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Favorite recurring character? (Select 4)

  • Jack / AIDSMobdy

    Votes: 257 24.0%

  • Josh / the Wizard

    Votes: 77 7.2%

  • Colin (Canadian #1)

    Votes: 460 42.9%

  • Jim (Canadian #2)

    Votes: 230 21.4%

  • Tim

    Votes: 386 36.0%

  • Len Kabasinski

    Votes: 208 19.4%

  • Freddie Williams

    Votes: 274 25.5%

  • Patton Oswalt

    Votes: 27 2.5%

  • Macaulay Culkin

    Votes: 541 50.4%

  • Max Landis

    Votes: 64 6.0%
  • Total voters
    1,073
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Flexo said:
And the only counter to it is that the comic industry seems hellbent on putting out stories that are even worse.

I mean... Paul. Fucking Paul almost makes us miss OMD.

But to quote SFDebris, "why is the character you put on children's underwear making a deal with the Devil?"
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mandatorylurk said:
One More Day is just horrible on every level, even by comic story standards because I remember I had that Amazing Spider-Man 400 issue. Aunt May dying and Ilyana Rasputin dying a year or two earlier in Uncanny X-Men were good, sad stories that felt permanent to me reading them as a kid.

But One More Day, a villain who Spider-Man doesn't deal with magically showing up to save the life of a woman who should have been healed by any of the smart super heroes or even mutants in the world, taking away the youth to save the old. I've seen this Quesada guy, and he's some Gen X fag yet that story reads like a Baby Boomer wanting to fuck over future generations. Apparently they tease Peter and MJ being back together all the time now but never actually do it because there's some rule they can't get back together, but everyone wants them back and some reboot of Ultimate Spider-Man has them happily married and it sold more than the regular Spider-Man issues. Then they wonder why they lose to manga at every turn.
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To defend One More Day (even though it shouldn't be), in the hands of a better creative team it could have easily been a good comic. It was the laziness and lack of effort that made it a bad a comic. Had the comic itself been good we could have then gotten some decent follow-ups and characterization for Peter, ending with him overcoming his deal with the devil and restoring what he lost with MJ. Unlike something like "Sins Past" it could have made for a good story if handled properly.

The problem with One More Day was never "Spider-man makes a deal with the Devil!" the way most people bitch about it. It was always more what it represented about the handling of Spider-Man as a property. Marvel will never allow Spider-Man to grow up and take the next step in the natural progression of his life. And whatever they do with him they will always do it half-assed. That has always been why One More Day has been so hated, and that is why fans have always been against the comic. One More Day represents everything wrong with the Spider-Man property and how people in charge treat it.
Mola Ram said:
The "adopted children" part is a great tell. "Oh, don't worry, true believers, Paul didn't actually pollute her womb with his poison seed!"
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Flexo said:
At least they learned SOME lesson from Sin's Past.
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If I had nickel for every time they cucked Peter Parker...
 
HowlingChasm said:
>I never stopped thinking of Macho Man
>pigtail girl is best girl
Rich has been redeemed in this series.
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The skellington girl was clearly the better choice. Although braids are like cheating. Give a 5/10 woman a pair of those and she magically become a 7.
 
McMitch said:
Every time Rich participates in these movie rankings, he makes it clear he used to read TvTropes way too much.
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TVTropes is an actual infohazard. As dumb as the site is, breaking down storytelling elements into identifiable categories is alarmingly seductive. It helps to remind yourself of what a TVTropes contributor probably looks like.
 
Apropos of nothing, I've been on a Ghostbusters kick lately and so I had their review of Ghostbusters 2016 on for background noise.

The number of times they say The Force Awakens was a good example of how to treat a franchise's history and fans with respect is, with the benefit of hindsight, hilariously appalling.
 
Mola Ram said:
Apropos of nothing, I've been on a Ghostbusters kick lately and so I had their review of Ghostbusters 2016 on for background noise.

The number of times they say The Force Awakens was a good example of how to treat a franchise's history and fans with respect is, with the benefit of hindsight, hilariously appalling.
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Listen to their Ghostbusters 2 commentary track on Bandcamp and they mostly criticize the movie for being almost exactly the same as the first one. When I saw TFA in a theater and realized it's about ANOTHER Death Star, I laughed out loud. Then it proceeded to destroy multiple planets in one go and I did this:

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Hentai-Semitism said:
Listen to their Ghostbusters 2 commentary track on Bandcamp and they mostly criticize the movie for being almost exactly the same as the first one. When I saw TFA in a theater and realized it's about ANOTHER Death Star, I laughed out loud. Then it proceeded to destroy multiple planets in one go and I did this:

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Yeah, they don't say it's any good. It's more along the lines of, "If you must milk a franchise, this is the way to do it."

