally juvenile humor, that's just factually not true. Brian Taylor last film, Mom And Dad is about Nic Cage singing the Hanky Panky while trying to murder his children and try not to get murdered by his parents. It's kino.
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The Crank films felt like GTA but in film. I feel that the problem with them is that they sort of came out at the wrong time. They would have worked a lot better in 1999 alongside films such as the Matrix or a few years later in the early 2010s when meme culture could have turned them into a real hit.

The mid to late 2000s was just not the right time for them.
 
I'm going to continue telling myself that the HiTB storyline about him fucking the volcano god means he is a 200 year old faggot.
 
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