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[BlueSpark]

I wish they would just spoil the end of the film in the video - the people that don't want to be spoiled should just not watch the video. I hate it when Youtubers do this crap, what's the point in making a video on a something and then not fully talking about it for the benefit of retards too dumb to not watch a video about something they don't want to be spoiled on.

 

[eDove]

I wish they would just spoil the end of the film in the video - the people that don't want to be spoiled should just not watch the video. I hate it when Youtubers do this crap, what's the point in making a video on a something and then not fully talking about it for the benefit of retards too dumb to not watch a video about something they don't want to be spoiled on.

I went ahead and watched the film based on their recommendation. I was disappointed when I came back to the video and found they didn't discuss the "chilling" moment in-depth. I'll say they were right and that it was a skin-crawling, rewarding moment, but I expected them talk about it more.

 

[#lurker]

I went ahead and watched the film based on their recommendation. I was disappointed when I came back to the video and found they didn't discuss the "chilling" moment in-depth. I'll say they were right and that it was a skin-crawling, rewarding moment, but I expected them talk about it more.

Spoiler: Ending

I feel like the "chilling moment" comes from the realization that it was the future ghost of the yet-to-be-dead son all along. Except the movie choreographs this when the psychic comes to the house to explain time-traveling ghosts. I didn't find it very rewarding, more anticlimactic than anything.

 

[Alabaster Disaster]

I wish they would just spoil the end of the film in the video - the people that don't want to be spoiled should just not watch the video. I hate it when Youtubers do this crap, what's the point in making a video on a something and then not fully talking about it for the benefit of retards too dumb to not watch a video about something they don't want to be spoiled on.

This annoyed me so much I paused the video halfway through to watch it on a streaming site. I liked it but I agree with those saying it was honestly predictable and the setup was a little ham-fisted in ways. Definitely lots of "boo haunted house" movie cliches got pulled from the toolbox to get us there.

Spoiler: Actual, factual, for-real spoilers for Presence

The brother is the ghost. Psychic lady mentions how ghosts don't experience time the same as us which is used to excuse this. The brother's popular friend from school starts banging the sister and eventually drugs her and tries to kill her by suffocating her with cellophane, and reveals this is how her two friends died even though everyone assumes they overdosed. Ghost brother is unsuccessful in waking his sister so he runs downstairs where his living self (also drugged by popular kid) is passed out on the couch and manages to wake himself up. Living brother runs upstairs, grabs popular kid, and they both crash through the upstairs window and die during the scuffle. In the last scene he gets mom's attention and leads her over to the old silver mirror where she sees him in the reflection and breaks down crying. Ghost-brother POV camera finally steps outside the house for the first time and starts ascending.

It's an interesting watch pretty much for the reasons Jay talks about but there's no way to explain the tweest without it sounding like a shitpost. No chills for me. Honestly I thought some of the tricks it attempted were done way better in Haunting of Hill House, and as much as they love Mike Flanagan I'm shocked they didn't bring him up or make any comparisons at all.

 

[fake farts]

I watch a lot of movies in the theater and there is a serious problem with patrons who behave as if they're in their living room. Theaters put up signs and make everyone watch videos telling them to put their phones away and shut the fuck up, and none of it sticks. Asking people to stop doesn't work, either, and I no longer bother trying.

The closest theater to me is an Alamo Drafthouse, which is basically the epitome of Mike's complaint about pizzerias in a theater and serving food. And yet it's probably the quietest theater I go to. I think the audience clientele for it is different than other places, and yeah they tend to be closer to middle aged. But whenever I go (which admittedly isn't often), the audience is actually well-behaved. You do have to smell food though, which can be a turn off to someone, I'm sure.

Shame it's in an area where when the sun goes down the usual suspects start crawling around the parking lot asking for money.

 

[Tepes Thot]

The movie doesn’t interest me, so I can’t comment on its quality.

BUT

That part where they clipped in that liquid-brained Hollywood freak crying about theaters…
“Remember where you fell in love with movies!?!??”
All I could think was “Remember when Hollywood could stop raping long enough to make a decent movie to fall in love with?”.

It’s like being married to someone who becomes a heroin addict, and all that comes with that, and them making some retarded presentation about why can’t you just let things go back to the good ol’ days in your marriage.

 

[eDove]

Spoiler: Ending

I feel like the "chilling moment" comes from the realization that it was the future ghost of the yet-to-be-dead son all along. Except the movie choreographs this when the psychic comes to the house to explain time-traveling ghosts. I didn't find it very rewarding, more anticlimactic than anything.

I agree with you. For me, the chilling factor was purely visual. It wasn't so much the revelation but the eerie way it was done. The only film I can think of that had the same effect was Don't Look Now. Like Presence, it was more of a drama than a horror film apart from its freaky ending.

 

[Dr. God]

Spoiler: Presence ending Spoilers

The ending was hyped up as being "chilling" and "impactful" and "unforgettable" but I think the movie really pulled its punches at the end.
They set up the brother as being a psychopath and the mom as a #boymom who keeps defending the son, and she was involved in some shady shit at work. I thought the ending was going to be that the son got the fentanyl from the mom's work, and she helped him in covering it up. This would have made both the mother and son complicit in the murders and would have made the mother somewhat responsible for the son's death. Much more impactful and disturbing of an ending, IMO
The camera work was excellent though. I'm glad I watched it.

I like RLM is using their platform to highlight underrated and underseen movies like Presence and King Tide. I've been happy with their recommendations and I'd like it if the video trend continued. I do agree that they should have talked more about the spoilers.

 

[Maniacal Foreigner]

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Finally gonna do a re:View of this thing.

I can't wait to hear how they butcher the director's name.

 

[Mola Ram]

I can't wait to hear how they butcher the director's name.