I don't think it's really a failure on their part. Whatever you thought of Force Awakens, who in 2016 imagined Star Wars would follow the Lady Ghostbusters playbook, of all things?
 
Mola Ram said:
Yeah, they don't say it's any good. It's more along the lines of, "If you must milk a franchise, this is the way to do it."

I don't think it's really a failure on their part. Whatever you thought of Force Awakens, who in 2016 imagined Star Wars would follow the Lady Ghostbusters playbook, of all things?
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The Force Awakens didn't really give anyone a serious reason to hate it. At the time at least. It wasn't a great movie, but it also wasn't overly terrible. People were willing to give it credit because they were waiting to see where this new trilogy was going to lead us to.

Looking at how bad the follow up films were and how the whole franchise is in the toilet... you can look back now and more critically examine how poor TFA really was.
 
LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2 said:
The Force Awakens didn't really give anyone a serious reason to hate it. At the time at least. It wasn't a great movie, but it also wasn't overly terrible. People were willing to give it credit because they were waiting to see where this new trilogy was going to lead us to.

Looking at how bad the follow up films were and how the whole franchise is in the toilet... you can look back now and more critically examine how poor TFA really was.
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100%. And after Last Jedi and all the attempts at blaming the audience for bad product, you can see the hints of what was to come even in TFA. I had a buddy, even further right than I, who ranted about TFA displaying an anti-male agenda, most prominently in how Han Solo was emasculated and killed off. At the time I thought he was wildly overreacting; now I just think he was more perceptive than a lot of us.
 
Mola Ram said:
100%. And after Last Jedi and all the attempts at blaming the audience for bad product, you can see the hints of what was to come even in TFA. I had a buddy, even further right than I, who ranted about TFA displaying an anti-male agenda, most prominently in how Han Solo was emasculated and killed off. At the time I thought he was wildly overreacting; now I just think he was more perceptive than a lot of us.
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I remember Rolfe and Mike on AVGN in their initial reaction right after seeing it in the theater. James was pretty positive and Mike had a real sticking point on if Han went out like a Chump. James of course said he did it for 'muh kidz an sheeit' and Mike kinda rolled his eyes.

At start here:
 
Mola Ram said:
100%. And after Last Jedi and all the attempts at blaming the audience for bad product, you can see the hints of what was to come even in TFA. I had a buddy, even further right than I, who ranted about TFA displaying an anti-male agenda, most prominently in how Han Solo was emasculated and killed off. At the time I thought he was wildly overreacting; now I just think he was more perceptive than a lot of us.
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mlanguishi said:
I remember Rolfe and Mike on AVGN in their initial reaction right after seeing it in the theater. James was pretty positive and Mike had a real sticking point on if Han went out like a Chump. James of course said he did it for 'muh kidz an sheeit' and Mike kinda rolled his eyes.

At start here:
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he went out like a chump so nobody would want harrison ford to come back, probably at his request. and then he came back in the last one for two seconds anyway.
 
mlanguishi said:
I remember Rolfe and Mike on AVGN in their initial reaction right after seeing it in the theater. James was pretty positive and Mike had a real sticking point on if Han went out like a Chump. James of course said he did it for 'muh kidz an sheeit' and Mike kinda rolled his eyes.
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The killing Han thing always seemed like complete appeasement for Harrison Ford. In that he wouldn't hop onto the project unless they unequivocally killed off his character, because that's what he wanted back in the 80s.

TFA was fine if it was being used as a starting point for reestablishing the setting, introducing new characters, etc. But that's assuming competent people were at the helm and that there was a coherent plan sorted out, which we can see was absolutely not the case.

Whatever, I have the bits and pieces of Star Wars that I enjoy and just ignore Disney stuff and have gone back into reading and exploring other stuff instead.
 
I've disliked The Force Awakens from day one. I went in with an open mind, but once it became apparent that it was just a vapid remake of the original Star Wars, I knew it wasn't for me. And I decided right then and there that I wasn't gonna bother to watch any of the subsequent movies. Force Awakens is still the only Disney Star Wars that I've seen.
 
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