I doubt they will; this is not a Mike or Rich sort of movie. It is absolutely a Jay sort of movie, and he's usually pretty good about getting obscure and foreign directors' names right. It's also a famous film, at least among the kinds of people who enjoy artsy horrorshows featuring tentacle sex.

 

[Mussolini’s Merkin]

I doubt they will; this is not a Mike or Rich sort of movie. It is absolutely a Jay sort of movie, and he's usually pretty good about getting obscure and foreign directors' names right. It's also a famous film, at least among the kinds of people who enjoy artsy horrorshows featuring tentacle sex.

They've mentioned Possession before, during the Event Horizon Re:View. They were discussing how good Sam Neill was and Possession did come up, I believe both Mike and Jay had seen it before, so who knows, maybe no Beard Fat.

 

[Mola Ram]

They've mentioned Possession before, during the Event Horizon Re:View. They were discussing how good Sam Neill was and Possession did come up, I believe both Mike and Jay had seen it before, so who knows, maybe no Beard Fat.

I'll happily take bad jokes over the director's name if it means no Beardfat.

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

I agree with you. For me, the chilling factor was purely visual. It wasn't so much the revelation but the eerie way it was done. The only film I can think of that had the same effect was Don't Look Now. Like Presence, it was more of a drama than a horror film apart from its freaky ending.

It's an interesting watch pretty much for the reasons Jay talks about but there's no way to explain the tweest without it sounding like a shitpost. No chills for me. Honestly I thought some of the tricks it attempted were done way better in Haunting of Hill House, and as much as they love Mike Flanagan I'm shocked they didn't bring him up or make any comparisons at all.

Jay was definitely over-inflating the quality of the ending. The second the film mentioned the whole time aspect with the haunting I knew it was going to have some bigger impact with the plot. It doesn't even really make sense as a concept, the twist involved with other ghost movies such as The Sixth Sense makes sense from a logical perspective. It feels like Soderbergh just wanted to have a unique twist compared to other haunted house movies and this was what he eventually reached as an idea.

 

[I'm a Silly]

The movie doesn’t interest me, so I can’t comment on its quality.

BUT

That part where they clipped in that liquid-brained Hollywood freak crying about theaters…
“Remember where you fell in love with movies!?!??”
All I could think was “Remember when Hollywood could stop raping long enough to make a decent movie to fall in love with?”.

It’s like being married to someone who becomes a heroin addict, and all that comes with that, and them making some retarded presentation about why can’t you just let things go back to the good ol’ days in your marriage.

Sean Baker is the perfect choice to use as an example here because he made defacto, etymological pornography. Every detail I've learned about him is either a case of two bad things that cancel each other out or a net negative.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

So what I'm getting is the twist is ghosts aren't bound by time and the ghost haunting them was their own? cause I've seen a youtube horror video pull that before, so I'm glad I didn't bother to go watch this.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Spoiler: Ending

I feel like the "chilling moment" comes from the realization that it was the future ghost of the yet-to-be-dead son all along. Except the movie choreographs this when the psychic comes to the house to explain time-traveling ghosts. I didn't find it very rewarding, more anticlimactic than anything.

Didn't Lake Mungo do something similar? I also think Insidious did it better.

 

[BlueSpark]

So what I'm getting is the twist is ghosts aren't bound by time and the ghost haunting them was their own? cause I've seen a youtube horror video pull that before, so I'm glad I didn't bother to go watch this.

It sounds like it doesn't make sense, either: the ghost should know about the killer boyfriend, why would it not prevent the brother (itself) from drinking the spiked drink, or just attack the boyfriend directly?
It doesn't surprise me that Mike and Jay liked it though, they're dimwits that love to feel smarter than they are and this film sounds right up their alley.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

It sounds like it doesn't make sense, either: the ghost should know about the killer boyfriend, why would it not prevent the brother (itself) from drinking the spiked drink, or just attack the boyfriend directly?

I saw the movie myself and they do explain the spirit has no idea what it is and has a scrambled perspective of time with a vague sense of lingering attachments.

There's also implications that it can't move around living people because the spirit seeing the boyfriend try to kill the girl immediately goes to wake the brother up by putting in high pitched frequencies to get him to do something

But honestly wished the RLM review talked more about the movie rather than another soliloquy about movie theaters since it feels like Mike has had this discussion so many times about movie theaters that it is the same thing

"Some movies are fine to see in the theater"

"The food they have in the theater distracts from the movie"

"Other theater goers suck"

"Why go to theater when streaming"

 

[King Dead]

But honestly wished the RLM review talked more about the movie rather than another soliloquy about movie theaters since it feels like Mike has had this discussion so many times about movie theaters that it is the same thing

"Some movies are fine to see in the theater"

"The food they have in the theater distracts from the movie"

"Other theater goers suck"

"Why go to theater when streaming"

I've said it before, I'll say it again: they probably have a shitty experience because they live in Milwaukee, and cities are not known for the most courteous people. I could probably count the number of bad experiences I've had in a theater on one hand, and even then I'm struggling to think of any that truly stand out as particularly egregious. And yet every time people get baffled by how much they bitch about the theatergoing experience in the comments, they still make remarks about how nobody understands why they're complaining so much.

 

[I'm a Silly]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: they probably have a shitty experience because they live in Milwaukee, and cities are not known for the most courteous people. I could probably count the number of bad experiences I've had in a theater on one hand, and even then I'm struggling to think of any that truly stand out as particularly egregious. And yet every time people get baffled by how much they bitch about the theatergoing experience in the comments, they still make remarks about how nobody understands why they're complaining so much.

RLM will never say why these things are true. The 2nd comment link below has links within on the demographics, thumbnails for info at a glance:

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